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Gray Goose 08-05-2019 02:49 PM

BRD Turbo build
 
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So, my son and I have finished up the new race shop and will start ordering parts this week. Boosted Performance Kit and Admin Tuning.

I will keep a journal with pics and hopefully some video links as well.

If you guys think of any must haves for this build....please let me know!

Updated Parts list 01-10-2020:

Boosted Performance Turbo Kit
-COMP 6467 900hp twin scroll, triple ceramic ball bearing turbo, T4 1.15 a/r turbine housing
-Large vertical flow intercooler (25”x9”x3.5” core)
-Tial Q Blow Off Valve
-Tial MV-S waste gates
-3" charge pipes to TB
-3” 304 stainless down pipe
-Tig welded, polished, aluminum inter cooler piping
-30 row oil cooler kit with Mocal thermostat
-Stainless braid oil cooler lines for oil cooler
-GTR spark plugs (gapped)
-304 stainless steel tig welded exhaust manifold
-304 stainless brackets and hardware
-Crack case breather filter
**Powder Coat all Charge Pipes and Inter-cooler

Other Parts:
450 LPH Fuel Pump
Fuel Pump relay and wiring
CJ Motorsports' S1 SE Fuel Return
billet fuel assembly top hat
Injector Dynamics ID1300x
MAC Boost Solenoid
4 Bar MAF Sensor
R888r 305-30-ZR19 rear
SPEC Twin Disc Clutch
Z1 Solid Diff Mounts
Z1 Solid Engine Mounts
Z1 Urethane Trans Mounts
Tein Flex Z coilovers
Kinetix Racing Front Camber Adjustable Upper Arms
Kinetix Rear Camber/Traction Package
Whiteline Front and rear adjustable sway bar links
SPC Toe Bolts
Stillen SHort Throw Shifter
MTEC Shifter Springs
Custom Machined Shift Knob
Brainiac Tablet Kit
ECUTEC Blue Tooth Kit

Tuning:
Moncef at Admin Tuning
Gorilla Race (for suspension tuning)


Baselines:
284 HP (Mustang Dyno)
241 TQ (Damn Mustang Dyno)
14.58 1/4 mile @ 99.9 MPH
2.288 second 60 foot (best time)

Post Build: (E85 octane)
628 HP
511 TQ
12.3 1/4 mile @ 124 MPH
2.1 second 60 foot


Engine Failure:


Lost ring 2 and blew out the bottom of the piston in cylinder 4
Made 10 quarter mile passes and about 500 miles on build.


Reason behind failure:
Head lift was pushing coolant from day 1 of the build



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TopgunZ 08-05-2019 03:19 PM

This takes doing it right the first time to a whole new level. Should be a great build.

Gray Goose 08-05-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3871130)
This takes doing it right the first time to a whole new level. Should be a great build.

Thanks, I'm a picky SOB when i comes to building things!

GrayGhost 08-05-2019 03:51 PM

This depresses me when i look at the state of my own garage.

Thats cool what you did with the wood on top of the coating. What did you do to smooth out that transition and prevent the floor from coming up?


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Gray Goose 08-05-2019 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost (Post 3871133)
This depresses me when i look at the state of my own garage.

Thats cool what you did with the wood on top of the coating. What did you do to smooth out that transition and prevent the floor from coming up?


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I used Cortec flooring. It is water proof, and doesn't expand or contract. It also has the backing built on it. So it doesn't pop up. Just the weight of the floor keeps it down with no problems rolling chairs or other things on and off it.

phunk 08-06-2019 03:22 AM

Here we have a fine example of the correct personality type for a turbo 370z build.

jchammond 08-06-2019 03:39 AM

Don’t forget about dual “Line-Loc” solenoids. :tup:

madwi 08-06-2019 03:39 AM

May I make suggestion? Slave a second monitor/tv under that big one. Low enough to watch Youtube vids/whatever while under the lift. :tup:

Gray Goose 08-06-2019 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3871203)
May I make suggestion? Slave a second monitor/tv under that big one. Low enough to watch Youtube vids/whatever while under the lift. :tup:

Not a bad idea, I do have several 32" that are just sitting in the attic:iagree:

mults 08-06-2019 10:49 AM

Don't see a "beverage cooling station"...maybe a future mod?

