Nissan 370Z Forum  

Boost not increasing over WG pressure

My latest dilema, is 2-fold: 1. Boost rises and hovers around 7.5 Psi no matter what settings I punch into the EBC, in other words I cannot increase it past

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Like Tree42Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-14-2018, 08:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: South Australia, Austra
Posts: 917
Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT
Rep Power: 24
shadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Boost not increasing over WG pressure

My latest dilema, is 2-fold:

1. Boost rises and hovers around 7.5 Psi no matter what settings I punch into the EBC, in other words I cannot increase it past the WG pressure of 7.5 Psi?

2. Even though the boost only wants to stay at 7.5 Psi, there is a spike in the middle of the boost curve where it jumps by1-2 PSI as in the graph below:




Does anyone know why I cannot increase the boost past the WG pressure.
I have tried SET: 10%, 15%, 25%, 35%, even tried 40% but boost is not increasing past 7.5 Psi, but still spikes to 9.5 Psi.
Its like the EBC is working only as a boost gauge!

I have AAM TT Stage 1 kit
Greddy Profec Oled EBC

Any ideas whats going on?
shadow85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2018, 09:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
Track Member
 
sirnixalot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Cayman Islands
Posts: 685
Drives: 2010 370Z
Rep Power: 57453
sirnixalot has a reputation beyond reputesirnixalot has a reputation beyond reputesirnixalot has a reputation beyond reputesirnixalot has a reputation beyond reputesirnixalot has a reputation beyond reputesirnixalot has a reputation beyond reputesirnixalot has a reputation beyond reputesirnixalot has a reputation beyond reputesirnixalot has a reputation beyond reputesirnixalot has a reputation beyond reputesirnixalot has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Are the vacuum lines plumbed correctly?
__________________
2010 Sport - LS3 swap loading
2012 Frontier - BTWTuning VK56DE swap
sirnixalot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2018, 09:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Chuck33079's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,265
Drives: 2011 370ztt
Rep Power: 29538
Chuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I have an idea - the shop that installed your EBC is incompetent. This isn't the first (or even second) time they've caused you boost related issues. Take it to a different shop or be prepared to learn a very expensive lesson.
jwick and Hotrodz like this.
__________________
2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent
Chuck33079 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2018, 09:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,532
Drives: '10 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 2465056
jwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck33079 View Post
I have an idea - the shop that installed your EBC is incompetent. This isn't the first (or even second) time they've caused you boost related issues. Take it to a different shop or be prepared to learn a very expensive lesson.

^^^THIS^^^

Dude you have created several posts with boost pressure issues. I’m pretty sure you have some plumbing issues either to the WG or EBC or both. Nobody is going to be able to fix it for you over the internet. Take it to a qualified shop.
Hotrodz likes this.
__________________
'10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

jwick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2018, 10:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324197
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

@OP: Both Chuck33079 and jwick are valued and knowledgeable members of this site. Take their advice and find a new shop/mechanic. What is your shop going to screw up next?
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2018, 01:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: South Australia, Austra
Posts: 917
Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT
Rep Power: 24
shadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Yes it is true I have taken the car back to the shop several times because of boost related issues. Ok, so I gues its just a plumbing issue?

I suppose I will take it to another shop, but only reason why I wan't to take it back to the same shop is because they have to fix it for free if it is their mistake.

But maybe it could be a faulty solenoid.

@Chuck, yes it's fortunate that Sebs failsafes saved me the previous boost issue I had a few weeks back, when the boost was sky rocketing instantly because of a melted vacc line.

Does the following setup look correct:


I don't know if my setup looks like that, that diagram was just supplied to me by another mate from the UK who also has the AAM TT kit and same Greddy EBC fitted. So I will supply that to the next shop that attempts to fix my situation if it is correct
ByThaBay likes this.

Last edited by shadow85; 12-14-2018 at 02:09 PM.
shadow85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2018, 03:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324197
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadow85 View Post
... only reason why I wan't to take it back to the same shop is because they have to fix it for free if it is their mistake. ...
Are they going to fix it (sounds like they've tried more than once without success) or bend you over for a free lube job?
Bird likes this.
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2018, 07:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,655
Drives: 370
Rep Power: 944523
phunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

If you are absolutely 100% confident that you have an overboost protection in your tune, and that you are safe to bump into it... keep cranking it up. I have seen boost controllers that dont do anything until you get pretty high up there in the duty cycle and then become sensitive to each % once you are in the sweet spot.

Reconfirm you have overboost protection, then crank it up 5% and try a pull and repeat until you either hit the end or the start seeing boost go up.

