Indeed. My point: They dialed it back for a reason?

With computer software, companies give you software to beta test for free.

With F/I kits, companies knock a few hundred off and hype you into being part of their R&D process..

:iagree:

Right on.

Screw that! I think I'm going to wait a while before going F.I.

Don't let this thread persuade your decision, thats all I can say. There are others out there that are FI and are loving it.

I feel this thread is starting to loose it's meaning, as it turned into a battle between GTM and stillen while ether company said anything negative about each other. When doing something like this to a car you have to be a fool to believe that on first start up there won't be any problems. Companies try to account for correction of the variables but at times there can be to many. They are trying to correct the problem, lets sit back and give them a chance to do what they need to.
Frank

Nothing against Stillen or GTM..both great/reputable companies but yeah I'm going to wait a while and see how things pan out..that's just me.

Understandable and I respect that, honestly. Just seems this thread has started to drive down the wrong side of the road. I was just trying to prove a point of not to let this thread make the decision for you. Take it from the guy who installed a twin turbo kit in his garage on his back. Good luck when your ready to do it. If you do it your self it is a very intriguing experience
Frank

haha yeah I probably won't be doing this on my back in the garage any time soon..im sure Stillen is all over this issue and will find resolution soon..

Wow, I am sorry but that is the most retarded thing to say (whether you said it about Stillen or GTM).
First, many twin turbo kits have been on the market for a couple of years on the 3.7L engine and putting down more PSI and more power than either of these supecharger kits. Second, where do you even make this assumption from? Because Stillen is having a problem so therefore GTM is going to blow up engines?

:facepalm:

^^

Agreed :facepalm:


People really need to stop all the bashing...

Stillen has acknowledged the problems. They are not trying to hide from them. They seem to be working every well with everyone that is having an issue. Unfortunately in an online community such as this one we tend to think everything should be fixed over night, this is not reality. I don't think we have the right to start bashing these SPONSORS until they run away from problems and start ignoring members. All of which I highly doubt will happen from any of our sponsors…

Stillen and GTM have always been excellent to this forum, not only answer questions about their own products but also general enquires on other topics. I think as a member of this forum we should feel very lucky that any of these guys spend time on here helping us and answer questions


Just my opinion....

I'm just very interested in finding out exactly what is going on and why.

it's the fuel map, there's a nasty hole...that's why you're unloading in 3rd!

The results are in
 

These are the results from my dyno before and after the stillen supercharger. My mods include stillen cbe and berk hfc. Unless im reading this dyno wrong im short of the advertised gains by stillen by a long shot.

oh boy.

I'm sorry to say I agree.. They can't use the "its an auto" excuse or the "well on a dynojet" excuse. Maybe the numbers would look better if they knocked $1000 off the price.

Holy ****, I agree with you ;)

If Shumby is missing 50hp, this guy is missing 100 ;)

Are you using the CARB tune? What PSI are you hitting?

This tune isn't for a HFC setup!! We'll contact your shop..

wasnt my ecu rom sent to u before u shipped the kit?

^ That wasnt for custom tuning...that was just to be able to use the engine management with it....

Josh- will my numbers be like the ones u advertised after u send the third tune for my car?

dang this thread is turning ugly..well i hope all gets resolved..soon.

Damn, I am really considering pulling the shoot on my order. Though I am doing my own tune this kit and GTM seem to release to soon before having things complete figured out. This is rough and I think I will wait for HKS TT maybe.

Dreamer, don't read things out of context. PM to follow.

PM me too, I'd like to know, Steve. :mad:

(will give you rep) :yum:

Man I can't wait to hear what Josh/Kyle have to say... the suspense is killing me!!!

Smart move, Raul. Any thought to the rear end, half-shafts?

No big deal, Steve. My point was Stillen did the right thing. My point is FI puts a lot of stress on an engine. Maybe a new Mustang GT is built from the ground up to handle FI in the real world over time.. I'm not so sure about a VQ37, I think the jury's out. I certainly meant no offense to GTM, who have earned respect for their kit. Anyone dropping TT or SC in their car right now is a beta tester. That's all from me :tiphat:

your not the only one

I hope they have a response soon because its getting ugly in here.

I don't know why you would say that when we don't even know the true story from Stillen yet.

All we know is they backed off of their claims that they used to market/sell the product. I am really interested in what Josh/Kyle have to say.

All I know is that I hope Stillen is able to work something out with the customers who bought the product (and more importantly paid $XXXX thinking they were going to get what was marketed to them) to make the situation right.

Well I know you and Phimosis have a vested interest in this. I've got no skin in the game (yet) so I'm sure it's a lot easier on me.

Make no mistake, the new 5.0 wasn't designed to handle a lot of boost, much like the VQ37. The difference between the new Mustangs and our 370Z's, is the aftermarket support, engineering, and testing. After all, Vortech rose to fame through the Mustang platform. Guess who is supplying Stillen with their head unit?

I mean, look at the testing Ford is doing for their own supercharger kit. There's no doubt in my mind that this information will trickle throughout the aftermarket industry.

I wish NISSAN took the aftermarket more seriously ala FRPP and Ford.

I thought Ford beefed up the crank, connecting rods and godknows what, to handle a lot more power?

forged steel crank, forged powdered rods, and hyper pistons.

Stilllen has commented, I'm satisfied with their explanation so far. I have a feeling Stillen will do whatever is necessary to rectify any issues. That's the pattern I've seen for years.

The Z has 2 out of 3 of those :)