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Old 06-28-2009, 04:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Two corrections to be made:

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LS1 corvettes, camaros and firebirds get between 32 and 36 MPG and average around 20-25 city. That's 5.7 Liters and yet the 370z gets a lot less economy with 2 less liters. Sometimes the size of the engine has nothing to do with the quantity of fuel it burns. In addition, those motors make a LOT more power and torque NA than is at all possible for the VQ37. Boost either of them and the result is the same as NA; the LS1 will make more power and get better economy than the VQ37.

To say that smaller boosted engines are better for economy is making a bold accusation that all larger motors are inefficient and is quite an ignorant remark. (No offense)

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Also, the saying "There's no replacement for displacement" is a saying on the race track. NOBODY on the track cares how much economy they get. If it was a Honda motor tech that were to make a saying, it'd be something like "There's no replacement for direct sequential electronic fuel injection" or something that doesn't really flow well.
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Two corrections to be made:

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LS1 corvettes, camaros and firebirds get between 32 and 36 MPG and average around 20-25 city. That's 5.7 Liters and yet the 370z gets a lot less economy with 2 less liters. Sometimes the size of the engine has nothing to do with the quantity of fuel it burns.
Whoa, I call BS on whomever wrote that statement!

I dont know where you get your fuel economy numbers but I have owned both a Corvette and Trans-Am and they never got any where near this fuel economy! I was lucky to get 18 in town and maybe 24 on the hi-way if I kept my foot out of it.

Both those cars were fast in a straight line but as far as handling, the Z is completely in an whole other class. Both the Vette and the Trans Am drove like boats in comparison! Raw torque is the only thing these cars have on the Z.

The old saying " Theres no replacement for displacement" is a very out dated term that no longer applies in our day in age.
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Whoa, I call BS on whomever wrote that statement!

I dont know where you get your fuel economy numbers but I have owned both a Corvette and Trans-Am and they never got any where near this fuel economy! I was lucky to get 18 in town and maybe 24 on the hi-way if I kept my foot out of it.

Both those cars were fast in a straight line but as far as handling, the Z is completely in an whole other class. Both the Vette and the Trans Am drove like boats in comparison! Raw torque is the only thing these cars have on the Z.

The old saying " Theres no replacement for displacement" is a very out dated term that no longer applies in our day in age.
Something like that. I believe that an overall engine design and build, including displacement > just displacement alone.
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Both those cars were fast in a straight line but as far as handling, the Z is completely in an whole other class. Both the Vette and the Trans Am drove like boats in comparison! Raw torque is the only thing these cars have on the Z.
Who said anything about handling?

If we're going to argue that, I have my rebuttal, of course. The F-Bodies certainly were straight line cars. They handle like crap without a lot of work. My T/A wasn't all that great for turning at all. Still better than Mustangs by far, but no canyon car!

However, the C5 Corvettes (especially the Z06) handle way better than the Z in my opinion. I really don't believe you had a C5 Corvette. You may have had a Corvette, but it wasn't a 97 or newer if yours didn't handle well. The C4 Vettes handled OK, but I'd agree the Zs handle better. But the C5's were meant to be tracked straight from the factory. The handling and braking on the Z06 was top-notch. The C6 Z06 has even better handling and is arguably one of the best track cars in production.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....ber=1&preview= <-- Better skidpad results from the first generation c5 z06. Bests the 370z.
http://www.chevy-wiki.com/wiki/Chevr...orvette_C5_Z06 <-- 1.03G on the skid-pad.
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Who said anything about handling?

However, the C5 Corvettes (especially the Z06) handle way better than the Z in my opinion. I really don't believe you had a C5 Corvette. You may have had a Corvette, but it wasn't a 97 or newer if yours didn't handle well. The C4 Vettes handled OK, but I'd agree the Zs handle better. But the C5's were meant to be tracked straight from the factory. The handling and braking on the Z06 was top-notch. The C6 Z06 has even better handling and is arguably one of the best track cars in production.
I made the unfortunate mistake of buying a 2002 C5 corvette with an automatic trans. It was the worse car I ever owned! The front nose is so long that the car always felt awkward and nose heavy to me. I kept it one year and sold it off. It was plagued with electrical problems and rattled like a Model T.

I think its great that you love the vette, you can have them! I can't knock a Z06 as I have never driven one, I would however expect much from it as it carries a very heavy price tag!

Bottom line, I love my 370Z and I feel its by far the best performing, best handling, and best looking car out there for the money. If you dont agree, than I really question why you are even here on this site! There are many Corvette forums out there for all you vette nut huggers!
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LS1 corvettes, camaros and firebirds get between 32 and 36 MPG and average around 20-25 city. That's 5.7 Liters and yet the 370z gets a lot less economy with 2 less liters. Sometimes the size of the engine has nothing to do with the quantity of fuel it burns. In addition, those motors make a LOT more power and torque NA than is at all possible for the VQ37. Boost either of them and the result is the same as NA; the LS1 will make more power and get better economy than the VQ37.


LS1 corvette - 19 / 28 for manual and 18 / 26 for auto

2009 Base Vette - 16/26

370Z 18/26 for both manual and auto


Not a lot of difference in fuel mileage, so that aurgument is kind of moot. And who buys a sports car for the gas mileage anyway?

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