Rear mounted turbo kit

Brazilbro · 03-31-2009, 08:42 PM

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...ilbro/sts4.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...ilbro/sts1.jpg

what do you guys think of something like this for the 370?

RCZ · 03-31-2009, 08:55 PM

Loooong piping, intake near the ground and under the car where there is TONS of dirt and debris. There are some setups like that for GTO's and stuff, but it wouldn't be my first choice for the Z. There are more drawbacks than benefits...lots more.

Lug · 04-01-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Loooong piping, intake near the ground and under the car where there is TONS of dirt and debris. There are some setups like that for GTO's and stuff, but it wouldn't be my first choice for the Z. There are more drawbacks than benefits...lots more.

STS claims long piping actually adds to charge cooling. The problem is since you no longer have a muffler, you are kind of stuck with the sound it has plus the debris issue you've pointed out.
website...
Squires Turbo Systems - Turbocharged Innovation!
Thier dyno of a 350Z

To me, the best thing is under hood overcrowding/heat issues are avoided. I'd be terrified to drive though a puddle though!

BanningZ · 04-01-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

STS claims long piping actually adds to charge cooling. The problem is since you no longer have a muffler, you are kind of stuck with the sound it has plus the debris issue you've pointed out.
website...
To me, the best thing is under hood overcrowding/heat issues are avoided. I'd be terrified to drive though a puddle though!

I would imagine that would be super LOUD!

Wouldn't driving through a puddle make the turbo explode/crack, because of the heat?

Lug · 04-01-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ

I would imagine that would be super LOUD!

Wouldn't driving through a puddle make the turbo explode/crack, because of the heat?

Corvette with the STS system

RCZ · 04-01-2009, 12:32 PM

That sounds great tho haha.

Crash · 04-01-2009, 12:46 PM

Squires kits are over priced and garbage to boot. The idea is good if you can pull it off, but you can't drive when it rains. The long piping actually makes it so you don't need an intercooler. The sound isn't that loud. Turbos actually act like a muffler, which is why most turbo cars come with resonators instead of mufflers.

I wouldn't buy an STS product. You can build them yourself with better parts for half the price almost. Back in the days when STS gained a lot of popularity with them, nobody knew that they weren't that great, but they definitely make a lot of power with them. However, again, for the money they're really not worth it.

2fast4thelaw · 04-05-2009, 10:52 AM

Can you say Turbo Lag?? With that long of piping it would take for ever for that turbo to spool!

There is a specific reason why everyone mounts turbos right off the exhaust manifold/headers.

Crash · 04-05-2009, 09:32 PM

Actually, the lag really isn't as bad as you'd think. It really depends on the turbo(s) size. But you can get 500WHP from turbos without a lot of lag.

Brazilbro · 04-06-2009, 02:36 AM

and u get some weight in the back where you need it.. though i would have to build some kinda shielding to protect from water and whatnot

Crash · 04-07-2009, 04:38 AM

Yeah, there are a few kits that put the air filter further up. My biggest worry was always bottoming out and losing some expensive turbos! LOL

2fast4thelaw · 04-07-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Crash

Actually, the lag really isn't as bad as you'd think. It really depends on the turbo(s) size. But you can get 500WHP from turbos without a lot of lag.

I checked out the website. Its interesting but I can see all kinds of potential problems with all that piping. And like someone said, where those turbos are located on most of these cars the rear tire is going to kick up water and mudd into the turbos. I dont see that these turbos are water cooled which really throws up a red flag to me.

rackley · 04-08-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazilbro

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...ilbro/sts4.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...ilbro/sts1.jpg

what do you guys think of something like this for the 370?

After seeing those photos I thought this was some kind of joke. That looks like a seriously hillbilly rigged setup right there.. Like someone had a turbo lying around and lots of piping and said "hey, let's mount the turbo where it's as far as possible from the engine and suck air from the pavement and see what happens!" after having way too many natty lights.

nogoodname · 04-08-2009, 10:04 PM

okay..........that is the weirdest thing i have seen.......lol

"i got turbos in the rear..".......lol.........drive through a puddle and you got a cloud behind you....ha

Crash · 04-09-2009, 03:40 AM

They don't need to be water cooled, actually. Some turbos are oil cooled to start, but because they're not located under the hood where heat builds up and it's hard to escape, they stay cooler. The air in the back of the car is much cooler. The kits all use a separate oil pump, oil cooler, and (I believe) reservoir. So the turbos do stay cool. However, I have heard that the STS oil pumps and what not are complete junk. (Just what I've heard) A self built kit would put that on you, though, so you could make a better oiling system.

BTW, I haven't heard of anyone that's had water, mud, etc problems.

03-31-2009, 08:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 848	Rear mounted turbo kit http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...ilbro/sts4.jpg http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...ilbro/sts1.jpg what do you guys think of something like this for the 370?

04-01-2009, 12:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	Squires kits are over priced and garbage to boot. The idea is good if you can pull it off, but you can't drive when it rains. The long piping actually makes it so you don't need an intercooler. The sound isn't that loud. Turbos actually act like a muffler, which is why most turbo cars come with resonators instead of mufflers. I wouldn't buy an STS product. You can build them yourself with better parts for half the price almost. Back in the days when STS gained a lot of popularity with them, nobody knew that they weren't that great, but they definitely make a lot of power with them. However, again, for the money they're really not worth it. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

04-05-2009, 09:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	Actually, the lag really isn't as bad as you'd think. It really depends on the turbo(s) size. But you can get 500WHP from turbos without a lot of lag. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

04-07-2009, 04:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	Yeah, there are a few kits that put the air filter further up. My biggest worry was always bottoming out and losing some expensive turbos! LOL __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

04-09-2009, 03:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	They don't need to be water cooled, actually. Some turbos are oil cooled to start, but because they're not located under the hood where heat builds up and it's hard to escape, they stay cooler. The air in the back of the car is much cooler. The kits all use a separate oil pump, oil cooler, and (I believe) reservoir. So the turbos do stay cool. However, I have heard that the STS oil pumps and what not are complete junk. (Just what I've heard) A self built kit would put that on you, though, so you could make a better oiling system. BTW, I haven't heard of anyone that's had water, mud, etc problems. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

03-31-2009, 08:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1118	Loooong piping, intake near the ground and under the car where there is TONS of dirt and debris. There are some setups like that for GTO's and stuff, but it wouldn't be my first choice for the Z. There are more drawbacks than benefits...lots more.

04-01-2009, 12:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1118	That sounds great tho haha.

04-05-2009, 10:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
2fast4thelaw Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Denver Co Age: 49 Posts: 403 Drives: 09 370Z Sport/MT6 Rep Power: 16	Can you say Turbo Lag?? With that long of piping it would take for ever for that turbo to spool! There is a specific reason why everyone mounts turbos right off the exhaust manifold/headers.

04-06-2009, 02:36 AM	#10 (permalink)
Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 848	and u get some weight in the back where you need it.. though i would have to build some kinda shielding to protect from water and whatnot

04-08-2009, 10:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1764	okay..........that is the weirdest thing i have seen.......lol "i got turbos in the rear..".......lol.........drive through a puddle and you got a cloud behind you....ha

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