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Flyboy 12-27-2010 12:36 PM

Will a SC 370Z be able to compete with a stock C6 Z06
 
I'm wanting to Go GTM SC, but for the money I would like to know how my car would stack against a C6 Z06. I know a modded Z06 would rape all, but what about a stock C6 Z06. does a SC 370z have a chance?

This question has me on the line as to whether or not i should go SC.

-James

daisuke149 12-27-2010 12:42 PM

you should be able to hang with it vs a stock z06. while they are 505hp they end up only putting down around 400 to the wheels. So a GTM SC kit would put you there if not a lil higher. their lighter + more torques too but their geared longer too. so hrmm just comes down to who's driving i'd think based on that.

zcar_dad 12-27-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 867843)
I'm wanting to Go GTM SC, but for the money I would like to know how my car would stack against a C6 Z06. I know a modded Z06 would rape all, but what about a stock C6 Z06. does a SC 370z have a chance?

This question has me on the line as to whether or not i should go SC.

-James

Why are you only concerned about a Z06? If you like the 370 - get it, put on what you want. Why do so many people on this site worry about what OTHER people think?

Nitrouz 12-27-2010 12:46 PM

^really? I thought I read somewhere that they're very underrated and some puts down 480 - 500rwhp stock on a Dynojet. Not sure if I remember correctly though. But they sure are fast.

Even at the same whp level, you have to keep in mind that in a Z, you shift more than in a Z06. Gearing in the Z06 is A LOT taller.

theDreamer 12-27-2010 12:50 PM

A SC 370z can beat a C5 Z06, but a C6 Z06 would edge out the 370z SC a bit.
Power they will end up competing almost together, but the Z06 weights less than a 370z stock and then you add in the weight of a SC.

RCZ 12-27-2010 12:54 PM

z06

Flyboy 12-27-2010 01:13 PM

curb weight
 
Z06 = 3175
370 = 3250

Not a huge difference there.

I love my Z and I could have bought a z06 for a little more than I payed for my Z, so that's not the issue..

I'm just wondering how close they would be running head up.

96bigbody 12-27-2010 01:55 PM

No

wishihadnav 12-27-2010 03:17 PM

id probably say no as well..too much torque in the vette.

Brazilbro 12-27-2010 03:38 PM

Winner go's to the one with better tires :eekdance:

Zuppy51 12-27-2010 03:49 PM

NO can't compete.
My co-worker has a 2009 Z06. What an animal. It's amazing. No way can the z compete, it would have to be on a big diet, with major tire and suspension mods.

Suspension, the Z06 puts the power down and powers out of corners better. In a straight line the gearing is much longer, that car just pulls and pulls.

wishihadnav 12-27-2010 03:55 PM

maybe i should go race one when i get my car back and put an end to this:icon17:

G37sHKS 12-27-2010 04:05 PM

I'm sorry but no you cant complete with A stock C6 Z06

Edit: here a dyno of z06 b4 and after tune, no bolts on

http://diablosportpredatortuner.file...t-predator.jpg

destinyZ 12-27-2010 04:09 PM

You would lose. On the strip, you will begin to lose rite after 1st. our 6spd would PROBABLY make up for the TQ/HP difference at the launch but other then that I would guess you see nothing but there a**. At a road course you may be able to hang a little unless the z06 driver knows what he is doing.

Do what you want to do, if you want to SC/TT then go ahead and do it. Although SC expansion isnt as large as TT, you can still expand some. LSD, 4.08, flywheel, etc...there are plenty of supporting mods that are not really all that much money. Shoot, if you mainly participate at the strip i say :

SC
2 lightwieght wheels (volk ce28n =)
LSD (probably OS Giken)
nitto 555R (on the seperate wheels, or your choice of drag radials).

Don't get discouraged though, its a build and it dosent happen over night :)

Mike 12-27-2010 04:23 PM

yep, no way it can keep up. Its not just weight and power, but low end torque and gearing too.