Very jealous and nice job BTW...

Senna-F1 08-06-2019 12:25 PM

I have similar goal but with SC. I noticed your 1300cc injectors with 340 lph pump. Are you going to run e85? I will be running smaller injectors, but larger pump. 1050 / 450 for mine. I just wonder if that pump will be the right one, especially since you have a turbo that’s capable of a lot more. Either way, good luck man!!

Gray Goose 08-06-2019 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mults (Post 3871263)
Don't see a "beverage cooling station"...maybe a future mod?

Very jealous and nice job BTW...

:icon18: Ice box in the back left corner :hello: behind the lift pump

Hold a 24 pack of Miller Lite with no issues!

Gray Goose 08-06-2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Senna-F1 (Post 3871268)
I have similar goal but with SC. I noticed your 1300cc injectors with 340 lph pump. Are you going to run e85? I will be running smaller injectors, but larger pump. 1050 / 450 for mine. I just wonder if that pump will be the right one, especially since you have a turbo that’s capable of a lot more. Either way, good luck man!!

Those fuel system parts are what Moncef at Admin Tuning recommended. I spoke with him about my goals and what turbo set up I was going with and those parts are what he suggested.

He is very good with our VQs, from what I hear, and that is what he want in the car to do his tuning. So that is what I will give him :tup::driving:

I might try to figure out a way to get E85 and set up a tune for it. I just do not have any local stations that have it.

"Z"en 08-06-2019 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gray Goose (Post 3871274)
Those fuel system parts are what Moncef at Admin Tuning recommended. I spoke with him about my goals and what turbo set up I was going with and those parts are what he suggested.

He is very good with our VQs, from what I hear, and that is what he want in the car to do his tuning. So that is what I will give him :tup::driving:

I might try to figure out a way to get E85 and set up a tune for it. I just do not have any local stations that have it.

You'll need bigger pump when using E85.

Gray Goose 08-06-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by "Z"en (Post 3871277)
You'll need bigger pump when using E85.

My original plan was 93 octane pump gas only. I will make sure to tell him about my thoughts on E85, before he sends me the parts.

mults 08-06-2019 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gray Goose (Post 3871272)
:icon18: Ice box in the back left corner :hello: behind the lift pump

Hold a 24 pack of Miller Lite with no issues!

With the level of detail you put into this setup, I was hoping I just missed it.

JARblue 08-06-2019 02:51 PM

Can I ask what lift you have there? I like the 4 post full length ramp style. Looks like it will fit in a low ceiling scenario also :tup:

Gray Goose 08-06-2019 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3871285)
Can I ask what lift you have there? I like the 4 post full length ramp style. Looks like it will fit in a low ceiling scenario also :tup:

I have 9 foot ceilings in my garage and this gives me enough room to work on my roll around stool very comfortably!


https://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com...-p/nw-4-8k.htm

solidus 08-06-2019 06:04 PM

I would advise you like someone else earlier. Regardless of going E85 later or not, go with the 450 pump. The best thing for you is that you have that lift at the house. If you had every box stacked in a corner you and your son could start on a Friday and be running base map log runs Sunday afternoon. Also consider the filter relocation that Sasha came up with. It's easier on a new build because you probably won't mind taking the passenger header off to install the motor mount. You'll thank yourself the first time you have to clean a filter.

Jinxx 08-06-2019 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gray Goose (Post 3871280)
My original plan was 93 octane pump gas only. I will make sure to tell him about my thoughts on E85, before he sends me the parts.

I went with methanol injection due to lack of e85 locations ...you could look into that as well

"Z"en 08-07-2019 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gray Goose (Post 3871280)
My original plan was 93 octane pump gas only. I will make sure to tell him about my thoughts on E85, before he sends me the parts.

