Superchargers for the 370Z?

Josh@STILLEN · 06-10-2009, 10:07 AM

Tuning will be included..

ZforMe · 06-10-2009, 05:58 PM

I'm guessing by your answer that this won't be considered a DIY install.

What if a person has HFC's, CBE, & Tuning by let's say UpRev. Would the UpRev tuning be pretty much useless if the plan was to add your supercharger kit down the road since the vehicle will be re-tuned?

Junior370z · 06-10-2009, 06:36 PM

Say the someone orders a Stillen S/C kit and decides to install it themself, would they have to mail in or drop by the shop and have the ECU retuned?

CBRich · 06-10-2009, 08:04 PM

A DIY install option would be nice. Maybe purchase an updated ECU with a core refund?

travisjb · 06-10-2009, 10:57 PM

Also would be nice to know if you plan to have agreements with installers in different parts of the country or if you plan to just start local... thanks

Josh@STILLEN · 06-11-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

Also would be nice to know if you plan to have agreements with installers in different parts of the country or if you plan to just start local... thanks

The kit (as they do now) will be with complete installation instructions that any trained and experience mechanic can install. Obviously it's preferable to find a shop who is expertly familiar with adding something as fairly complex as a supercharger, but there is no specifically challenging aspect to the install, as we'll do all of the R&D to make a bolt-on kit.

In fact, I would imagine it will be an install option at Nissan dealers who deal with aftermarket products. Hundreds of our superchargers have been installed at the Dealership level for the Z's / G's / Titan / Frontier, etc.

Being that the goal is CARB compliancy and 50-state legal, most dealers are comfortable with the install.

Solus · 06-10-2009, 11:56 PM

ok i know there isnt a ball park figure for this yet but anyone know how much something like this would typically cost?

Phimosis · 06-11-2009, 12:22 PM

My understanding is that the hp gain from ECU tuning is mostly from ignition advance. Having more ignition advance on a boosted engine at high rpm will give detonation, which destroys engines. So... You need a map with ignition advance when you're not under boost to maintain good power output, throttle response and fuel mileage. Then, under boost, retard the timing to prevent detonation.

This makes tuning an ecu for boost a must.

travisjb · 06-11-2009, 05:29 PM

k, thanks... i'm new to the FI thing so not familiar with how much work is involved etc... will keep an eye on this thread

shabarivas · 06-11-2009, 05:57 PM

Seriously guys... i cant wait for you to develop something that will net me close to 350+ whp w/ a carb number and a worry free warranty

travisjb · 06-11-2009, 06:58 PM

we can get close to 350whp without fi

ZforMe · 06-11-2009, 07:07 PM

I'm hoping for 400+ to the wheels with hfc's, exhaust, & supercharger kit.

Minicobra1 · 06-12-2009, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ZforMe

I'm hoping for 400+ to the wheels with hfc's, exhaust, & supercharger kit.

Yes, that would be a good number. I wouldn't spend around $5K for anything less then a net of 80-100whp. When you think about it, that's $1K for every 20HP gained.

Phimosis · 06-16-2009, 08:19 PM

When will we get our day?

The VQ37VHR has been around as long as the LS3.

CBRich · 06-17-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phimosis

When will we get our day?
The VQ37VHR has been around as long as the LS3.

Of course that small block has been around since the 50s sooo . . .

06-10-2009, 05:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
ZforMe Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 238 Drives: 370Z Sport Auto PG Rep Power: 18	I'm guessing by your answer that this won't be considered a DIY install. What if a person has HFC's, CBE, & Tuning by let's say UpRev. Would the UpRev tuning be pretty much useless if the plan was to add your supercharger kit down the road since the vehicle will be re-tuned? __________________ 13.369 @ 102.73 Bone Stock. BERK HFC's installed 5/14/09 @ 1490miles, 13.212 @ 106.15. Cobb Post MAF Hoses installed 3/20/10 @ 5,043miles, future: FI exhaust with 18" res and s/s cans.

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Junior370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Las Vegas Age: 51 Posts: 1,024 Drives: over the speed limit Rep Power: 295	Say the someone orders a Stillen S/C kit and decides to install it themself, would they have to mail in or drop by the shop and have the ECU retuned? __________________ DON'T DO IT! ( Click to show/hide ) Stillen CBECAI-U/D PulleyGround KitSwaysSetrab Oil CoolerIchiba Rear Camber KitAgility CoiloverBerk HFCTechnosquare TuneGT-R ButtonVenaci MeshSP Performance Cross Drilled/Slotted RotorsSPC Toe BoltsBomex LipMud flapsAero Jacket Type III WingSold

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travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 190	Also would be nice to know if you plan to have agreements with installers in different parts of the country or if you plan to just start local... thanks __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

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travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 190	k, thanks... i'm new to the FI thing so not familiar with how much work is involved etc... will keep an eye on this thread __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

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travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 190	we can get close to 350whp without fi __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

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CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 546	A DIY install option would be nice. Maybe purchase an updated ECU with a core refund?

06-10-2009, 11:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
Solus Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 453 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 18	ok i know there isnt a ball park figure for this yet but anyone know how much something like this would typically cost?

06-11-2009, 12:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
Phimosis Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oildale, CA Posts: 412 Drives: 2013 911 4S Rep Power: 418	My understanding is that the hp gain from ECU tuning is mostly from ignition advance. Having more ignition advance on a boosted engine at high rpm will give detonation, which destroys engines. So... You need a map with ignition advance when you're not under boost to maintain good power output, throttle response and fuel mileage. Then, under boost, retard the timing to prevent detonation. This makes tuning an ecu for boost a must.

06-11-2009, 05:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 916	Seriously guys... i cant wait for you to develop something that will net me close to 350+ whp w/ a carb number and a worry free warranty

06-11-2009, 07:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
ZforMe Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Memphis TN Posts: 238 Drives: 370Z Sport Auto PG Rep Power: 18	I'm hoping for 400+ to the wheels with hfc's, exhaust, & supercharger kit. __________________ 13.369 @ 102.73 Bone Stock. BERK HFC's installed 5/14/09 @ 1490miles, 13.212 @ 106.15. Cobb Post MAF Hoses installed 3/20/10 @ 5,043miles, future: FI exhaust with 18" res and s/s cans.

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Phimosis Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Oildale, CA Posts: 412 Drives: 2013 911 4S Rep Power: 418	When will we get our day? The VQ37VHR has been around as long as the LS3. Last edited by Phimosis; 06-16-2009 at 09:43 PM.