Kastley85891 12-27-2010 04:26 PM

Z06 - even if you are lucky enough to go against a stock one will walk you.

wishihadnav 12-27-2010 04:33 PM

yeah i agree...if you plan on racing z06's you'd be better off with a TT setup...problem solved..haha

Kastley85891 12-27-2010 04:41 PM

^^ TT and decent traction control... or get a GTR, watch the Z06 sliding in your mirror lol

destinyZ 12-27-2010 04:48 PM

^^^agreed...you would win everyday with 10-11PSI but then you may want to get a 6puck (or just use the stock till it goes out) and may as well do the flywheel at the same time to knock it out...I believe ppl are getting 550 WHP with this setup(ish) and 400somthing TQ

Trade in or sell the Z get a Z06 and flash it with HFC (if they have them for the Z06) =p

daisuke149 12-27-2010 04:50 PM

personal opinion though here..

if people got the 370z because they wanted a super fast straight line car.. then they got the wrong car to begin with.

Now if this is just a curiosity on the side and not a big deal to the OP then hey thats cool.

destinyZ 12-27-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kastley85891 (Post 868209)
^^ TT and decent traction control... or get a GTR, watch the Z06 sliding in your mirror lol

that would be funny to watch. GTR on a course would destroy a Z06.

Nikkolai 12-27-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 868226)
personal opinion though here..

if people got the 370z because they wanted a super fast straight line car.. then they got the wrong car to begin with.

Now if this is just a curiosity on the side and not a big deal to the OP then hey thats cool.

I agree with you 100% on that one. The Z was never meant to be a 1/4 car. I remember reading a magazine when they put the Z on a super diet and it was beating GT3's stock. Then they twin turbocharged it but it was still not enough against a modified GTR. It was a second off from the GTR's lap times.

destinyZ 12-27-2010 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 868226)
personal opinion though here..

if people got the 370z because they wanted a super fast straight line car.. then they got the wrong car to begin with.

Now if this is just a curiosity on the side and not a big deal to the OP then hey thats cool.

I somewhat agree but what ppl fail to look at is the potential of a car and only see what it can do in stock form. The Z has AMAZING potential but ppl want a fast car now but that is no fun. Im not saying that daisuke dosent like the his car, just saying it has alot of potential.

If you want a fast drag car without putting your life into it then get the new 5.0, Z06, R8 (V8 or bigger) etc...

destinyZ 12-27-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikkolai (Post 868230)
I agree with you 100% on that one. The Z was never meant to be a 1/4 car. I remember reading a magazine when they put the Z on a super diet and it was beating GT3's stock. Then they twin turbocharged it but it was still not enough against a modified GTR. It was a second off from the GTR's lap times.

So they modified a stock TT car and only TT the Z?...was the z on the stock psi or did they get a boost controller? You said lap times so im guessing this was a course and not a drag strip.

The GTR is better then the Z even TT'd with the Z on the stock boost...the GTR should win all day against the Z on a course and a course will show more then just the cars HP. driver is more involved, suspension and braking play a bigger part, weight distribution along with the drivetrain, camber, etc....

wishihadnav 12-27-2010 05:20 PM

this thread needs to be locked...now..lol

wishihadnav 12-27-2010 05:20 PM

paging AK..haha

destinyZ 12-27-2010 05:27 PM

little off subject :)

efuseakay 12-27-2010 06:16 PM

OP, honestly, that's the wrong way of looking at things no matter what car you have... No matter what you do yo it, there will always be someone faster.

Nikkolai 12-27-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by destinyZ (Post 868239)
So they modified a stock TT car and only TT the Z?...was the z on the stock psi or did they get a boost controller? You said lap times so im guessing this was a course and not a drag strip.

The GTR is better then the Z even TT'd with the Z on the stock boost...the GTR should win all day against the Z on a course and a course will show more then just the cars HP. driver is more involved, suspension and braking play a bigger part, weight distribution along with the drivetrain, camber, etc....

Darn, I do not think I bought the magazine but I will have to look. I believe it was Modified Mag and there was a white 370Z and a white GTR on the cover. Yes, it was on a road course. They were trying to see if the Z can compare to super car status of the GTR. From what I can remember, the Z was around 500whp and weighed in at 2700lbs. The GTR had around 600+whp.

To me, I am not really into drag racing. Everyone can drive a straight line...it's all about how much money you put into it. After having autocrossed for the first time, I found out I suck at driving...lol. I need lots of practice. I have not gone road racing since I do not have an oil cooler installed yet.

kevin1985912 12-27-2010 07:02 PM

I read on import tuner, the greedy 370z TT, beat 2 or 3 GT-Rs on the track, but it could be pro driver vs amuture driver.

