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wifedrivenZ 06-29-2010 09:40 AM

The price also includes the oil cooler and exhaust install. But I also feel sick.

Mike 06-29-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wifedrivenZ (Post 598415)
RCZ how long did it take for you to get your SC installed. The dealer is telling me 5 days and $3400. That sounds crazy to me. Let me know

thats ridiculous! I haven't installed one of these, but I did install the stillen charger on my 350Z and three Vortech supercharger kits on friends 350z/G35s in my home garage, and not one took over 12 hours. Add an hour and a half for the exhaust, and really no time for the oil cooler, since it will easily be installed while during the kit install, so 13.5 hours max.

RCZ 06-29-2010 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wifedrivenZ (Post 598415)
RCZ how long did it take for you to get your SC installed. The dealer is telling me 5 days and $3400. That sounds crazy to me. Let me know

I just asked my installer a couple days ago what he thought a fair install time would be for the kit and he said 10-12 hours. So you're paying like $260 an hour. That is assuming that the kit is the only thing you're installing.

IMHO Install rates should be closer to $1,000-$1,200 with an already relatively high $100/hr labor rate.

EDIT: With oil cooler and exhaust it should be around $1,500. I would say that's a fair, normal shop price. I'm sure if you ship your car over to Jnaut down here in West Palm Beach it would still be less than that AND you would be getting it installed by someone who has already done it. (He installed my kit and made me a custom race oil cooler). Its an option to consider, the man has skills. Shoot him a PM if you are interested. Otherwise, yeah $1500 or a bit over that.

wifedrivenZ 06-29-2010 10:58 AM

Ok guys here is the reason for the expense.:shakes head:
remove fuel pump, front facial removed, uppper intake manifold removal
drive belt mods, rewired, fuel injecter replaced
transfer of parts, rerouting water line to intake
mounting super charger abd plumbing
all the rewiring and bleeding the system
They are charging 95.88 an hour X 35 hours.
WTF I told them to give me my car back. I am not paying that.
i asked if they were guesstimating the hours and he said no that they looked up how much time it would take per item in hours to install and all the labor that goes with it. I just want you all to know I a trying to get it done at Pinehurst Nissan in NC. :mad:


EDIT: The dealer is on the phone right now he called stillen and they are willing to still install it for 15 hours at 95.88 will run about 1538$ I just saved 2k for saying give me my car back.

Red370 06-29-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wifedrivenZ (Post 598547)
Ok guys here is the reason for the expense.:shakes head:
remove fuel pump, front facial removed, uppper intake manifold removal
drive belt mods, rewired, fuel injecter replaced
transfer of parts, rerouting water line to intake
mounting super charger abd plumbing
all the rewiring and bleeding the system
They are charging 95.88 an hour X 35 hours.
WTF I told them to give me my car back. I am not paying that.
i asked if they were guesstimating the hours and he said no that they looked up how much time it would take per item in hours to install and all the labor that goes with it. I just want you all to know I a trying to get it done at Pinehurst Nissan in NC. :mad:

lmMFao:roflpuke2: 35 hours? douchebags. I almost want to call these guys and tell them how f'in tarded they are.

Phimosis 06-29-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wifedrivenZ (Post 598547)
Ok guys here is the reason for the expense.:shakes head:
remove fuel pump, front facial removed, uppper intake manifold removal
drive belt mods, rewired, fuel injecter replaced
transfer of parts, rerouting water line to intake
mounting super charger abd plumbing
all the rewiring and bleeding the system
They are charging 95.88 an hour X 35 hours.
WTF I told them to give me my car back. I am not paying that.
i asked if they were guesstimating the hours and he said no that they looked up how much time it would take per item in hours to install and all the labor that goes with it. I just want you all to know I a trying to get it done at Pinehurst Nissan in NC. :mad:

Stillen charged me $1,485 to install supercharger, clutch and lightened flywheel: 15 hours at $99/hour.

-Phim

Kyle@STILLEN 06-29-2010 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wifedrivenZ (Post 598547)
Ok guys here is the reason for the expense.:shakes head:
remove fuel pump, front facial removed, uppper intake manifold removal
drive belt mods, rewired, fuel injecter replaced
transfer of parts, rerouting water line to intake
mounting super charger abd plumbing
all the rewiring and bleeding the system
They are charging 95.88 an hour X 35 hours.
WTF I told them to give me my car back. I am not paying that.
i asked if they were guesstimating the hours and he said no that they looked up how much time it would take per item in hours to install and all the labor that goes with it. I just want you all to know I a trying to get it done at Pinehurst Nissan in NC. :mad:


EDIT: The dealer is on the phone right now he called stillen and they are willing to still install it for 15 hours at 95.88 will run about 1538$ I just saved 2k for saying give me my car back.

