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The price also includes the oil cooler and exhaust install. But I also feel sick.
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IMHO Install rates should be closer to $1,000-$1,200 with an already relatively high $100/hr labor rate. EDIT: With oil cooler and exhaust it should be around $1,500. I would say that's a fair, normal shop price. I'm sure if you ship your car over to Jnaut down here in West Palm Beach it would still be less than that AND you would be getting it installed by someone who has already done it. (He installed my kit and made me a custom race oil cooler). Its an option to consider, the man has skills. Shoot him a PM if you are interested. Otherwise, yeah $1500 or a bit over that. |
Ok guys here is the reason for the expense.:shakes head:
remove fuel pump, front facial removed, uppper intake manifold removal drive belt mods, rewired, fuel injecter replaced transfer of parts, rerouting water line to intake mounting super charger abd plumbing all the rewiring and bleeding the system They are charging 95.88 an hour X 35 hours. WTF I told them to give me my car back. I am not paying that. i asked if they were guesstimating the hours and he said no that they looked up how much time it would take per item in hours to install and all the labor that goes with it. I just want you all to know I a trying to get it done at Pinehurst Nissan in NC. :mad: EDIT: The dealer is on the phone right now he called stillen and they are willing to still install it for 15 hours at 95.88 will run about 1538$ I just saved 2k for saying give me my car back. |
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Also, keep in mind that if you are getting the supercharger and your fascia is already off the car, that is the perfect time to have the oil cooler installed. The fascia is already off and ready to go so there is no point in paying an extra $100+ dollars later on for them to remove the fascia again. |
This past weekend I took our black 370Z to the Virginia City Spectre 341 Hill Climb. We have to put some miles on the car for our CARB testing and we figured it would be the best time to do it. Just thought some of you would like to know that I had EXCELLENT fuel milage on that trip. I did not keep track of my fuel milage on the way there for two reasons. 1) I didn't think I could make the complete 480 mile trip on one tank and 2) Honestly, I didn't even think about it until I got 3/4 of the way there!
I was about 3/4 of the way there and I noticed that my fuel tank only had a quarter tank of gas left, so I pulled into the gas station and filled up simply because I did not know the area and I did not know how long it would be before seeing another gas station with relatively inexpensive fuel. A couple hours later (it was a 9.5 hour trip on the way there as I was following Steve in the Armada towing our race trailer most the way.) we pulled into the Silverland Inn where the race was being held. I noticed that I had only used about a quarter tank of gas. So I thought to myself, on the way home, I'm going to try to make the whole trip in one tank. Around noon on Saturday we decided to pack up and head home. Steve had reported that the road had become slick (too hot) and he felt that he had gone as fast as he could go on the Bridgestones. We could have pushed harder with the optional Dunlops and probably picked up another 5-10 seconds but unfortunately Dunlop was out of stock so we were limited to the O.E. Bridgestones, sorry for the digression, I over explain sometimes. Before pulling out of the Silverland Hotel I grabbed the 5 gallon jug of 91 octane fuel and poured it into the tank of the Z. We had planned on mixing the 91 with the 109 that we were running in the GT R to extend the 109 a little bit and get a few more runs but with the road going away we did not need it anymore. When I got back in the car I noticed that the fuel lights were all lit and showing that the tank was full. Obviously I don't know exactly how full it was because there is the variable of the fuel tank however I do know that from Silverland to my local Chevron is EXACTLY 480 miles. I also know that I kept the cruise control locked on 70-72 MPH the whole way (only accelerating to pass slower traffic and accidentally cruising at 80 while on the 15 freeway and keeping up with the flow of traffic before noticing my speed and slowing back down) and only stopped twice to go to the bathroom, one of those times I left the engine running (I know, I know...) Along the trip down highway 395 you go through a few small towns and have to slow down to 35 MPH to crawl through the town before accelerating back up to highway speed (posted limit of 65.) Long story short, I made the entire trip home in 8 and a half hours exactly...Left at noon on the dot and arrived at the Chevron station at 8:30. This 480 mile trip was done on a single tank of gas. When I got to the Chevron station I filled up with 17.8 gallons of fuel. So, I basically did this trip with an average of 27 MPG. Here are a few pictures of the Z on the trip in Virginia City... http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...llclimb237.jpg http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...llclimb145.jpg And finally, a picture just to enjoy, Steve hustling the GT R around the hill... http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...llclimb269.jpg |
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So for those who called me out and said I was doing ricer math by saying 383 on a mustang is 430 on a dynojet. Here's my run for today. 100 degree ambient temperature and 30% Humidity.
