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Originally Posted by shumby RCZ still ball swinging i see. He had no problems with his, is there a reason he can't?

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Old 09-05-2010, 06:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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He had no problems with his, is there a reason he can't?
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He had no problems with his, is there a reason he can't?
No problems he told anyone about. Funny his is the only stillen SC that was 100% perfect out of the box with no issues.
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No problems he told anyone about. Funny his is the only stillen SC that was 100% perfect out of the box with no issues.
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No problems he told anyone about. Funny his is the only stillen SC that was 100% perfect out of the box with no issues.
RCZ got his tuned by an independent tuner that got it right the first time. Everyone else, except Lateral G'z, has used Stillen's tuning. Stillen had problems with their tuning in the beginning, but those issues have been resolved and you see people posting, saying their their cars are running great now.

So, what I'm predicting is that all the people that get their superchargers from Stillen from this point forward are going to have 100% perfect out of the box performance.
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Stillen had problems with their tuning in the beginning, but those issues have been resolved and you see people posting, saying their their cars are running great now.
I wish that were true because it sure is not true of mine. Still going back and forth with Stillen to get the tune sorted out.
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RCZ got his tuned by an independent tuner that got it right the first time. Everyone else, except Lateral G'z, has used Stillen's tuning. Stillen had problems with their tuning in the beginning, but those issues have been resolved and you see people posting, saying their their cars are running great now.

So, what I'm predicting is that all the people that get their superchargers from Stillen from this point forward are going to have 100% perfect out of the box performance.
So Stillens tuners arent as good as the independent ones out there? Kinda wierd. I would think Stillen could replicate an independent tune easy, so does that mean they are still trying things the independent ones arent?
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So Stillens tuners arent as good as the independent ones out there? Kinda wierd. I would think Stillen could replicate an independent tune easy, so does that mean they are still trying things the independent ones arent?
The version of the Uprev software they are using is different than what Uprev sells to the public. It's a locked down version that prevents the user from changing any parameters.

It's set up so Stillen can change anything they want, send you the tune, then prevent you changing settings, burning your engine up and then blaming them.

What I was told is that Uprev designed the software a few years ago, but then never brought it to market because the demand wasn't there. So, it had never been widescale tested in a public release. When Stillen implemented it, there were some factory settings that they weren't able to over-ride, like injector dwell time on hot start. Then add larger injectors with stock dwell time and your mix is way to rich at start up, causing the hot start difficulty. So Stillen's engineers were trying to work around road blocks in a product that is different than the user-tuneable Uprev, which is why Uprev sent a programmer and a tuner to Stillen for a week, to fix the problems that Stillen couldn't.

Regardless, the issues are fixed. Taking jabs at Stillen's abilities isn't really fair, when the finished product works well. Everyone's beta version of any product has problems. Yes, they did release it to the public before it was ready, but there is a benefit to that too: Widescale implementation increases the number of people that report problems to you, rather than just a few engineers. In turn, that accelerates your product delevopment. Having people like me on the forum bitching about how their supercharger didn't work right lit a fire under them to get it fixed, pronto. And they did..... if you call 4 weeks 'pronto'. :-)
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. And they did..... if you call 4 weeks 'pronto'. :-)
LOL, dude, try 10 weeks and still counting.
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The version of the Uprev software they are using is different than what Uprev sells to the public. It's a locked down version that prevents the user from changing any parameters.

It's set up so Stillen can change anything they want, send you the tune, then prevent you changing settings, burning your engine up and then blaming them.

What I was told is that Uprev designed the software a few years ago, but then never brought it to market because the demand wasn't there. So, it had never been widescale tested in a public release. When Stillen implemented it, there were some factory settings that they weren't able to over-ride, like injector dwell time on hot start. Then add larger injectors with stock dwell time and your mix is way to rich at start up, causing the hot start difficulty. So Stillen's engineers were trying to work around road blocks in a product that is different than the user-tuneable Uprev, which is why Uprev sent a programmer and a tuner to Stillen for a week, to fix the problems that Stillen couldn't.

Regardless, the issues are fixed. Taking jabs at Stillen's abilities isn't really fair, when the finished product works well. Everyone's beta version of any product has problems. Yes, they did release it to the public before it was ready, but there is a benefit to that too: Widescale implementation increases the number of people that report problems to you, rather than just a few engineers. In turn, that accelerates your product delevopment. Having people like me on the forum bitching about how their supercharger didn't work right lit a fire under them to get it fixed, pronto. And they did..... if you call 4 weeks 'pronto'. :-)
so all kits are fine now that were tuned by Stillen? thats good then. I understand the getting things done quickly as it was out and not right, but thats kinda bad too in that if they did that on purpose then they had peoples cars down for awhile and possibly hurt the cars, not to mention people paying a car note and not being able to drive them. That IMO is shady and would make me not want to deal with that company if they did that on purpose. I would understand if they said that to the ones that bought it first, then atleast they would know from the get go, but doing it and not saying it would be bad. I hope they didnt really do that on purpose. I am waiting for both kits to be out a while before I decide which one to get but honesty in book counts for alot. Makes me wonder what else they might be testing on the public with the kit.

So with the fixed tunes are they making the marketed numbers power wise and PSI wise?
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So with the fixed tunes are they making the marketed numbers power wise and PSI wise?
Planning on going to dyno once they finally fix mine....who knows when that will be.
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