If a dealership goes line by line to see what it takes to do this work based off the Mitchell guide for the O.E. replacement parts then yes, it will be astronomical. However, it should not take longer than 10-12 hours like others have said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phimosis (Post 598608)
Stillen charged me $1,485 to install supercharger, clutch and lightened flywheel: 15 hours at $99/hour.

-Phim

We definitely have the advantage of installing a few of these already and we install clutches and flywheels practically daily so our techs are experienced enough to knock through the installs pretty quickly and we like to offer that savings to our customer's.

Also, keep in mind that if you are getting the supercharger and your fascia is already off the car, that is the perfect time to have the oil cooler installed. The fascia is already off and ready to go so there is no point in paying an extra $100+ dollars later on for them to remove the fascia again.

Kyle@STILLEN 06-29-2010 01:07 PM

This past weekend I took our black 370Z to the Virginia City Spectre 341 Hill Climb. We have to put some miles on the car for our CARB testing and we figured it would be the best time to do it. Just thought some of you would like to know that I had EXCELLENT fuel milage on that trip. I did not keep track of my fuel milage on the way there for two reasons. 1) I didn't think I could make the complete 480 mile trip on one tank and 2) Honestly, I didn't even think about it until I got 3/4 of the way there!

I was about 3/4 of the way there and I noticed that my fuel tank only had a quarter tank of gas left, so I pulled into the gas station and filled up simply because I did not know the area and I did not know how long it would be before seeing another gas station with relatively inexpensive fuel. A couple hours later (it was a 9.5 hour trip on the way there as I was following Steve in the Armada towing our race trailer most the way.) we pulled into the Silverland Inn where the race was being held. I noticed that I had only used about a quarter tank of gas. So I thought to myself, on the way home, I'm going to try to make the whole trip in one tank.

Around noon on Saturday we decided to pack up and head home. Steve had reported that the road had become slick (too hot) and he felt that he had gone as fast as he could go on the Bridgestones. We could have pushed harder with the optional Dunlops and probably picked up another 5-10 seconds but unfortunately Dunlop was out of stock so we were limited to the O.E. Bridgestones, sorry for the digression, I over explain sometimes.

Before pulling out of the Silverland Hotel I grabbed the 5 gallon jug of 91 octane fuel and poured it into the tank of the Z. We had planned on mixing the 91 with the 109 that we were running in the GT R to extend the 109 a little bit and get a few more runs but with the road going away we did not need it anymore. When I got back in the car I noticed that the fuel lights were all lit and showing that the tank was full. Obviously I don't know exactly how full it was because there is the variable of the fuel tank however I do know that from Silverland to my local Chevron is EXACTLY 480 miles. I also know that I kept the cruise control locked on 70-72 MPH the whole way (only accelerating to pass slower traffic and accidentally cruising at 80 while on the 15 freeway and keeping up with the flow of traffic before noticing my speed and slowing back down) and only stopped twice to go to the bathroom, one of those times I left the engine running (I know, I know...) Along the trip down highway 395 you go through a few small towns and have to slow down to 35 MPH to crawl through the town before accelerating back up to highway speed (posted limit of 65.) Long story short, I made the entire trip home in 8 and a half hours exactly...Left at noon on the dot and arrived at the Chevron station at 8:30. This 480 mile trip was done on a single tank of gas. When I got to the Chevron station I filled up with 17.8 gallons of fuel. So, I basically did this trip with an average of 27 MPG.

Here are a few pictures of the Z on the trip in Virginia City...
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...llclimb237.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...llclimb145.jpg

And finally, a picture just to enjoy, Steve hustling the GT R around the hill...
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...llclimb269.jpg

Red370 06-29-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 598699)
This past weekend I took our black 370Z to the Virginia City Spectre 341 Hill Climb. We have to put some miles on the car for our CARB testing and we figured it would be the best time to do it. Just thought some of you would like to know that I had EXCELLENT fuel milage on that trip. I did not keep track of my fuel milage on the way there for two reasons. 1) I didn't think I could make the complete 480 mile trip on one tank and 2) Honestly, I didn't even think about it until I got 3/4 of the way there!

I was about 3/4 of the way there and I noticed that my fuel tank only had a quarter tank of gas left, so I pulled into the gas station and filled up simply because I did not know the area and I did not know how long it would be before seeing another gas station with relatively inexpensive fuel. A couple hours later (it was a 9.5 hour trip on the way there as I was following Steve in the Armada towing our race trailer most the way.) we pulled into the Silverland Inn where the race was being held. I noticed that I had only used about a quarter tank of gas. So I thought to myself, on the way home, I'm going to try to make the whole trip in one tank.

