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Old 12-27-2010, 04:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Z06 - even if you are lucky enough to go against a stock one will walk you.
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Old 12-27-2010, 04:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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yeah i agree...if you plan on racing z06's you'd be better off with a TT setup...problem solved..haha
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^^ TT and decent traction control... or get a GTR, watch the Z06 sliding in your mirror lol
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^^ TT and decent traction control... or get a GTR, watch the Z06 sliding in your mirror lol
that would be funny to watch. GTR on a course would destroy a Z06.
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that would be funny to watch. GTR on a course would destroy a Z06.
This is not accurate. I would actually give the edge to the Z06 with a professional driver and the edge to a GTR with an amateur--Z06 is a handful.

And for what it is worth, a C6 Z06 will likely beat a 370Z SC or TT on a road course given equally talented drivers. Z06 is lighter, has superior torque curve, vastly superior brakes, better suspension geometry, way bigger tire patch, and let's not forgot--won't overheat after a few hot laps.

With all of that said, I learned a very important lesson at BMW track school when I got a ride with my instructor for a session with the top class people. The instructor had a 330i (sedan) with ONLY suspension and tires, and he was able to chase down and pass a 700 AWHP 911 (996) with full race suspension, tires, brakes, etc. Why? Because he was a vastly superior driver. It's a foolish man who thinks WHP and TQ are going to dictate which car will win at a track, other than maybe a drag-strip. If you want to go faster around a track, forget WHP and learn to drive a slow car fast, then translate that to a fast car.
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With all of that said, I learned a very important lesson at BMW track school when I got a ride with my instructor for a session with the top class people. The instructor had a 330i (sedan) with ONLY suspension and tires, and he was able to chase down and pass a 700 AWHP 911 (996) with full race suspension, tires, brakes, etc. Why? Because he was a vastly superior driver. It's a foolish man who thinks WHP and TQ are going to dictate which car will win at a track, other than maybe a drag-strip. If you want to go faster around a track, forget WHP and learn to drive a slow car fast, then translate that to a fast car.
Very good point.
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This is not accurate. I would actually give the edge to the Z06 with a professional driver and the edge to a GTR with an amateur--Z06 is a handful.

And for what it is worth, a C6 Z06 will likely beat a 370Z SC or TT on a road course given equally talented drivers. Z06 is lighter, has superior torque curve, vastly superior brakes, better suspension geometry, way bigger tire patch, and let's not forgot--won't overheat after a few hot laps.

With all of that said, I learned a very important lesson at BMW track school when I got a ride with my instructor for a session with the top class people. The instructor had a 330i (sedan) with ONLY suspension and tires, and he was able to chase down and pass a 700 AWHP 911 (996) with full race suspension, tires, brakes, etc. Why? Because he was a vastly superior driver. It's a foolish man who thinks WHP and TQ are going to dictate which car will win at a track, other than maybe a drag-strip. If you want to go faster around a track, forget WHP and learn to drive a slow car fast, then translate that to a fast car.
But the stig ran almost a full 3 seconds faster than himself GTR>Z06 I'm not gonna mention that it was almost a second faster than a ZR1 because the track was damp. If you could afford a Z06 spring the 10 grand and get the GTR because the back seat is useful for hauling all that @$$ around in.

A fast Z06 1/4-10.981, a fast GTR 1/4-11.510, a fast GTR w/tune 1/4- 10.928. They have a GTR stock in a straight line but a $300 tuner throws that out the window. The Z06 does look like one angry car tho

Edit: whoever mentioned tires tho on the SC z was probably correct, a pair of DR could be the lynchpin
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But the stig ran almost a full 3 seconds faster than himself GTR>Z06 I'm not gonna mention that it was almost a second faster than a ZR1 because the track was damp. If you could afford a Z06 spring the 10 grand and get the GTR because the back seat is useful for hauling all that @$$ around in.
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^^^agreed...you would win everyday with 10-11PSI but then you may want to get a 6puck (or just use the stock till it goes out) and may as well do the flywheel at the same time to knock it out...I believe ppl are getting 550 WHP with this setup(ish) and 400somthing TQ

Trade in or sell the Z get a Z06 and flash it with HFC (if they have them for the Z06) =p
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personal opinion though here..

if people got the 370z because they wanted a super fast straight line car.. then they got the wrong car to begin with.

Now if this is just a curiosity on the side and not a big deal to the OP then hey thats cool.
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personal opinion though here..

if people got the 370z because they wanted a super fast straight line car.. then they got the wrong car to begin with.

Now if this is just a curiosity on the side and not a big deal to the OP then hey thats cool.
I agree with you 100% on that one. The Z was never meant to be a 1/4 car. I remember reading a magazine when they put the Z on a super diet and it was beating GT3's stock. Then they twin turbocharged it but it was still not enough against a modified GTR. It was a second off from the GTR's lap times.
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I agree with you 100% on that one. The Z was never meant to be a 1/4 car. I remember reading a magazine when they put the Z on a super diet and it was beating GT3's stock. Then they twin turbocharged it but it was still not enough against a modified GTR. It was a second off from the GTR's lap times.
So they modified a stock TT car and only TT the Z?...was the z on the stock psi or did they get a boost controller? You said lap times so im guessing this was a course and not a drag strip.

The GTR is better then the Z even TT'd with the Z on the stock boost...the GTR should win all day against the Z on a course and a course will show more then just the cars HP. driver is more involved, suspension and braking play a bigger part, weight distribution along with the drivetrain, camber, etc....

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So they modified a stock TT car and only TT the Z?...was the z on the stock psi or did they get a boost controller? You said lap times so im guessing this was a course and not a drag strip.

The GTR is better then the Z even TT'd with the Z on the stock boost...the GTR should win all day against the Z on a course and a course will show more then just the cars HP. driver is more involved, suspension and braking play a bigger part, weight distribution along with the drivetrain, camber, etc....
Darn, I do not think I bought the magazine but I will have to look. I believe it was Modified Mag and there was a white 370Z and a white GTR on the cover. Yes, it was on a road course. They were trying to see if the Z can compare to super car status of the GTR. From what I can remember, the Z was around 500whp and weighed in at 2700lbs. The GTR had around 600+whp.

To me, I am not really into drag racing. Everyone can drive a straight line...it's all about how much money you put into it. After having autocrossed for the first time, I found out I suck at driving...lol. I need lots of practice. I have not gone road racing since I do not have an oil cooler installed yet.
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I read on import tuner, the greedy 370z TT, beat 2 or 3 GT-Rs on the track, but it could be pro driver vs amuture driver.
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To me, I am not really into drag racing. Everyone can drive a straight line...it's all about how much money you put into it. After having autocrossed for the first time, I found out I suck at driving...lol.

lol, i was pretty bad my first 1 too but i caught on really quick. I remember my first couple of runs and I got lost but then someone who was experienced went with me on my practice runs. This was with my scion tc I had. I still havent gotten an oil cooler so I have been sticking to the drags.

If the 370z was about 500WHP then they were around 8psi (stock 5-6 psi is about 420WHP). Im sure they were both running at the same psi to make things even(ish).

Kevin: like you said it could have been the drivers. Maybe they did something with the 370z or the GTR's were fresh off the lot stock. Remember, the competition NIKK mentioned was between a TT 370z and MODIFIED GTR... So maybe our car TT'd can hold up against a stock GTR... try youtube.com its your friend.

modified needs to do a SC 370z and a TT 370z track comp

efus is correct, but im not going to let that stop me
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