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I know it has been suggested by others on this forum before, but Stormcrow, can you please stop being offensive with every post, or just don't post at all?

Thanks,

-Phim

I was reading from page 1 and up until here, Both kits looks great and promising, but i had bad experience with stillen s/c on my old 350z, so i swapped into TT kit and i sold the Z after a while.
This stillen s/c kit looks pretty nice,their intake manifold reminds me of Edelbrock e-force s/c on my friends Mustange ,and tbh i think stillen is making a very reliable kit, but i wonder about their S/C unit sound and oiling system, vortech units tend to get loud.
I'm a GTM fanboy since i had their TT installed, i think both kits would be great, but right now we need customers reviews on both kits in terms of price, installation, quality, power, and so on, don't judge a book by it's cover.

You find my questioning of Stillen offensive?? Really? Oh, wait. Your signature. Nevermind. Mystery solved. :)

you're getting dangerously close to getting banned dude, seriously just give it up.

Wow.

Oh, really? If I am banned, I will know why. :)

None of my posts have been offensive, immature, libelous or slanderous. They are filled with truth, my experience and legitimate questions. I have violated ZERO TOUs - and do not plan to.

I think people are being a little too sensitive here. Until Stillen comes out with an official release addressing much of what's being discussed this debate will rage on.

This all may be so. But I for one am just sick of hearing you pontificate.

i think you are looking for the ignore list .... User CP in the top left then edit ignore list.

Is that along the same line as fornicate?:rolleyes:

Then put me on your ignore list. Quite simple, really. :)

BTW, any plans for ZDayz? I am hoping there will be a good showing of 370s this year. It would be nice to see some Nismos along with. We can chat and you will see that I am in no way pompous. :tup:

BAH! You guys beat me to the punch! :tiphat:

BTW, ZSteve, your avatar + fornicate = YES!

Wow. That works great he's completely gone.

Now if we can hear form Stillen and get this back on track.

Thanks

Stormcrow, got any more SAT level words you want to force into your every one of your posts? Its amusing how hard you are trying to be taken seriously.


Yeah please lets get this back on track. I'm done posting here until Stillen does or they come up with a new thread. This one has run its course.

So my dealership wants to know, will the Stillen SC kit be sold at the dealerships. The manager told me if i end up getting the kit and let them use it as a show car for a few days they will give me $1000 towards my payments.

WHAT! lol thats amazing.

We have been selling to dealerships across North America for many, many years. We actually have a division of the company who only handles dealer sales.

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:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl: it was worth a try...

Imagine, a Stillen supercharger as a dealer installed option, pretty badass.

This post probably won't suffice some people but it is what it is for now.

Obviously Josh and I are in the marketing department here at STILLEN. Just like any other vendor on this forum, our primary job is to sell. However, we do so through facts, data, and experience that we gather from our engineers, Steve Millen, and our designers. I'm not going to sit here and try to tell anyone that either Josh or I have had a hand in the engineering of the kit. Steve and our engineer's value the opinion of the sales and marketing staff because they recognize that we are the ones talking directly to you guys but I'm not going to pretend like I'm tuning the car or Josh engineered the intake manifold.

In regards to the people who think I'm just spewing out sales pitch after sales pitch. I apologize. That is not what I'm trying to do. In my opinion, the sales pitch starts when the press release is posted. To date I have not promised any horsepower levels, we have not mentioned any price tags, and we have not mentioned any specifics about the kit. All of that will be in the press release.

Stormcrow- You ask good questions, and they will be answered in due time. When we begin selling these kits you will know the most vital facts:

Horsepower output
Boost pressure
Price
Shipping date
And More

We won't announce any of this information seperate from each other because we want to make sure that everyone expects the same things. We are getting phone calls and emails daily from people who are saying "take my card...just charge my card..." We are not going to do that until we can offer the customer all of the necessary information.

Josh and I are extremely proud of this supercharger kit and all of the great products that are coming out of our R&D department lately. We really enjoy talking about these things because we see the testing and engineering going into them.

Thank you for the further clarification, Kyle. Your professionalism is beyond reproach and appreciated. I do look forward to the press release and having my questions answered.

And I do understand the reasons why the dyno was posted, even before the press release and the final numbers are in. Lead generation is a key in marketing a product. I honestly just wish that vendors would not do this as there might be a lot of disappointed people in the end if the production release doesn't match the proposed release. But, that is not for me to worry with. You are certainly not the only vendor to do this and most certainly will not be the last, so some leeway is in order.

BTW, in the fray I have forgotten to ask. Will you guys be running in the Redline series this year?

So is that how it became STILLEN

you bitccccch. lol thats a great deal.

