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Originally Posted by LateralG'z All you need is a pulley change and new tune to make 500 HP not a TT Not thats easy buddy

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Not thats easy buddy
a larger pulley to bump the PSI up to 8-10 and tune? doesnt seem that difficult to me. TT is more headache than its worth. Especially in the long run when you start having boost leaks, fuel supply issues, impeller wear, etc. It will cost far less to maintain a supercharger setup than anything involving a turbo. Less parts means less areas to troubleshoot if a problem occurs.
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a larger pulley to bump the PSI up to 8-10 and tune? doesnt seem that difficult to me. TT is more headache than its worth. Especially in the long run when you start having boost leaks, fuel supply issues, impeller wear, etc. It will cost far less to maintain a supercharger setup than anything involving a turbo. Less parts means less areas to troubleshoot if a problem occurs.
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It is not just a simple upgrade the pulley and tune, that is one factor. You also have to calculate in the efficiency of the unit, engine capabilities, etc.
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a larger pulley to bump the PSI up to 8-10 and tune? doesnt seem that difficult to me. TT is more headache than its worth. Especially in the long run when you start having boost leaks, fuel supply issues, impeller wear, etc. It will cost far less to maintain a supercharger setup than anything involving a turbo. Less parts means less areas to troubleshoot if a problem occurs.
It is the total opposite, In a supercharger system larger pulley will give less boost and smaller pulley will make the blower spin faster and creates more boost. but there is a limit to how far you can go depending in the blower impeller speed capacity and keeping the belt from slipping.

Your are right in way that the a supercharger system is simpler then a turbo system but also it does reach it's max output capacity much faster then a turbo system.

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Sam advertise a 550 HP SC set-up, anyone taking a shot at it?
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Sam advertise a 550 HP SC set-up, anyone taking a shot at it?
Where does it say that?
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Where does it say that?
thats probably a bhp number.
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thats probably a bhp number.
Just checked, the stage 1 setup is rated up to 550HP (flywheel).
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The rating of the horsepower output of our force induction systems whether a twin turbo or the supercharger set up is in BHP (brake horsepower ) just like how Nissan rates the car on their web site, the 370z VQ3VHR engine is rated @ 333 HP . so i think your are looking at the press release and seeing up to 500 HP and then comparing it to the dyno graph we have posted, the only problem with that is you are comparing WHP ( wheel horse power) to BHP (brake horsepower ) and i think that is what's causing your confusion .

So our stage one kit is rated up to 500 hp which translate to about 415 WHP depending on the car and the dyno and the same goes for a stock 370Z with 333 HP from the factory that will also dyno @ 275 whp

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GT Motorsports: 370Z Supercharger system development
We are please to announce The GTM supercharger system Development for the 370Z . The GTM supercharged 370z project was under way back in the begging of the year .

Since we are completely done with our twin turbo system development that was released last month, We will be focusing on the the supercharged system. We are committed and planing on displaying both of our force induction system Solution for the 370Z @ sema 2009 .

Our GTM supercharger system will be utilizing the Rotrex C38 supercharger, The Key to the Rotrex supercharger's unique compactness, efficiency, low noise and reliability is its state of the art traction drive technology.

Great speeds and low noise are just some of the advantages of traction drives over traditional gear transmissions. Traction drives transmit power through friction forces between its rolling elements.

The Rotrex patented traction drive uses an elastic annulus with a small pre-span to secure contact between the roller planets and the sun shaft with a reasonable force. The patented "ramp effect" increases efficiency and reliability in the transmission by regulating the torque transfer capability on demand through self-adjusting planet geometry.

To enhance performance, the Rotrex traction drive uses a special traction fluid. These fluids are a new family of synthetic hydrocarbon oils and greases offering a series of unique performance advantages. Developed specially for its use in Rotrex superchargers, the SX100 momentarily increases viscosity under high surface pressure, enhancing the traction drive performance by securing the optimum friction between rolling elements while cooling and protecting the system.

This traction drive combined with the latest technology in centrifugal compression, characterized by high adiabatic efficiency and low noise, gives Rotrex superchargers an exceptional competitive edge over any other forced induction solution.

The GTM Supercharger Will Have three different stages to offer

Stage one will come with C38-61 Trim up to 550 HP
Stage two will come with C38-71 trim up to 590 HP
Sage three will come with C38-81 trim up to 630 HP

Here is some pics of the the Rotrex C38-61

Go read SAM's Supercharger announcement.
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GT Motorsports: 370Z Supercharger system development
We are please to announce The GTM supercharger system Development for the 370Z . The GTM supercharged 370z project was under way back in the begging of the year .

Since we are completely done with our twin turbo system development that was released last month, We will be focusing on the the supercharged system. We are committed and planing on displaying both of our force induction system Solution for the 370Z @ sema 2009 .

Our GTM supercharger system will be utilizing the Rotrex C38 supercharger, The Key to the Rotrex supercharger's unique compactness, efficiency, low noise and reliability is its state of the art traction drive technology.

Great speeds and low noise are just some of the advantages of traction drives over traditional gear transmissions. Traction drives transmit power through friction forces between its rolling elements.

The Rotrex patented traction drive uses an elastic annulus with a small pre-span to secure contact between the roller planets and the sun shaft with a reasonable force. The patented "ramp effect" increases efficiency and reliability in the transmission by regulating the torque transfer capability on demand through self-adjusting planet geometry.

