TT, SC, or just get an R8 or Porsche GT3?

MMC Racing · 07-12-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

The lack of driver involvement concerning the Nissan GTR goes far beyond just the lack of traditional manual transmission. You don't have to be a good driver to run fast lap times in a GTR. That just goes to show how computer / electronic driven the damn car is and of course GTR owners will be biased, they just dropped 80k+ on the damn thing! Just go drive pratically any Porsche and then a GTR and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Just to be clear, you haven't driven a GT-R have you?

Mr. Mcoupe · 07-12-2010, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

Just to be clear, you haven't driven a GT-R have you?

I have not but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

spearfish25 · 07-12-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

Just to be clear, you haven't driven a GT-R have you?

Another good point actually. How the hell does a potential buyer get to drive one? People are nuts to plunk down that kind of change on a car they've never driven. Nissan won't let you drive one even if you wave a wad of cash under the dealer's nose as a serious potential buyer.

m4a1mustang · 07-12-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Another good point actually. How the hell does a potential buyer get to drive one? People are nuts to plunk down that kind of change on a car they've never driven. Nissan won't let you drive one even if you wave a wad of cash under the dealer's nose as a serious potential buyer.

It's really not a car you need to test drive to know you want.

HKYStormFront · 07-12-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

It's really not a car you need to test drive to know you want.

x1million

MMC Racing · 07-12-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Another good point actually. How the hell does a potential buyer get to drive one? People are nuts to plunk down that kind of change on a car they've never driven. Nissan won't let you drive one even if you wave a wad of cash under the dealer's nose as a serious potential buyer.

Nissan has nothing to do with if you get a test drive or not - it is all about the dealer. I got a test drive in the fall of 2008 without a signed contract and bought the car an hour later. Some dealers allowed this when they knew you were serious while others said hell no. I had a Ford dealer tell me last week that I couldn't test drive a Raptor - went 10 miles to one that would. I've had dealers that wouldn't let my wife and I take a 370z out for a drive together (the sales guy can't fit in the hatch obviously) and I just left and found a dealer that would.

One thing I'll point out is full auto in the car is useless in normal driving. To make the EPA numbers, the car is set to get to 6th gear as fast as possible. There was a thread about this recently on NAGTROC and most owners reported driving in manual almost exclusively.

mrcardio · 07-13-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

Just to be clear, you haven't driven a GT-R have you?

And you ask this why? Because you're a GTR owner who doesn't agree? And yes to be clear I have driven a GTR and several Porsche's amongst a few other higher end sport cars. You're talking like you would have to be a "high roller" or something to drive a GTR. We aren't talking about Bagatti Veyron; you don't have to be rich to own an 80k automobile. That said, I stick by what I said previously which is that the GTR isn't much of a "driver's car". It's not all that fun to drive and it does in fact lack driver involvement.

Yeah the GTR puts down great numbers but this is in no small part due to amount of computer / electronic intervention, it automatically corrects driver error like no other. If you suck at driving, aren’t all that concerned with the car and driver experience and want a car that will deliver super car performance at a fraction of the cost the GTR is a great choice. But if you truly love driving even a 60k Porsche Cayman S delivers a better experience. Of course this is my personal opinion but I would bet large sums of money that I’m not alone in this assessment.

Mr. Mcoupe · 07-13-2010, 08:16 PM

Man. Y'all have a lot of ego here.

MMC Racing · 07-13-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

And you ask this why? Because you're a GTR owner who doesn't agree? And yes to be clear I have driven a GTR and several Porsche's amongst a few other higher end sport cars. You're talking like you would have to be a "high roller" or something to drive a GTR. We aren't talking about Bagatti Veyron; you don't have to be rich to own an 80k automobile. That said, I stick by what I said previously which is that the GTR isn't much of a "driver's car". It's not all that fun to drive and it does in fact lack driver involvement.

Yeah the GTR puts down great numbers but this is in no small part due to amount of computer / electronic intervention, it automatically corrects driver error like no other. If you suck at driving, aren’t all that concerned with the car and driver experience and want a car that will deliver super car performance at a fraction of the cost the GTR is a great choice. But if you truly love driving even a 60k Porsche Cayman S delivers a better experience. Of course this is my personal opinion but I would bet large sums of money that I’m not alone in this assessment.

You never drove a GT-R, stop playing.. Or maybe you valeted one?

Mr. Mcoupe · 07-13-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

You never drove a GT-R, stop playing.. Or maybe you valeted one?

What is wrong with you?

MMC Racing · 07-13-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mcoupe

What is wrong with you?

Nothing, I can smell BS when I hear it.

Push370zzz · 07-19-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

And you ask this why? Because you're a GTR owner who doesn't agree? And yes to be clear I have driven a GTR and several Porsche's amongst a few other higher end sport cars. You're talking like you would have to be a "high roller" or something to drive a GTR. We aren't talking about Bagatti Veyron; you don't have to be rich to own an 80k automobile. That said, I stick by what I said previously which is that the GTR isn't much of a "driver's car". It's not all that fun to drive and it does in fact lack driver involvement.

Yeah the GTR puts down great numbers but this is in no small part due to amount of computer / electronic intervention, it automatically corrects driver error like no other. If you suck at driving, aren’t all that concerned with the car and driver experience and want a car that will deliver super car performance at a fraction of the cost the GTR is a great choice. But if you truly love driving even a 60k Porsche Cayman S delivers a better experience. Of course this is my personal opinion but I would bet large sums of money that I’m not alone in this assessment.

Exactly. Why go for a GTR when you can have the same thrills for much less in a MS3.

Zsteve · 07-19-2010, 04:34 PM

Yea we dont need things like auot windows or locks or power steering and ABS brakes cuz we want to feel everything about the car. Technology is here and we all use it on things to make our day to day life better, so it goes to say that it will and is happening with the cars too. I dont know about you but I would rather feel the rush of a 0 60 in 3.5 sec over a 5 sec.

If you want to be in tune with the vehicle and the road fully get a box car where you feel everything in it.

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