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Nikkolai 12-27-2010 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 868291)
OP, honestly, that's the wrong way of looking at things no matter what car you have... No matter what you do yo it, there will always be someone faster.

It took me a while to accept it but it is true. I understand now that it is how much fun the car brings to you.

destinyZ 12-28-2010 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikkolai (Post 868322)

To me, I am not really into drag racing. Everyone can drive a straight line...it's all about how much money you put into it. After having autocrossed for the first time, I found out I suck at driving...lol.


lol, i was pretty bad my first 1 too but i caught on really quick. I remember my first couple of runs and I got lost but then someone who was experienced went with me on my practice runs. This was with my scion tc I had. I still havent gotten an oil cooler so I have been sticking to the drags.

If the 370z was about 500WHP then they were around 8psi (stock 5-6 psi is about 420WHP). Im sure they were both running at the same psi to make things even(ish).

Kevin: like you said it could have been the drivers. Maybe they did something with the 370z or the GTR's were fresh off the lot stock. Remember, the competition NIKK mentioned was between a TT 370z and MODIFIED GTR... So maybe our car TT'd can hold up against a stock GTR...:ugh2: try youtube.com its your friend.

modified needs to do a SC 370z and a TT 370z track comp :)

efus is correct, but im not going to let that stop me :happydance:

Brazilbro 12-28-2010 01:38 AM

2009 Nissan 370Z and 2009 Nissan GT-R - Modified Magazine

destinyZ 12-28-2010 03:45 AM

thank you brazilbro

Trips 12-28-2010 04:18 AM

These types of threads are alway entertaining. lol
:drama:

Nixlimited 12-28-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by destinyZ (Post 868227)
that would be funny to watch. GTR on a course would destroy a Z06.

This is not accurate. I would actually give the edge to the Z06 with a professional driver and the edge to a GTR with an amateur--Z06 is a handful.

And for what it is worth, a C6 Z06 will likely beat a 370Z SC or TT on a road course given equally talented drivers. Z06 is lighter, has superior torque curve, vastly superior brakes, better suspension geometry, way bigger tire patch, and let's not forgot--won't overheat after a few hot laps.

With all of that said, I learned a very important lesson at BMW track school when I got a ride with my instructor for a session with the top class people. The instructor had a 330i (sedan) with ONLY suspension and tires, and he was able to chase down and pass a 700 AWHP 911 (996) with full race suspension, tires, brakes, etc. Why? Because he was a vastly superior driver. It's a foolish man who thinks WHP and TQ are going to dictate which car will win at a track, other than maybe a drag-strip. If you want to go faster around a track, forget WHP and learn to drive a slow car fast, then translate that to a fast car.

Buddy Revell 12-28-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 869263)
With all of that said, I learned a very important lesson at BMW track school when I got a ride with my instructor for a session with the top class people. The instructor had a 330i (sedan) with ONLY suspension and tires, and he was able to chase down and pass a 700 AWHP 911 (996) with full race suspension, tires, brakes, etc. Why? Because he was a vastly superior driver. It's a foolish man who thinks WHP and TQ are going to dictate which car will win at a track, other than maybe a drag-strip. If you want to go faster around a track, forget WHP and learn to drive a slow car fast, then translate that to a fast car.

Very good point.

RCZ 12-28-2010 04:53 PM

I'll get a shot of my speedo going full out when I get my new wheels on so you can compare it to the z06...

Stiff competition though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j6sS_u9T_I

Here's my Stillen SC car with my Daily drive 20" Vossens CV2's @9psi (Beautiful, but not the lightest things in the world) Not redlining it either, which I guess I should be considering thats when the SC makes most power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm-XMYtEogU


I receive my new "track" wheels tomorrow...hopefully I can get a video sometime this week if I manage to get them mounted. I know the current ones are definitely slowing me down a good bit.

serturbo 12-28-2010 06:01 PM

I'm guessing the vette was doing a 60-130. It's the time that most high hp cars use to compare performance.

Flyboy 12-28-2010 11:39 PM

Well n the end the Z06 is probably the fastest car I have rode in so it gives me a good comparison as to how fast the 370 SC might feel. So slower than a z06 but faster than a?

The reason I ask these questions is to compare my past "seat of the pants" feel to what a 370sc might feel like.

Mr.Squeeze 12-29-2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 870124)
Well n the end the Z06 is probably the fastest car I have rode in so it gives me a good comparison as to how fast the 370 SC might feel. So slower than a z06 but faster than a?

The reason I ask these questions is to compare my past "seat of the pants" feel to what a 370sc might feel like.

A SC 370z could be as fast as a z06 I really think that if you took a ride in both cars the Z06 would feel faster. The torque alone would make it feel faster than the 370z SC.

ImportConvert 12-29-2010 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 870198)
A SC 370z could be as fast as a z06 I really think that if you took a ride in both cars the Z06 would feel faster. The torque alone would make it feel faster than the 370z SC.

I looked at a few dynos and I am not so sure I am agreeing with this anymore. The 370Z with a TT kit (I know, this is about SC...) is pretty strong in the torque department, even down low. I was suprised.

1slow370 12-29-2010 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 869263)
This is not accurate. I would actually give the edge to the Z06 with a professional driver and the edge to a GTR with an amateur--Z06 is a handful.

And for what it is worth, a C6 Z06 will likely beat a 370Z SC or TT on a road course given equally talented drivers. Z06 is lighter, has superior torque curve, vastly superior brakes, better suspension geometry, way bigger tire patch, and let's not forgot--won't overheat after a few hot laps.

With all of that said, I learned a very important lesson at BMW track school when I got a ride with my instructor for a session with the top class people. The instructor had a 330i (sedan) with ONLY suspension and tires, and he was able to chase down and pass a 700 AWHP 911 (996) with full race suspension, tires, brakes, etc. Why? Because he was a vastly superior driver. It's a foolish man who thinks WHP and TQ are going to dictate which car will win at a track, other than maybe a drag-strip. If you want to go faster around a track, forget WHP and learn to drive a slow car fast, then translate that to a fast car.

But the stig ran almost a full 3 seconds faster than himself GTR>Z06 I'm not gonna mention that it was almost a second faster than a ZR1 because the track was damp. If you could afford a Z06 spring the 10 grand and get the GTR because the back seat is useful for hauling all that @$$ around in.

A fast Z06 1/4-10.981, a fast GTR 1/4-11.510, a fast GTR w/tune 1/4- 10.928. They have a GTR stock in a straight line but a $300 tuner throws that out the window. The Z06 does look like one angry car tho

Edit: whoever mentioned tires tho on the SC z was probably correct, a pair of DR could be the lynchpin

Z eliminator 12-29-2010 12:15 PM

RCZ nice shot of inside of your car. A friend of mine has a 2006 400hp corvette.
He is putting the 596 hp edelbrock SC on it, Its a tvs 2300. What a nice package.
The RWHP should be 485 to 495 @ 7 lbs . depending on the tune. Now get that SC ported and polished and take it up to 8.5 to 9 lbs it will make an easy 520 rwhp.
That car will easly kill my stage 2 GTM. Total cost just under $9000.00 installed

Z

destinyZ 12-29-2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 870426)
But the stig ran almost a full 3 seconds faster than himself GTR>Z06 I'm not gonna mention that it was almost a second faster than a ZR1 because the track was damp. If you could afford a Z06 spring the 10 grand and get the GTR because the back seat is useful for hauling all that @$$ around in.

:tup:To the stig


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