Around noon on Saturday we decided to pack up and head home. Steve had reported that the road had become slick (too hot) and he felt that he had gone as fast as he could go on the Bridgestones. We could have pushed harder with the optional Dunlops and probably picked up another 5-10 seconds but unfortunately Dunlop was out of stock so we were limited to the O.E. Bridgestones, sorry for the digression, I over explain sometimes.

Before pulling out of the Silverland Hotel I grabbed the 5 gallon jug of 91 octane fuel and poured it into the tank of the Z. We had planned on mixing the 91 with the 109 that we were running in the GT R to extend the 109 a little bit and get a few more runs but with the road going away we did not need it anymore. When I got back in the car I noticed that the fuel lights were all lit and showing that the tank was full. Obviously I don't know exactly how full it was because there is the variable of the fuel tank however I do know that from Silverland to my local Chevron is EXACTLY 480 miles. I also know that I kept the cruise control locked on 70-72 MPH the whole way (only accelerating to pass slower traffic and accidentally cruising at 80 while on the 15 freeway and keeping up with the flow of traffic before noticing my speed and slowing back down) and only stopped twice to go to the bathroom, one of those times I left the engine running (I know, I know...) Along the trip down highway 395 you go through a few small towns and have to slow down to 35 MPH to crawl through the town before accelerating back up to highway speed (posted limit of 65.) Long story short, I made the entire trip home in 8 and a half hours exactly...Left at noon on the dot and arrived at the Chevron station at 8:30. This 480 mile trip was done on a single tank of gas. When I got to the Chevron station I filled up with 17.8 gallons of fuel. So, I basically did this trip with an average of 27 MPG.

Here are a few pictures of the Z on the trip in Virginia City...
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...llclimb237.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...llclimb145.jpg

Nice, I drove to Ohio from Texas and drove well beyond 500 miles between fill ups, pretty damn impressive with the G3's, HFC's, CBE and tune!

RCZ 06-29-2010 03:21 PM

So for those who called me out and said I was doing ricer math by saying 383 on a mustang is 430 on a dynojet. Here's my run for today. 100 degree ambient temperature and 30% Humidity.

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/t...5033Medium.jpg

And this is SAE. I'll see if I can get the numbers for STD...

EDIT: Just called the shop again, made 445/335 STD :) Made more power than advertised by Stillen w/ 35F hotter air temps.

tomnavone 06-29-2010 04:33 PM

I think i made the right decision on kits.

TBSS2008 06-29-2010 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 598890)
So for those who called me out and said I was doing ricer math by saying 383 on a mustang is 430 on a dynojet. Here's my run for today. 100 degree ambient temperature and 30% Humidity.

And this is SAE. I'll see if I can get the numbers for STD...

EDIT: Just called the shop again, made 445/335 STD :) Made more power than advertised by Stillen w/ 35F hotter air temps.

Very impressive dynojet numbers! :tup:

Chris@FsP 06-29-2010 04:46 PM

Very impressive numbers, congrats! I'm sure that kit really makes the Z come alive :)

CGMobile370Z 06-29-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 598890)
So for those who called me out and said I was doing ricer math by saying 383 on a mustang is 430 on a dynojet. Here's my run for today. 100 degree ambient temperature and 30% Humidity.

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/t...5033Medium.jpg

And this is SAE. I'll see if I can get the numbers for STD...

EDIT: Just called the shop again, made 445/335 STD :) Made more power than advertised by Stillen w/ 35F hotter air temps.

Where did you do the dyno at? I live in Miami and i'm currently waiting on the GTM S/C kit I ordered for my 08 Infiniti G35S 5AT, also looking for a good Uprev tuner for the dyno tuning.

LateralG'z 06-29-2010 06:58 PM

those are some good looking numbers

LateralG'z 06-29-2010 07:00 PM

I want to see these numbers laid against the GTM turbo kit with similiar power set-up too see where power differences would be on the RPM bands

RCZ 06-29-2010 07:44 PM

Cartek, dont tune it there. The only person I trust to tune my car is Jack from HPL.

CGMobile370Z 06-29-2010 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 599309)
Cartek, dont tune it there. The only person I trust to tune my car is Jack from HPL.

