You bought the wrong car buddy haha

My goal? To make M3s and IS-Fs my bitches.:rock:

^ haha I agree. I was thouroghly embarrassed my an e92 M3 the other day...not cool.

Man, I'm all for a good debate and some give and take on the two different kits but this thread has just gotten negative in the past week or so.

I feel like the people I see in the GTM thread saying the greatest things about the kit are the same ones over here saying the most negative things. I'm thinking once the full press release comes out, so many of these questions will be answered... I mean, nothing freakin matters until the final product is released... things could change right?... The unicorn blood could end up not having its expected results!...

I hate to look like a "fanboi", but it seems like all the criticizing could wait until the actual release. I for one can say that I am really liking the pricing and the results on the GTM kit. (Pricing vs power is going to be the big concern for me), but I still want to give Stillen a fair shot to release some honest figures.

Yeah you should learn all the performance cars capabilities, so to know which ones you give a friendly wave and which you can embarrass :tup:
Then at least if they are stock, the odds are in your favor.

For me the SC is just because I love the feeling of the G forces!

Haha, agreed. I don't really have an HP or timeslip goal. I just wanna mash the gas pedal and get that "oh, $hit!!!" feeling like Han Solo jumping to light speed in the Millennium Falcon, LOL:tup:

RCZ, you so funny

Yes, making generalizations like that definitely shows maturity.;)

I can definitely see what your saying here... The vibes in the thread are so much different in each. Not saying that one is better than another but I can feel clear differences in both... When its all said and done though who really cares... We all are here to see all the results from both S/C's and I personally can't freakin' wait for both company's to give more info.

I'm just hoping to have some type of forced induction in 1-2 mo's installed!! I look so forward to that first drive and the bigass smile on my face!

+1

I wouldnt say so, a good pair of slicks/DR's plus 400+ whp should do the trick, Z Eliminator is shooting for an 11.7, and with a 12.8 already posted with street tires and no boost, i'd say he could do it.

I think 450rwhp is enough to get into the 11's. A guy on here is running 12.8 @110 with around 310rwhp. Another is doing 12.7 @ 116 with bolt-ons and a 50 shot in 3rd gear. The 116 mph is good for 11's

Comparing it to the 350Z

Fast Nissan 350Zs 1/4 Mile 0-60 Drag Racing - DragTimes.com

Top time running 11.080 has:
Horsepower @ wheels: 530.00
Torque @ wheels: 525.00

And is running MT ET Street's

Also a 350z on there running 11.8 @ 124 with 345rwhp and 361 FtLb's. and

I'd like to see a slip and dyno of that car.... :)

Anyways this is a bit of topic and as I said I'm not a drag expert, but I know taking of a full second is a lot...

This might be a handy estimate: Calculators From RPM Outlet

I think you are missing some subtle points of my post. If the G37 kit is irrelevant to the 370Z kit, WHY can't the PSI used to create the posted dyno be revealed? Also, the fact that I have a NISMO edition doesn't affect this kit. Stillen will have no need to retune for our cars as the flash will be the same no matter what the OEM tune.


Funny, this coming from you. Weren't you the one who suggested that I take my questions, comments and concerns into the Stillen thread instead of the GTM one?



For any of you that think I may be trolling or out for Stillen blood - I suggest you read all of my posts here. REALLY read them. You will see why I ask the questions I do and why I don't accept the trivial and vague answers. How many of you have purchased Stillen SC kits in the past? How many of you have spent over 4k only to find out that what you were promised wasn't what you received? I am willing to wager I am the only one. Also, for any of you that may want information on my true experience with Stillen and their SC kit, feel free to PM me.

I seen that, it all comes down to the driver really. Also keep in mind that the autos shift much quicker than us 6MT guys can, also dropping time. The AT on the 350 was awful, nothing like the 7AT.

You realize GTM has been working on the SC kit since pre-October right? They have been testing the kit on a 370Z since then as well. Do you have some inside information into how long Stillen has been working on their system? Because I do at GTM...

I think people will base their opinions on whatever they want...and it's unfortunate that some of them will be swayed by some of the garbage and just flat out bs that is spewed in forums.

I'm following this thread only because i'm interested in the development of both kits...but I wouldn't even dare try to imply that I know something I don't...

There are a few basic things that everyone will consider:

Price
Performance
Aesthetics (Looks)
Warranty Reservations/CARB

Reliability??? The systems are new...nobody can point a finger at which one is more reliable at this point.

You obviously think Stillen is amazing...I can tell by your sig...but try to refrain from unfounded opinion when you are trying to make an analysis please.

Here's what I've seen from both companies so far (correct me if I'm wrong):

GTM Stage 1 SC: 8PSI 420RWHP 330TQ - stock exhaust setup on a G37S 6MT Coupe - Price $4995.00 for Stage 1

Stillen SC (Stage ?): PSI? 422RWHP 310TQ - Stillen exhaust G37 Coupe 7AT - Price?