You may either purchase a bigger one or have CJ's twin pump and run a staggered setup like mine. This allows you to activate your second pump when changing fuel to E. The advantage is car won't run rich as compared with using too much bigger single fuel pump to run pure gas. Since you have't got it so why not doing it once for all? You won't need to spend twice in replacing it with a bigger one or twin pump if you decide to run E85 in the future IMO.

I have run meth inject, octane booster, and E so I have four maps in my car right now. I have to tell you that the problem with meth inject is it may fail and your tuning becomes no longer reliable under the circumstances. Using octane booster such as Torco or Race Gas is another way to go if you can't find any close stations supplying E. Based on the results I got in my car, going the E route is the best.

soill370z 08-07-2019 03:06 AM

yeah for 500+hp stock block go e85 for sure, much safer

Jinxx 08-07-2019 11:59 AM

As with anything there is potential for a failure... I run the meth with a solenoid connected to my AFR gauge ... if it hits a lean condition it opens the wastegates to drop boost down to below meth kicks in...I also do regular inspection to it and try to catch any issues before hand ... but that should be done with any boosted Z ....... that’s probably about as safe as you can make it

Gray Goose 08-09-2019 09:25 PM

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Put in the Brainiac tablet kit, Stillen short throw shifter, shifter cup, and MTEC springs today. Also painted the shifter bezel to match my paint job on the brainiac kit.

Gray Goose 08-14-2019 08:36 AM

Updated List 8-14-2019

Blandino 08-14-2019 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gray Goose (Post 3871954)
Put in the Brainiac tablet kit, Stillen short throw shifter, shifter cup, and MTEC springs today. Also painted the shifter bezel to match my paint job on the brainiac kit.

How was it working with the Brainiac kit? Is the tablet & amp a suitable stereo replacement? Need to install mine when I get back home. A little worried about leaving the tablet battery in the heat and was considering removing it first. Have you had any issues with the setup?

Gray Goose 08-14-2019 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blandino (Post 3872671)
How was it working with the Brainiac kit? Is the tablet & amp a suitable stereo replacement? Need to install mine when I get back home. A little worried about leaving the tablet battery in the heat and was considering removing it first. Have you had any issues with the setup?

So far the only issue I have, is that the tablet wants to die after a few days of sitting. I need to figure out how to set up better battery management when the tablet is off (i'm new to Samsung). So, I made a 1/16" hole in the corner of the insert so I could stick a finishing nail in to turn it back on after it dies (no one notices unless i say something)(can you spot it in the pics?). They are supposed to be coming up with a fix for that. but I wasn't waiting. :rofl2:

Now, with that being said you have to have the Brainiac app or you cant use the tablet, since you can't get to the buttons. They did a good job with the app and answer questions very quickly if you have any.

Also, make sure you run a filter of some kind. The audio sounds terrible when the car is running if you don't!!!!

I used the Kenwood amp since that BOSS one is junk!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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cv129 08-21-2019 08:52 AM

Hi there, just saw your 1/4 mile video and scanned through your list. If you are planning on using your clutch aggressively, you may want to add ZSpeed CMAK (eliminates OEM Clutch Slave Cylinder). The OEM CSC will leave you stranded at some point.

Gray Goose 08-21-2019 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3873866)
Hi there, just saw your 1/4 mile video and scanned through your list. If you are planning on using your clutch aggressively, you may want to add ZSpeed CMAK (eliminates OEM Clutch Slave Cylinder). The OEM CSC will leave you stranded at some point.

I plan on going with the stage 3 kit and delete on ZSpeed's site.

I might just take a look to see what I have first since I don't know what the previous owner put in the car. I was just told "aftermarket flywheel" so I'm not sure why someone would upgrade the flywheel and not the put a better than stock clutch.

Jinxx 08-21-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gray Goose (Post 3873967)
I plan on going with the stage 3 kit and delete on ZSpeed's site.