Thanks, horse power logic was who I was going to contact for tuning and it's definitely reassuring to have someone recommend them.

whiddles 06-29-2010 11:52 PM

man my 08 G37 numbers are not bad either for being 5AT

CGMobile370Z 06-30-2010 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiddles (Post 599583)
man my 08 G37 numbers are not bad either for being 5AT

What were your final numbers? I have the 5AT on my 08 G35S and I'm curious how much power dropoff there is between the automatic and
the manual.

Phimosis 07-01-2010 01:41 PM

A few thoughts on power delivery with the S/C:

The stock vq37 starts coming in to it's power band between 2,500 and 3,000 rpm, Then holds a flat torque curve from 3,000-6,000 rpm before it starts falling off.

The VQ37 with the Stillen S/C acts like stock from 2,500-3,000, where the torque is rapidly increasing, but then continues that linear increase in torque all the way to 4,000 rpm before then engine is fully "on". Then the torque curve is flat from 4,000-7,000 rpm before it starts to fall off.

Overall, it's a very useable power band, being near peak torque for a 3,000 rpm range. The fat part is now a thousand rpm higher than N/A, but it's still making more power than the N/A engine everyhwere in the rev range.

Compared to a larger displacement N/A engine, the downside is lower torque from 3-4k rpm, but that's only if the N/A engine has variable valve timing. Otherwise, the larger N/A engine will suffer the same problem. Compared to a turbo engine, the downside is lower torque until the turbo spools up, which would occur, when... 500-700 rpm earlier than the supercharger?

whiddles 07-01-2010 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CGMobile370Z (Post 600716)
What were your final numbers? I have the 5AT on my 08 G35S and I'm curious how much power dropoff there is between the automatic and
the manual.

im at 400whp and around 300 torque

CGMobile370Z 07-01-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiddles (Post 601938)
im at 400whp and around 300 torque

So the automatic loses 30 to 40 WHP, that's not bad. 400WHP daily driver kicks ***, that torque level should be easier on the auto trans. 2009 infiniti Q56 5AT is rated at 395 ft/lbs torque at the crank, I know the transmissions are not identical but they are both RE5R05A. I hope my trans will hold up well, I think the shift kit will help alot.

Josh@STILLEN 07-01-2010 09:14 PM

Just an FYI.. Over the past month we have shipped out many superchargers and have received great feedback from our customers on everything from the kit itself, the ease of installation, the quality of the components and the driving experience. However, we have also found there are variations in boost with some cars experiencing pressures higher than we are comfortable with.

As the reliability and longevity of our customers’ vehicles are our utmost concern, we are contacting all those that have been shipped the supercharger kit. These variances could be caused by differences in exhaust components, climate, elevation, etc. and we want to ensure their setup is within the proper boost levels.

If any STILLEN Supercharger customers haven't gotten their communication, please contact us at 866-250-5542 or feel free to send me a PM.

LateralG'z 07-01-2010 09:21 PM

Glad to see good quality service:tup:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 602406)
Just an FYI.. Over the past month we have shipped out many superchargers and have received great feedback from our customers on everything from the kit itself, the ease of installation, the quality of the components and the driving experience. However, we have also found there are variations in boost with some cars experiencing pressures higher than we are comfortable with.

As the reliability and longevity of our customers’ vehicles are our utmost concern, we are contacting all those that have been shipped the supercharger kit. These variances could be caused by differences in exhaust components, climate, elevation, etc. and we want to ensure their setup is within the proper boost levels.

If any STILLEN Supercharger customers haven't gotten their communication, please contact us at 866-250-5542 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting**************866-250-5542******end_of_the_skype_highlighting or feel free to send me a PM.


cotizi 07-01-2010 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiddles (Post 601938)
im at 400whp and around 300 torque

Saw a blue g37s with a stillen supercharger installed at Uprev today when I dropped my car off. Jared was showing me it for abit.. That yours?

willtangclan 07-02-2010 12:57 AM

I got an email about this, and it said something about being supplied a conservative tune to replace the existing tune. Where abouts would i be receiving this tune? How would i go upon replacing this tune with the current one?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 602406)
Just an FYI.. Over the past month we have shipped out many superchargers and have received great feedback from our customers on everything from the kit itself, the ease of installation, the quality of the components and the driving experience. However, we have also found there are variations in boost with some cars experiencing pressures higher than we are comfortable with.

As the reliability and longevity of our customers’ vehicles are our utmost concern, we are contacting all those that have been shipped the supercharger kit. These variances could be caused by differences in exhaust components, climate, elevation, etc. and we want to ensure their setup is within the proper boost levels.

If any STILLEN Supercharger customers haven't gotten their communication, please contact us at 866-250-5542 or feel free to send me a PM.


snipes 07-02-2010 09:44 AM

7 speed AT
 
Any info on the power output of the G-37 AWD 7-auto?
Any Guesses?