To enhance performance, the Rotrex traction drive uses a special traction fluid. These fluids are a new family of synthetic hydrocarbon oils and greases offering a series of unique performance advantages. Developed specially for its use in Rotrex superchargers, the SX100 momentarily increases viscosity under high surface pressure, enhancing the traction drive performance by securing the optimum friction between rolling elements while cooling and protecting the system.

This traction drive combined with the latest technology in centrifugal compression, characterized by high adiabatic efficiency and low noise, gives Rotrex superchargers an exceptional competitive edge over any other forced induction solution.

The GTM Supercharger Will Have three different stages to offer

Stage one will come with C38-61 Trim up to 550 HP
Stage two will come with C38-71 trim up to 590 HP
Sage three will come with C38-81 trim up to 630 HP

Here is some pics of the the Rotrex C38-61

Go read SAM's Supercharger announcement.
Flywheel numbers, read my statement above.
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GT Motorsports: 370Z Supercharger system development
We are please to announce The GTM supercharger system Development for the 370Z . The GTM supercharged 370z project was under way back in the begging of the year .

Since we are completely done with our twin turbo system development that was released last month, We will be focusing on the the supercharged system. We are committed and planing on displaying both of our force induction system Solution for the 370Z @ sema 2009 .

Our GTM supercharger system will be utilizing the Rotrex C38 supercharger, The Key to the Rotrex supercharger's unique compactness, efficiency, low noise and reliability is its state of the art traction drive technology.

Great speeds and low noise are just some of the advantages of traction drives over traditional gear transmissions. Traction drives transmit power through friction forces between its rolling elements.

The Rotrex patented traction drive uses an elastic annulus with a small pre-span to secure contact between the roller planets and the sun shaft with a reasonable force. The patented "ramp effect" increases efficiency and reliability in the transmission by regulating the torque transfer capability on demand through self-adjusting planet geometry.

To enhance performance, the Rotrex traction drive uses a special traction fluid. These fluids are a new family of synthetic hydrocarbon oils and greases offering a series of unique performance advantages. Developed specially for its use in Rotrex superchargers, the SX100 momentarily increases viscosity under high surface pressure, enhancing the traction drive performance by securing the optimum friction between rolling elements while cooling and protecting the system.

This traction drive combined with the latest technology in centrifugal compression, characterized by high adiabatic efficiency and low noise, gives Rotrex superchargers an exceptional competitive edge over any other forced induction solution.

The GTM Supercharger Will Have three different stages to offer

Stage one will come with C38-61 Trim up to 550 HP
Stage two will come with C38-71 trim up to 590 HP
Sage three will come with C38-81 trim up to 630 HP

Here is some pics of the the Rotrex C38-61

Go read SAM's Supercharger announcement.
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(GTM Performance Engineering 370Z SUPERCHARGER KIT PRESS ELEASE)
We are please to announce the GTM supercharger system for the 370Z. Our GTM supercharger system will be utilizing the Rotrex C38 supercharger, The Key to the Rotrex supercharger is unique compactness, efficiency, low noise and reliability and its state of the art traction drive technology.

Great speeds and low noise are just some of the advantages of traction drives over traditional gear transmissions. Traction drives transmit power through friction forces between its rolling elements.

The Rotrex traction drive uses an elastic annulus with a small pre-span to secure contact between the roller planets and the sun shaft with a reasonable force. The patented "ramp effect" increases efficiency and reliability in the transmission by regulating the torque transfer capability on demand through self-adjusting planet geometry.

To enhance performance, the Rotrex traction drive uses a special traction fluid. These fluids are a new family of synthetic hydrocarbon oils and greases offering a series of unique performance advantages. Developed specially for its use in Rotrex superchargers, the SX100 momentarily increases viscosity under high surface pressure, enhancing the traction drive performance by securing the optimum friction between rolling elements while cooling and protecting the system.

This traction drive combined with the latest technology in centrifugal compression, characterized by high adiabatic efficiency and low noise, gives Rotrex superchargers an exceptional competitive edge over any other forced induction solution.

The GTM Supercharger kit will Have four different Rotrex compressors to chose from: C38-61 Trim,C38-71 trim, C38-81 trim,C38-91. Combined with our custom compressor housing we will offer three different stages .

Stage zero up to 450 HP (carb approval pending)
Stage one up to 500 HP
Stage two up to 525 HP
Stage three up to 550 HP

All of our Supercharger kits are available in two forms. The tuner kit form, so the professional and the end user have the flexibility of choosing what ever fuel and engine management they may desire and feel comfortable using. The second option being a complete kit including fuel and engine management solutions. With that being said, GTM will also offer an extensive range of fuel system and engine management modules to go with our Supercharger kits.
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That sucks sort of that each stage upgrade requires that you have to due all that work for more power. Stillen's SC compressor is rated to 700HP so all you have to due is change the pulley and tune to make the more HP and TQ not rebuild the kit.
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That sucks sort of that each stage upgrade requires that you have to due all that work for more power. Stillen's SC compressor is rated to 700HP so all you have to due is change the pulley and tune to make the more HP and TQ not rebuild the kit.
A tune that isnt working right now. And if I was to go to 700 HP I would do a TT for that much power and get the tq with it.
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