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LateralG'z 08-25-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris@FsP (Post 694811)
Yeah, the car was heat soaked really bad by that point, and the dyno shops fan system leaves much to be desired :icon17:

Lack there of and kept shutting down. Next month for some new pulls

OKC370Z 08-26-2010 06:36 AM

Torque is way off
 
I just noticed looking at everyone's dyno charts that those that posted before runs and/or if compared to other's stock pulls, that Stillens dyno results show an increase in torque almost twice as much as those that have the kits. I wonder why that is?

Even those with custom tunes are not realizing as much gain in the torque numbers. :confused:

whiddles 08-26-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris@FsP (Post 694807)
9+ psi? What pulley do you have?

LOL this was the stock pully that came with it. I have not changed it. Stillen was thinking its caused by my MXP exhaust is more restrictive than the stock exhaust. I really dont think so but im by no means a expert

Zsteve 08-26-2010 06:33 PM

hope you guys get it all worked out.

Phimosis 08-26-2010 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wifedrivenZ (Post 692452)
Before I put the car on the Dyno I called Stillen and asked what the AFR target was and they came back with 11.5 You will not see that number even come close. The car is running very rich per the Stillen tune.

This is what I've been saying all along. At throttle tip in, your torque actually drops. That's where it's plummeting from 15 to 9:1 a/f ratio. On my car, it wasn't until 3,000 rpm when the supercharged engine was equal to the N/A engine in power output. That goes along with where the A/F ratio starts to get into the right range.

They have a new tune now that should improve the A/F ratio, as well as them having UpRev at their facility this week for more fine tuning.

I got an email from Kyle where he said (in summary) that they had some bits of data that they weren't able to override because they couldn't figure out where the instructions were coming from in the code, and that is why they had UpRev come out to them. He said they have the tuning done and now are working on the hot startability. -- although I had the problem hot and cold, where overnight (cold) is 80F.

Hopefully answers will come tomorrow?

Phimosis 08-26-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitex (Post 693705)
Meh i posted my own, with factory tune... and the difference is less and 70hp and 50 tq (even less when uprev tuned). However, as others have stated this is not the way to compare. Really the only one i know that would have all 3 would be someone like RCZ. He has, baseline dyno, bolt on dyno and SC dyno.

If this was a valid comparison, i would have to say 70hp and 50tq is a lot! especially on a mustang dyno. Im just not convinced its price to power ratio is were i want it to be. If i was a pure baller, throwing hundies in the air cause i can. Then maybe..


I posted my before and after Supercharger dyno in this thread, post #976. Here's the dyno:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k3...tt/photo-5.jpg

I post my before and after bolt-ons on a thread in the tuning section, because I had my car tuned by technosquare and posted it to show people how the Z does with an 8,100 rpm redline. Dyno charts are in the thread (June 09) I gained 27 hp with g3 intakes, headers, cats, exhaust (stock tune). I gained 42 hp total over baseline with bolt-ons and tuning. The baseline run on the before/after supercharger was with the ECU set back to stock tune. The super charger added 108 hp and that 108 hp gain is very real and you will never, ever come close to that with bolt-ons.

It wasn't however, as much as Stillen advertised with their press car, so I forced the issue and took my car back. Unless Kyle comes up with a "the sky is falling" story, My car should be done tomorrow or next week at the latest.

whiddles 08-26-2010 09:32 PM

i want more than 400 to the wheels as well. :(

christian370z 08-26-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis (Post 696267)
I post my before and after bolt-ons on a thread in the tuning section, because I had my car tuned by technosquare and posted it to show people how the Z does with an 8,100 rpm redline. Dyno charts are in the thread (June 09) I gained 27 hp with g3 intakes, headers, cats, exhaust (stock tune). I gained 42 hp total over baseline with bolt-ons and tuning. The baseline run on the before/after supercharger was with the ECU set back to stock tune. The super charger added 108 hp and that 108 hp gain is very real and you will never, ever come close to that with bolt-ons.

I saw your car on the dyno when I stopped by Stillen a few weeks ago, what a gorgeous car. How did your raised rev limit work out? I have been told that 8,000rpm is plenty safe for this motor, but would not want to press my luck if it is not.

NYBladeZ 08-27-2010 03:20 PM

8000rpms shouldn't be a problem especially if you aren't taking it to the limit all the time.

This has been one of the biggest up and down threads on the forum. It was all great when Stillen did their press release, then the tunes all stopped working save a few. Then it looked like RCZ and his custom tune with some supporting mods made 450whp on a dynojet bringing back some enthusiasm and now it looks like many of you aren't event hitting the advertised dynojet numbers. This seems almost like false advertising to me. It shouldn't take a custom tune and a plethora of supporting exhaust mods and drivetrain mods reach the advertised power. Stillen should have been more honest or at least waited until they had done a few installs to see if they could meet their own expectations. I guess we'll have to stamp this as incomplete as the fall rolls on in.

LiquidZ 08-27-2010 06:06 PM

I still can't get past the fact Stillen is having These issues with all of this "extensive" testing they did...

christian370z 08-27-2010 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 697473)
I still can't get past the fact Stillen is having These issues with all of this "extensive" testing they did...

This highlights the issues with testing on only one or two Stillen owned cars before releasing the kit. Since each car is slightly different, a setup can work perfectly on their 'guinea pig' but can act totally different on another car. The problem is that bugs like this tend to come out once customer cars come into play. :shakes head:

Q8y_drifter 08-27-2010 07:19 PM

man if GTM's kit does not make the advertised power (torque especially, I don't care as much about the whp) then the hell with this I'm gonna save up some more and go TT.

Kastley85891 08-28-2010 04:13 PM

^You know it...... Bam!

JB-370z 08-29-2010 11:26 AM

hahaha TT FTW. I think SC will pan out soon.

G37Sam 08-29-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter (Post 697561)
man if GTM's kit does not make the advertised power (torque especially, I don't care as much about the whp) then the hell with this I'm gonna save up some more and go TT.

Well some of the TQ the SC kit makes goes to power it.. which sucks really lol


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