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/t...5033Medium.jpg And this is SAE. I'll see if I can get the numbers for STD... EDIT: Just called the shop again, made 445/335 STD :) Made more power than advertised by Stillen w/ 35F hotter air temps. |
I think i made the right decision on kits.
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Very impressive numbers, congrats! I'm sure that kit really makes the Z come alive :)
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those are some good looking numbers
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I want to see these numbers laid against the GTM turbo kit with similiar power set-up too see where power differences would be on the RPM bands
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Cartek, dont tune it there. The only person I trust to tune my car is Jack from HPL.
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man my 08 G37 numbers are not bad either for being 5AT
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the manual. |
A few thoughts on power delivery with the S/C:
The stock vq37 starts coming in to it's power band between 2,500 and 3,000 rpm, Then holds a flat torque curve from 3,000-6,000 rpm before it starts falling off. The VQ37 with the Stillen S/C acts like stock from 2,500-3,000, where the torque is rapidly increasing, but then continues that linear increase in torque all the way to 4,000 rpm before then engine is fully "on". Then the torque curve is flat from 4,000-7,000 rpm before it starts to fall off. Overall, it's a very useable power band, being near peak torque for a 3,000 rpm range. The fat part is now a thousand rpm higher than N/A, but it's still making more power than the N/A engine everyhwere in the rev range. Compared to a larger displacement N/A engine, the downside is lower torque from 3-4k rpm, but that's only if the N/A engine has variable valve timing. Otherwise, the larger N/A engine will suffer the same problem. Compared to a turbo engine, the downside is lower torque until the turbo spools up, which would occur, when... 500-700 rpm earlier than the supercharger? |
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Just an FYI.. Over the past month we have shipped out many superchargers and have received great feedback from our customers on everything from the kit itself, the ease of installation, the quality of the components and the driving experience. However, we have also found there are variations in boost with some cars experiencing pressures higher than we are comfortable with.
As the reliability and longevity of our customers’ vehicles are our utmost concern, we are contacting all those that have been shipped the supercharger kit. These variances could be caused by differences in exhaust components, climate, elevation, etc. and we want to ensure their setup is within the proper boost levels. If any STILLEN Supercharger customers haven't gotten their communication, please contact us at 866-250-5542 or feel free to send me a PM. |
Glad to see good quality service:tup:
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I got an email about this, and it said something about being supplied a conservative tune to replace the existing tune. Where abouts would i be receiving this tune? How would i go upon replacing this tune with the current one?
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7 speed AT
Any info on the power output of the G-37 AWD 7-auto?
Any Guesses? Still waiting for my Stillen SC... |
willtangclan, PM sent..
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Josh@STILLEN,
I am starting to doubt how easy the SC is to install because my "Dealership sucks at life" When they first looked at it they were saying 35 hours. I posted on here and people helped me find how many hours it takes for a normal person so they dropped the price for install $2,000. From that point on I should of taken my car and ran but since I the closest shop that could do it is 2 hours away and my wife would not have a way home we opted for the closer shop. Now the reason for posting. The shop is having trouble with the install. They don't think the stillen oil cooler kit was built to work with the SC. Is this true or not? The shop tried to call but you were closed for the 5th. Also since the car is still there they are waiting on the new tune before they release the car. Do you know how long it will take or is it as easy as downloading a new tune from the net? With the new tune are we going to be seeing a big difference in DYNO numbers? If you are going safer then you would expect to lose some HP. Thanks |
wow thats the first!
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new tune is easy just a new file and then flash the ECM takes 10 mins max |
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Assuming they installed the kit right, you should be out of there in 15 minutes. |
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Do I need a boost gauge with the SC? If so is there any pictures out there with one installed I would like to see the placement of the gauge.
Thanks A quick note. My wife just got the car home. It looks great she had fun driving the car. The tech who worked on the car was worried that she could not drive the car home because of all the power. Good job Stillen she loves it. |
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get the Camp II systems from HKS it will do a boost gage and soooooo much more.
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