I haven't finished reading through the rest of the posts past this one, but feel free to correct me on anything I haven't read yet if you want.

why do you assume my comment was directed at you?... just curious, is most of the world centered around you?

why do you believe you're the only one who has spent money and been disappointed?... perhaps you mean you're the only one ever to be dissapointed by a Stillen kit? yeah, that makes more sense

are you naturally vindictive? or just towards Stillen?

please share more of your valuable perspective

thanks

400 to 410 rwhp 11.7 no problems.
When i go the track with my fully moded N/A set up i now feel that it might go 11.5 to 11.6 or lower.
Theres a lot more done to the car now. lighter, drag radials 305 35 18. horse power will be around 305 t0 307, 65 to 70 lbs lighter than before. the car was very light before and now i took more weight out of it Rims tires, braile battery driver lost 10 lb and no washer fluid.
time will tell
1st to go 13.20 @ 103 / 265 rwhp with a posted time slip.
1st to go 12.95 @ 110.92 / 292 rwhp with posted time slips
1st to go 12.8009 @ 110.32 / 292 rwhp with posted time slips

There is another 370 7 AT that ran a 13.1 with a stock set up and he posted a time slip
he ran after me, Congratulations to him. If you look at the magazines that post
1/4 mile times have never posted a time slip.

That sounds more reasonable.

I thought with that with an 11 second slip he meant 11.0

You seem to have some good drag experience, what do you think would be needed to get to 11.0.

RCZ...this is the kinda stuff that doesn't need to be in this thread...but I guess being a guy that actually has the GTM SC in my car atm...I must be the real immature one...

That was their CARB legal kit, with 20" show rims as well.

To go 11.99 in my car 365 rwhp.
we should get back to the Stillen Sc discusion in this thread.
and leave the drag racing to the drag section.
Z Eliminator

I completely agree with you, which is why I even say anything in the first place. This whole thing is starting to get old. Most people who even have the money to afford this kit can make up their own minds.

Do I like Stillen? They haven't given me a reason not to so far and they have helped out with my build. That is why my sig says what it says. Do I have inside info about Stillen? A whole lot less than I do about GTM's kit.

Its not that I'm against GTM, I just like the Stillen kit more. When someone says they think the GTM kit has more engineering or is better, I reply with my own opinion, then just because I favor Stillen all of the sudden I think Stillen is amazing and I'm a fanboy.

I wish I could say I feel strongly enough about this dispute to spend any more time on it, but I don't really care what you guys buy or don't buy. To each his own.


And for the record, my comment about maturity was directed at the people who were actively coming in here and the other thread and making unnecessary inflammatory comments , not to everyone. My apologies to the rest, including you OMG37.

Not trying to make any enemies here, Its just a little frustrating sometimes when people do spew hype everywhere. For example the whole thing about Salesmen pitching the Stillen Kit and not engineers just because Stillen hasnt released information they want to hear so desperately. I dont think thats fair.

I love Peking Duck, its so delicious....

lol... this thread is depressing lol... Hopefully Stillen will start the Full Press Release thread NOW and this one will die soon.

I have been following this thread from the beginning. Admittedly I'm a Stillen fan so I am eager for more info/press release. While I find the forums very insightful, I follow from a distance-not chiming in. But I can't resist with this thread. Why? Because extremely entertaining! Way more than anything I'm watching on TV at the moment. I gotta get in on the action! :ohsnap1:
However, I do look forward to getting back on topic and getting in on the real action

Posted at 1:24pm

Posted just below at 1:38pm

Reading the above quoted, yes, I assume the comment was meant in response to CBRich's post which was directed at me. 2+2=4 in my world.

Whether or not you trust in my past experience or like/dislike me is of no concern. I am here to keep vendors honest and to allow others the opportunity to learn from my past expensive lessons. Maybe you cannot appreciate this, but I am hoping others can and will.

One thing you do not seem to grasp. I am more than willing to give Stillen a chance to be completely transparent and forthcoming with the members of this board. This is not yet the case and it is indicative (and highly reminiscent) of my past experience with them. Not a good sign.

They kinda already told you that you will find out when they release the kit. You seem unusually desperate to find out what PSI they are running. Thats the point, that you want them to respect your request for info, but you will not respect their answer. They have taken the time already to explain and give you a logical explanation of why they don't want to release the number, yet and you have not stopped asking even though you said you would when they did.

That' why people are getting annoyed.

Stormcrow, would be helpful if you'd post a list of your specific technically oriented questions for stillen, e.g.,

1. why is ____ __% different than ...
2. why did you select ___ part, when ___ part is better at ___ by __%
2. ...

Then at least Stillen will have something they can decide to respond to.

Thanks

It's really not all that critical. Some folks are getting all spun up on getting inside information or whether or not their experience/claims are valid. It is all about when this kit will be released, how much it will cost, and what it will deliver with the incorporated parts/settings.

Personally, I am glad it is taking time to make an official release. It gives me more time to save my pennies up.

Hell man, I ate at the chow hall every day, only spent money on toiletries and came home with 40k in the bank, this is as an E6, you should do just fine when you finish over there buddy.

Truth.

To the point :iagree:

ahahahahahahaha. this thread has made the last 4 days of my over time so much more fun.


Dance robots dance.


ahahahahahahahaahahahahahah

In all honesty, you think their explanation is logical?

nope sound just like a sales pitch

On the tune: Unless I missed exactly what type of engine management they are using it could effect it, I don' know. If it's a reflash then you are right. If it's a piggy back then you are wrong.

RED370: I lol everytime I see one of your F-ed up avatars.

It's not an EMS. It's a reflash. It will be either Cobb or UpRev. Knowing their working relationship with UpRev, I am going to wager on the latter.