Nikkolai 12-27-2010 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 868291)
OP, honestly, that's the wrong way of looking at things no matter what car you have... No matter what you do yo it, there will always be someone faster.

It took me a while to accept it but it is true. I understand now that it is how much fun the car brings to you.

destinyZ 12-28-2010 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikkolai (Post 868322)

To me, I am not really into drag racing. Everyone can drive a straight line...it's all about how much money you put into it. After having autocrossed for the first time, I found out I suck at driving...lol.


lol, i was pretty bad my first 1 too but i caught on really quick. I remember my first couple of runs and I got lost but then someone who was experienced went with me on my practice runs. This was with my scion tc I had. I still havent gotten an oil cooler so I have been sticking to the drags.

If the 370z was about 500WHP then they were around 8psi (stock 5-6 psi is about 420WHP). Im sure they were both running at the same psi to make things even(ish).

Kevin: like you said it could have been the drivers. Maybe they did something with the 370z or the GTR's were fresh off the lot stock. Remember, the competition NIKK mentioned was between a TT 370z and MODIFIED GTR... So maybe our car TT'd can hold up against a stock GTR...:ugh2: try youtube.com its your friend.

modified needs to do a SC 370z and a TT 370z track comp :)

efus is correct, but im not going to let that stop me :happydance:

Brazilbro 12-28-2010 01:38 AM

2009 Nissan 370Z and 2009 Nissan GT-R - Modified Magazine

destinyZ 12-28-2010 03:45 AM

thank you brazilbro

Trips 12-28-2010 04:18 AM

These types of threads are alway entertaining. lol
:drama:

Nixlimited 12-28-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by destinyZ (Post 868227)
that would be funny to watch. GTR on a course would destroy a Z06.

This is not accurate. I would actually give the edge to the Z06 with a professional driver and the edge to a GTR with an amateur--Z06 is a handful.

And for what it is worth, a C6 Z06 will likely beat a 370Z SC or TT on a road course given equally talented drivers. Z06 is lighter, has superior torque curve, vastly superior brakes, better suspension geometry, way bigger tire patch, and let's not forgot--won't overheat after a few hot laps.

With all of that said, I learned a very important lesson at BMW track school when I got a ride with my instructor for a session with the top class people. The instructor had a 330i (sedan) with ONLY suspension and tires, and he was able to chase down and pass a 700 AWHP 911 (996) with full race suspension, tires, brakes, etc. Why? Because he was a vastly superior driver. It's a foolish man who thinks WHP and TQ are going to dictate which car will win at a track, other than maybe a drag-strip. If you want to go faster around a track, forget WHP and learn to drive a slow car fast, then translate that to a fast car.

Buddy Revell 12-28-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 869263)
With all of that said, I learned a very important lesson at BMW track school when I got a ride with my instructor for a session with the top class people. The instructor had a 330i (sedan) with ONLY suspension and tires, and he was able to chase down and pass a 700 AWHP 911 (996) with full race suspension, tires, brakes, etc. Why? Because he was a vastly superior driver. It's a foolish man who thinks WHP and TQ are going to dictate which car will win at a track, other than maybe a drag-strip. If you want to go faster around a track, forget WHP and learn to drive a slow car fast, then translate that to a fast car.

Very good point.

RCZ 12-28-2010 04:53 PM

I'll get a shot of my speedo going full out when I get my new wheels on so you can compare it to the z06...

Stiff competition though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j6sS_u9T_I

Here's my Stillen SC car with my Daily drive 20" Vossens CV2's @9psi (Beautiful, but not the lightest things in the world) Not redlining it either, which I guess I should be considering thats when the SC makes most power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm-XMYtEogU


I receive my new "track" wheels tomorrow...hopefully I can get a video sometime this week if I manage to get them mounted. I know the current ones are definitely slowing me down a good bit.

serturbo 12-28-2010 06:01 PM

I'm guessing the vette was doing a 60-130. It's the time that most high hp cars use to compare performance.

Flyboy 12-28-2010 11:39 PM

Well n the end the Z06 is probably the fastest car I have rode in so it gives me a good comparison as to how fast the 370 SC might feel. So slower than a z06 but faster than a?

The reason I ask these questions is to compare my past "seat of the pants" feel to what a 370sc might feel like.


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