I might just take a look to see what I have first since I don't know what the previous owner put in the car. I was just told "aftermarket flywheel" so I'm not sure why someone would upgrade the flywheel and not the put a better than stock clutch.

The boosted performance kit doesnt allow clearance for the cmak..I think Sasha redesign it for that but I’m not sure if he released that version yet but you can use Zspeed HD slave cylinder as well

madwi 08-21-2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinxx (Post 3873986)
The boosted performance kit doesnt allow clearance for the cmak..I think Sasha redesign it for that but I’m not sure if he released that version yet but you can use Zspeed HD slave cylinder as well

I run the cmak and BP kit, works fine. :tup:

madwi 08-21-2019 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gray Goose (Post 3873967)
I plan on going with the stage 3 kit and delete on ZSpeed's site.

I might just take a look to see what I have first since I don't know what the previous owner put in the car. I was just told "aftermarket flywheel" so I'm not sure why someone would upgrade the flywheel and not the put a better than stock clutch.

I am running the South Bend Stage 3 with the Zspeed 17 or 19lb flywheel and it has a good feel to it and performs excellent. :driving:

Jinxx 08-21-2019 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3874007)
I run the cmak and BP kit, works fine. :tup:

This is what I was referring to ...

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ct-update.html

But also my kit is from 2016 so I might not be up to date

Elmo370z 08-21-2019 08:34 PM

Waiting on it

TexasZ34 08-21-2019 08:57 PM

A couple things I would add/change are:

Replace the Z1 solid bushing for the CJM solid bushing, you have more clearance for the piping.

Might add the Z1 poly transmission mount.

I would forget about the Koni shock and go for a set of coilovers and maybe upgraded to Swift springs for a higher spring rate. Stance, Fortune auto, BC, etc offer that option on their coilovers

If your E85 is readily available in your area, I would use it. Boosted VQ's love E.

Gray Goose 08-26-2019 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jinxx (Post 3874058)
This is what I was referring to ...

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...ct-update.html

But also my kit is from 2016 so I might not be up to date

I will assume my kit will be updated. Sasa should be shipping it any day now. But if it is not, I will work around it.

Thanks for the info

Gray Goose 08-26-2019 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasZ34 (Post 3874068)
A couple things I would add/change are:

Replace the Z1 solid bushing for the CJM solid bushing, you have more clearance for the piping.

Might add the Z1 poly transmission mount.

I would forget about the Koni shock and go for a set of coilovers and maybe upgraded to Swift springs for a higher spring rate. Stance, Fortune auto, BC, etc offer that option on their coilovers

If your E85 is readily available in your area, I would use it. Boosted VQ's love E.

I already installed the Z1 bushings, and will see how it goes.

I do plan on putting the transmission mount. I just have not decided on solid or poly. Not sure how bad the noise will be with the solid.

I picked up some Tein Flex Z coilovers for a great price (brand new) they will do for now lol. I dropped the rear 1.25" and the front 1" with the coilovers. I hope that is not too much.

I wish we had E85 close!!!! but the closest station is 1.5 hours away. I will still put an E85 tune in the car and try to get some drums of E85 in my garage.

Gray Goose 08-26-2019 08:07 AM

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Updated 8-26-2019

We installed the Z1 solid diff bushings, Z1 solid engine mounts, and the Tein coilovers this weekend.

Can't wait to go test drive it with the changes and see how she reacts! :driving:

BTW that rear subframe diff bushing is a pain in the @ss, even with the Z1 tool!!

But we got it all installed while waiting on turbo parts!!!


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Gray Goose 09-23-2019 09:09 AM

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We started on the turbo install this weekend but decided that powder-coating all the intake piping and inter-cooler would fit this car much better.

So I'm dropping everything off at the painter today!

Spooler 09-23-2019 09:57 AM

For drag racing, stay at stock ride height. Your 60ft times will be better. If you lower it, you will have traction issues due to how much negative camber is added through the suspension travel. It is even quicker, when lowered, than stock.


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