Uh yeah!

you know I sometimes mix my words like that when Im talking. Thats cool.

Thank you for your understanding!

It is our goal to be running in the Time Attack series this year. I'm not sure what car we will be using this year or which events we'll be attending but yes, we do plan on attending some of the events with a car. To be honest, I don't think our Z racer car will be 100% ready until next year. We are working on a lot of parts that won't be ready for this years series and I don't want to rush them.

Yup! Steve Millen=STILLEN

When I take over you know it's going to be Kyle Millen=KILLEN! (I have been hearing that all my life so I had to be the first one to throw it out there in this thread! LOL

Ok, so basically you're saying that Stillen is focusing pretty heavily on the 370 and will be developing alot of aftermarket options for us?

I want a transmission reflash for the AT to make it shift faster. Killen STILLEN?

If it's the stealership downtown on 101 ........ it's all lies

They just want your car for joyrides and test pilots to make them money.
I wouldn't trust them from experience and the horror stories out in the forums ....... you have been warned

Any word on which class you might be entering? Modified or Unlimited?

I did get the opportunity to see the GT-R last year when I was at Autoclub. (last race of the RTA) It would have been nice to see it run. I know you guys have the GT-R in a different series...more of the road racing efforts...so I am doubtful I'll be seeing that one play. Unless....? :)

That should be interesting in the Z or GTR with Steve driving. Time Attack has been the latest fad for a while now and win or loose that would be good for you guys considering the magazine coverage. It might bring about some new/good parts too, I hope you use the Z lol.

Man, i'd really love to see you guys do a fully built 370, 600+whp in the series....

LOL don't you want the developers working on the product and the salesmen selling it on forums? Dammit Shumby, the cold air is getting to you, man. :rofl2:

That comment speaks volumes, son.

Any $$$$$ figures yet on the kit? Or Kyle, can you please post me a link to a similar kit (G, 350Z perhaps?) so that I have a ballpark number, or PM if you'd like. TY! :tiphat:

Again, you're doing nothing constructive here and you are only trying to be offenseive. It's not warranted and hurts the370.com community.

Claiming that Stillen is using illegal business practices in the marketing of their product is not "questioning them." Your comments are unwarranted and what you're claiming is probably not provable, even if it were true.

After reading your posts throughout this thread, you'll probably want to debate me on my use of the word "illegal", but "illegitimate" is referring to parentage of offspring. To use "Illegitimate" in the business context, the synonym which most closely fits is "illegal." Cross reference a thesaurus if you don't believe me. The interpretation by attorneys in a slander suit would also use the same logic.

About your most recent comment about my signature "solving your mystery;" all you are trying to do is deflect the criticism back at someone else to avoid scrutiny. I could answer with reasons like, they were first to market or they offered a group buy, etc.. But, the truth still is that you are being rude to too many of the people on this forum for no valid reason. I really am surprised the administrators have allowed this behaviour and not deleted your posts. If every member took the same attitude that you do towards Kyle and the other members of the Stillen team, or even Sam at GTM for that matter, they would simply stop posting to this forum. Think about it just for a moment; if Kyle was getting verbally attacked and badgered by EVERY person, they wouldn't post here. They would find another forum or advertising outlet that was friendly to them and release their information there first. And honestly, there are other 370z forums out there that haven't done as well and would love to get exclusive updates on aftermarket projects. If we chase off people like Stillen, GTM and Altered Atmosphere and they start posting their breaking news to other sites and refuse to post here, we end up killing the site. So please, use your sarcasm for humor, not to insult. And if you are skeptical of someone's data, post a rhetorical question, like "why would they do that?" rather than a direct confrontation.

Thanks,

-Phim

We have only scratched the surface of what we have planned for the 370Z!

The orange GT R is currently set up for Targa road rallies. We wanted to take the car on the track at Fontana but it had literally just come home about two days before the meet and was still set up in rally trim so it wouldn't have been very good. The shocks were too soft, the sway bar was too soft, the ride height was too tall...It would have been really slow.

The GT R racing in the Challenge series this year is going to be equipped with our coil overs, sway bars, and brake lines. We actually don't have anything to do with that car other than a parts supplier.

Steve really wants to continue with the Targa rallies which means the car will be traveling to New Zealand and Australia and a few other countries/events. As much as I'd like to make the GT R our Time Attack car, Steve wants to continue using it in the rallies.

If we're able to put together a Time Attack program we will be using a 370Z. We will probably start in the lower classes, then move to modified then eventually the hope would be to go to Unlimited. It really depends on development, money, and the driver.

not tryin to take up space....but agreed ^^^^... look at my sig though... damnit.

Whore! lol! :icon17: