I still don't see why the inner cooler would let go from this. IMO that is something that needs to be looked at.

they are ducking tails now it seems?

It is, I think that is his whole point, BTW Whiddles I don't remember were you still run "their ridiculous IMO" heat exchanger? Or did you follow me and upgrade it to take it off the radiator?

I ran it as it was installed via they're installer never modded

I put 18k on it maybe in 4 years never really did much after the SC

I would bet that's why, I'm not a engineer but to have a heat exchanger bolted to the radiator didn't seem like the best why to run that. Between the radiator getting hot , the trans cooler( If auto) and the heat exchanger being hot , How the hell can the fluid be cool? That was my first mod to the system, Didn't understand it from day one? No there's a handful of guys running the upgraded one

well if i stay with this kit ill look at the upgrade. can you send me a link?

Sure here man, If I go back to their kit first thing I'd buy again I wont even install their kit with theirs.

Air to Water Heat Exchanger

I really don't mean to be rude here or anything but you are posting information that is only going to be misleading the conversation and confusing people.

An O ring is in reference to the general shape of the gasket. The gasket is round...in the shape of an O...O rings can come in various finishes where the actual shape will vary. Sometimes the O ring is round:
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Other times the O ring has shoulders which make it square:
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A google images showed some different styles of O rings:
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Just like there can be such thing as a V6 or an inline 6. A V6 uses a V shaped block and inline 6 puts all the cylinders in a straight line.

Hey Kyle you and I have travelled this road before so well just agree to disagree , But misleading is saying this "The O rings included in the supercharger kit are square, not round" and not the fact that I posted pictures.

Just sounds like double talk to me. :/

I have also showed my ring to there ring and they are the same

Just to clarify, we're not ducking tail. As I mentioned earlier, my job duties and responsibilities keep me very busy and I am unable to sit on the forums and debate back and forth.

The simple facts are this:

1) This supercharger system was originally installed 4 years ago. As such, it is outside the warranty timeframe.

2) As we have never seen an intercooler fail on the VQ37 we offered to sell a new intercooler to Whiddles at a greatly reduced price.

3) Air to water intercoolers have been used for decades on everything from aftermarket supercharger systems to factory equipped vehicles and have proven to be a very reliable and efficient method of cooling the compressed air in a forced induction application.

4) From day one the STILLEN VQ37 intercooler has been a bar and plate design. Bar and plate intercoolers are more expensive than tube and fin however they are immensely stronger and more durable. It made sense to us to use a bar and plate intercooler on this application. The heat exchanger mounted up front uses a tube and fin design which is along the lines of a traditional radiator.

5) In reviewing the images that Whiddles has posted you can see that the images of the O rings installed in their grooves include a foreign substance which appears to be RTV silicone sealant. Subsequent images posted by Whiddles show the O rings with the silicone sealant removed and show what the O ring should look like. These images were posted by Whiddles and clearly speak for themselves. Using this RTV silicone caused the damage to the manifold. Hence the recommendation by our team to replace the manifold as it was clearly damaged.

I'm not quite sure what there is to disagree about. If you're wanting me to say that the groove machined in the casting is round then yes that's correct...That's why it's called an O ring. However the gasket or O ring that goes inside that round channel has a shoulder...which makes it a square O ring...I'm not trying to mislead anyone or "double talk".

Here is a store where you can buy square O rings...

New Products : The O-Ring Store - O-Rings, Seals, and Kits, We make getting O-Rings easy!

this is why we are here and I think you guys should look further into it was all

Seen a couple that have this. Looking into it as an option for myself as well

square vs round oring applies to the shape of the o ring cross section, a round o ring is a cirlce a square is molded as a square.

Hope this helps anyone here that might be confused.

The definition on an O-Ring is: "a gasket in the form of a ring with a circular cross section, typically made of pliable material, used to seal connections in pipes, tubes, etc."

Only time will tell if the intercooler failure is an anomaly or a "wear and tear" item. I hope it is not the latter.

Whiddles, did you use de-ionized water? Any other chemicals you put in the water mixture? Just curious, some people put additives to lower the boiling point. Maybe it's causing corrosion???

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My question is ok rtv on the o-ring sure but what in the hell dented your intercooler through the rear throttle opening? If the leak wasn't a bad solder job on the plates i would put money on the front of that core being f'ed up as the cause of the hydrolocking Hard to imagine that a core inside an alluminum manifold could get damaged any time other than during assembly. maybe it got banged while putting it in the manifold.

Edit: or is that just water? hard to tell. I would definitely figure out where that core was leaking from if it just cost you a motor.

the core is not dented its water pooring out as I had it hooked to the hose.
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just the water and water wetter which are the recommended via stillen I believe

so where did the core actually start leaking from?

the second row from the bottom you can see the water poor out.

GOD DAMN!!!! Why Diego! I was just getting over mine and thinking FI twins in 6 months or send my car now to AAM.

Haha! I can't get enough of this Supercharger, it's amazing everyday :)

WooowwwW

Your Car looks GREAT :tup::tup:

Is that powdercoated? Looks good!

Thought that was you, I downloaded the complete article. She looks awesome!!!

my kit is almost two months old and I love ripping on her on these countdy roads.

A super sexy G :tup::tup::tup:
Looks awesome

Thank you gentlemen :)

DAMN THAT looks good Diego!

How are the oil temps doing? Up 10-15 degrees?

I know my Oil temps didn't go up with the Frozenboost

The bumper on Diego's looks very functional. Different story for the 370z stock front bumper.

Is that a full front fascia including the splitter or is the splitter separate?
I have an '09 coupe with the sport bumper and IPL side sills :tup: and that splitter would sure look nice on mine !

Man your charge pipe looks amazing. That's powder coated right? Not some new option stillen is offering correct?