Its not for me, I am just saying. That last thing I read, was someone actually got the new tune and his car was still running oddly.

I hope they get this fixed, b/c we are getting real interested in it, and we need something that attracts a little attention to the car at shows. THe gtm is just way to hidden, and I am sure like I would be, if I spend my money I wanna see what I spent my money on everytime I open the hood

Not sure I follow? So your at a show, and all you want is this massive chrome housing under the hood? So a twin turbo setup would be worse at a show? A show is just that, SHOW...not go. Most are trailer queens and/or gaudy body kit conventions.

How about this...

-People will see that massive FMIC (if you want), which yours wont have.
-You can put a nice info board next to the car which immidiatly catches people's eye for being something that 'looks' important.
-From reports it sounds like you can most definitly 'hear' GTMs charger/valve which would get people pondering.

So ya, its kind of a lame excuse. The fact is GTM is a fab house style company that gives one-off style type quality in their products. This is also one of those cases where your not getting what you paid for, where as your getting more so from GTM. Stillen at this point just feels like an APC style company where its just about getting to market as quickly as possible for mass production. Two very different strategies.

Good luck.

SurelyTurbosInduceLessLeadtimeEveryoneNo!!!!!!!!

got a dyno set up for tomorrow...after hearing two people do bad on this dyno. i am expecting the worse...so much drama in this thread. I am happy that my car is running fine but when i view this thread i am just SMH the whole time.

Ya the visuall diferances between the 2 kits is huge. If you want to have all your engine mods in your face then Stillen is the way to go. I personally wanted the stelth look. I even managed to get it accross the border without paying duty on it. although i drove really slow to and from the customs booth. lol


But the looks of the 2 kits is subjective. The real issues lies in the quality and delivering what was advertized. As far as I can see Stillen has not produced the numbers they advertized. And seeing as this kit is out for about a year now i would think the tune should be fine tuned by now.

I have been to both shops and I definatly get the feeling that stillen thinks they are bigger and better. I even showed them the CF stearing wheel cover Danny made for the G37b and they just sort of laughed at it like why is a guy so small even making this. I was not the only one that got hat impression my dad did too.

I hope that stillen is working hard on this tune still and gets it right for you guys. I just hope they have not said screw it and moved on to the next project they can make money on

huh?:confused:

^^^ ?????

he's huh"ing you when you said their kit has been out for nearly a year. fact is it's only been officially out since late June early July.

well their HP clanmes and test car is what i am talking about. Sorry i see i was a bit unclear

What are you doing in here Captain Canuck, lol :stirthepot:

keeping it civil and too the facts

Has anyone checked the local hospitals? I hope Kyle is ok - we just haven't heard from him in so long, I'm concerned.

Come on its only been a month. :shakes head:

Stillen is Still en denial. :icon17:

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to jump in here real quick and let everyone know what's happening.

As we have said many times, we are working directly with our customer's to get their vehicle's squared away. For the most part, the customer's have been extremely patient and cooperative and we really appreciate their efforts and desire to work with us. We want to work directly with the customer's because we have seen some cases where the issues were caused by the installer of the kit. For example, one company chose to install the kit using materials that we did not supply. This caused issues that could not be traced until the car was sent to another shop. The kit itself was perfect, the shop doing the installation chose to do something on their own, and it caused some headaches.

Additionally we know that the most important thing to us is that our customer's are satisfied. As you have seen, any vehicle that was having an issue and we were able to correct, the customer has come back on and said how happy they are with their car. That is all that matters to us. Also, there have been other customer's who did not experience any issues at all. The kit went on exactly as it should, and worked flawlessly from day one.

Where does it all stand now?

Weiboy and Tomnavone have both reported similar experiences. So, this past weekend, I personally flew up to San Francisco and picked up Weiboy's car and drove back to our shop. Our engineers are currently working on this car.

Also on Saturday we had a customer's vehicle picked up and delivered to UPrev. UPrev will be inspecting that car thoroughly, through the installation, and the tune. This car is experiencing the same symptoms as the car owned by forum member Osiris. Those are the only four cars that we know of with unresolved issues.

Unfortunately the internet forums make it look like basically everyone who ordered their kit experienced a problem. The truth is, out of all of the kits we have sold we have only had a few issues. Some of them were not related to the kit, or the tune. They were 100% the installation. The majority of the issues have been resolved, and the remaining cars are currently being inspected and finalized now.

In regards to STILLEN rushing something to the market. That could not be further from the truth. During our testing and development we used a lot of different vehicle's. We did the initial development on the red Momo G37. Then we switched our prototype kit to our silver G37. Then we installed a kit on our red 370Z. Then we installed kits on two production 370Z's, one auto and one manual. Actually, G37mobbin wanted us to ship his kit to his installer but, because he owns a G37 sedan, we told him that we would not ship the kit until we had done the installation ourselves. I personally have put thousands of miles on our test cars. Steve has also put thousands of miles on the test cars. Anyone who was at Zcon in Tennessee saw Steve and I take our red 370 out on the track and blast it around in weather that was INSANE!!! 95 degrees with 110% humidity. The car performed flawlessly the whole time.