Still waiting for my Stillen SC...

Josh@STILLEN 07-02-2010 09:47 AM

willtangclan, PM sent..

Rhett 07-04-2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 602923)
willtangclan, PM sent..

Hi, Josh, This is totally another question. Can I buy the Stillen G3 intake with applying July 5% off coupon?

Josh@STILLEN 07-04-2010 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhett (Post 606761)
Hi, Josh, This is totally another question. Can I buy the Stillen G3 intake with applying July 5% off coupon?

Yes.. absolutely.. just use the coupon code when checking out, it will be applied after we receive the order, but before your card is charged..

wifedrivenZ 07-06-2010 12:44 AM

Josh@STILLEN,
I am starting to doubt how easy the SC is to install because my "Dealership sucks at life" When they first looked at it they were saying 35 hours. I posted on here and people helped me find how many hours it takes for a normal person so they dropped the price for install $2,000. From that point on I should of taken my car and ran but since I the closest shop that could do it is 2 hours away and my wife would not have a way home we opted for the closer shop. Now the reason for posting.
The shop is having trouble with the install. They don't think the stillen oil cooler kit was built to work with the SC. Is this true or not? The shop tried to call but you were closed for the 5th. Also since the car is still there they are waiting on the new tune before they release the car. Do you know how long it will take or is it as easy as downloading a new tune from the net? With the new tune are we going to be seeing a big difference in DYNO numbers? If you are going safer then you would expect to lose some HP.
Thanks

Jamaica 07-06-2010 12:51 AM

wow thats the first!

shumby 07-06-2010 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wifedrivenZ (Post 608086)
Josh@STILLEN,
I am starting to doubt how easy the SC is to install because my "Dealership sucks at life" When they first looked at it they were saying 35 hours. I posted on here and people helped me find how many hours it takes for a normal person so they dropped the price for install $2,000. From that point on I should of taken my car and ran but since I the closest shop that could do it is 2 hours away and my wife would not have a way home we opted for the closer shop. Now the reason for posting.
The shop is having trouble with the install. They don't think the stillen oil cooler kit was built to work with the SC. Is this true or not? The shop tried to call but you were closed for the 5th. Also since the car is still there they are waiting on the new tune before they release the car. Do you know how long it will take or is it as easy as downloading a new tune from the net? With the new tune are we going to be seeing a big difference in DYNO numbers? If you are going safer then you would expect to lose some HP.
Thanks


new tune is easy just a new file and then flash the ECM takes 10 mins max

RCZ 07-06-2010 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shumby (Post 608115)
new tune is easy just a new file and then flash the ECM takes 10 mins max

Exactly.

Assuming they installed the kit right, you should be out of there in 15 minutes.

Josh@STILLEN 07-06-2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wifedrivenZ (Post 608086)
Josh@STILLEN,
I am starting to doubt how easy the SC is to install because my "Dealership sucks at life" When they first looked at it they were saying 35 hours. I posted on here and people helped me find how many hours it takes for a normal person so they dropped the price for install $2,000. From that point on I should of taken my car and ran but since I the closest shop that could do it is 2 hours away and my wife would not have a way home we opted for the closer shop. Now the reason for posting.
The shop is having trouble with the install. They don't think the stillen oil cooler kit was built to work with the SC. Is this true or not? The shop tried to call but you were closed for the 5th. Also since the car is still there they are waiting on the new tune before they release the car. Do you know how long it will take or is it as easy as downloading a new tune from the net? With the new tune are we going to be seeing a big difference in DYNO numbers? If you are going safer then you would expect to lose some HP.
Thanks

PM sent..

wifedrivenZ 07-09-2010 07:09 PM

Do I need a boost gauge with the SC? If so is there any pictures out there with one installed I would like to see the placement of the gauge.
Thanks

A quick note. My wife just got the car home. It looks great she had fun driving the car. The tech who worked on the car was worried that she could not drive the car home because of all the power. Good job Stillen she loves it.

Zsteve 07-09-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wifedrivenZ (Post 614659)
Do I need a boost gauge with the SC? If so is there any pictures out there with one installed I would like to see the placement of the gauge.
Thanks

A quick note. My wife just got the car home. It looks great she had fun driving the car. The tech who worked on the car was worried that she could not drive the car home because of all the power. Good job Stillen she loves it.

So the wife gets the SC Z? You better have a Bugatti or something then.

LateralG'z 07-09-2010 08:20 PM

:iagree:

shumby 07-09-2010 09:07 PM

get the Camp II systems from HKS it will do a boost gage and soooooo much more.


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