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redondoaveb 07-09-2021 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4001825)
If Moncef blows it up that is his (shewantsthezeee) fault, not SOHO's.
Of course.

THE BULL 07-09-2021 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4000959)
^^^^^^Think I am going to put his on my intercooler this time. Not going to anodize it.
Mighty car mods did an episode on this with regular paint and it worked. I could see if a lighter coating could be applied it would increase with heat exchange.

Mr.Squeeze 07-09-2021 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4001797)
The real test is going to be when the car goes back on the dyno. 20 to 30 deg rise in IAT's will rob HP. I was at freaking 60 deg rise from Ambient. That was a holey chit moment.
Geez she was really cooking

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Spooler 07-09-2021 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by THE BULL (Post 4001828)
Mighty car mods did an episode on this with regular paint and it worked. I could see if a lighter coating could be applied it would increase with heat exchange.
Gonna use what Calico recommends. That's what they do. No spray bomb for me. Plus, if they can do a PTFE coating to help clean it easier and prevent fouling and clogging of the fins I am all for it.

Spooler 07-09-2021 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 4001829)
Geez she was really cooking

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Yup, we shall see what happens with the new intercooler.

Mr.Squeeze 07-09-2021 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4001800)
Even Dynosty's shop car was in the 1xxx whp range with an FI kit. They didn't notice it either? Did they think they were out of turbo causing it to blow hot air. I just don't get it.

Hell in both those videos Dynosty and Carbon car both front bumpers were off the car probably skewed the numbers some what.

Spooler 07-09-2021 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 4001839)
Hell in both those videos Dynosty and Carbon car both front bumpers were off the car probably skewed the numbers some what.
True, Mine was on the car. They had to take it off the dyno to take a look at the intercooler. They didn't remember what size it was either. When my car was tuned
by Vince the front bumper was on the car.

Hotrodz 07-09-2021 03:40 PM
I am not necessarily in agreement with this. It may be biased opinion on his part. I did some research on it and the hub dyno should provide a more accurate assessment of wheel horse power. Dyno jets and alike numbers are dependent on how the wheels make contact with the rollers. The load can be influenced by how tightly the cars is tied down or how grippy the roller are. I believe Seb did a video on the latter. Also rotational mass can have influence all of the for mentioned are not variables on a hub dyno. I do believe that add adjustment factors in calculating numbers.

My experience on a hub dyno with Miata was done by a tuner I trust respect as Seb. The Miata made 150whp and a week later when I had it dyno on a dyno jet because cars running in NASA competition must be on a certified dyno jet to be within the rules. The Miata made 160 plus!

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Spooler 07-09-2021 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 4001843)
I am not necessarily in agreement with this. It may be biased opinion on his part. I did some research on it and the hub dyno should provide a more accurate assessment of wheel horse power. Dyno jets and alike numbers are dependent on how the wheels make contact with the rollers. The load can be influenced by how tightly the cars is tied down or how grippy the roller are. I believe Seb did a video on the latter. Also rotational mass can have influence all of the for mentioned are not variables on a hub dyno. I do believe that add adjustment factors in calculating numbers.

My experience on a hub dyno with Miata was done by a tuner I trust respect as Seb. The Miata made 150whp and a week later when I had it dyno on a dyno jet because cars running in NASA competition must be on a certified dyno jet to be within the rules. The Miata made 160 plus!

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You are going to make me go find it aren't you. What better folks to ask advice from than the people that make both types of dynos.

Spooler 07-09-2021 03:57 PM
Here, class is in session.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtgEB8jpsYU

Spooler 07-09-2021 04:14 PM
Make no mistake, when you get up in the higher HP level you must use a Hub dyno. It's a tuning aid. If the tires are slipping, you can't tune it properly.

Spooler 07-09-2021 04:17 PM
Maybe I should be like everybody else and take the front bumper off when on the dyno. LOL

redondoaveb 07-09-2021 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4001848)
Maybe I should be like everybody else and take the front bumper off when on the dyno. LOL
Won't Moncef do that for you :stirthepot:

Spooler 07-09-2021 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4001849)
won't moncef do that for shewantsthezeee :stirthepot:
fifu

Hotrodz 07-09-2021 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4001845)
You found it!

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