You can also ease into the throttle to prevent hitting overboost protection, which would be even more ideal and how I would do it in my own car.
shadow85 likes this.
__________________
Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube
Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

Last edited by phunk; 12-14-2018 at 07:10 PM.
phunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2018, 10:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: CT
Posts: 254
Drives: g37
Rep Power: 11
hc_416 is on a distinguished road
Default

Just FYI, that boost controller is a pain to work with. It never seems to work right and to find someone that can hook it up right is a pain. After that was taken care of the dam thing broke after a year of use, the dam solenoid broke. I would recommend a different ebc, just use spring pressure, or try to give Z1 a call; I believe they have a lot of experience with that profec.
hc_416 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2018, 11:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,532
Drives: '10 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 2465056
jwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hc_416 View Post
Just FYI, that boost controller is a pain to work with. It never seems to work right and to find someone that can hook it up right is a pain. After that was taken care of the dam thing broke after a year of use, the dam solenoid broke. I would recommend a different ebc, just use spring pressure, or try to give Z1 a call; I believe they have a lot of experience with that profec.

I have the original old school Profec Spec B and it works great. Sucks they screwed up a good thing with the update.
hc_416 likes this.
__________________
'10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

jwick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2018, 01:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ga
Posts: 13,517
Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z
Rep Power: 2684391
Spooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwick View Post
I have the original old school Profec Spec B and it works great. Sucks they screwed up a good thing with the update.
I have one brand new still in the box I bought from NOPI. LOL Had it for years for my 1975 280zt.
Spooler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2018, 03:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
jwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,532
Drives: '10 G37 6MT
Rep Power: 2465056
jwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond reputejwick has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spooler View Post
I have one brand new still in the box I bought from NOPI. LOL Had it for years for my 1975 280zt.

I bought mine NIB off eBay. It’s pretty simple to run. You just select % over spring pressure you want to run.
__________________
'10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

jwick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2018, 04:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Martijn_b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 280
Drives: 2010 370z MB 6MT
Rep Power: 3786
Martijn_b has a reputation beyond reputeMartijn_b has a reputation beyond reputeMartijn_b has a reputation beyond reputeMartijn_b has a reputation beyond reputeMartijn_b has a reputation beyond reputeMartijn_b has a reputation beyond reputeMartijn_b has a reputation beyond reputeMartijn_b has a reputation beyond reputeMartijn_b has a reputation beyond reputeMartijn_b has a reputation beyond reputeMartijn_b has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Like Phunk says, 40% is still low. In my previous car my settings to rise above spring pressure started at 65%.

That being said, be VERY careful. Just try it in 4th gear cruising and ease the throttle whilst keeping a close eye on the boost.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G950F met Tapatalk
shadow85 likes this.
__________________
Instagram: Boosted_Fairlady
Martijn_b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2018, 05:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: South Australia, Austra
Posts: 917
Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT
Rep Power: 24
shadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martijn_b View Post
Like Phunk says, 40% is still low. In my previous car my settings to rise above spring pressure started at 65%.

That being said, be VERY careful. Just try it in 4th gear cruising and ease the throttle whilst keeping a close eye on the boost.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G950F met Tapatalk
Thanks phunk and Martjn.

I might try this!

The highest I tried on this EBC, was 40% I think? Still gave me like the usual 7-8PSI with the small spike upto ~9.5PSI

After trying 40%, I thought to myslef, screw it! Lol

But like u guys said, I may need to try higher, be easing into it.

What a shame, this is a very nice looking EBC that was reccommended to me by several guys...

Last edited by shadow85; 12-15-2018 at 05:35 PM.
shadow85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2018, 05:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: South Australia, Austra
Posts: 917
Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT
Rep Power: 24
shadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond reputeshadow85 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I am going to ask seb if I have the overboost protection.

But even if I didn't have overboost protection, wouldn't the 'Limiter' function on the EBC be the same thing?
shadow85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How much boost pressure can a built VQ37VHR withstand? Nuc370z Forced Induction 245 11-07-2014 04:50 PM
[FOR SALE] STRI Oil temp. Oil pressure and boost gauges Ron Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 10 05-03-2012 12:30 PM
[FOR SALE] NEW PROSPORT GAUGES (BOOST, AFR, OIL TEMP and OIL PRESSURE) kosstick Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 54 01-26-2012 09:02 PM
Increasing your MPGs? oleg Nissan 370Z General Discussions 58 05-10-2011 12:31 PM
FS: Brand New Defi BF Link Gauges Amber Boost / Oil Pressure twenzel Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 2 02-08-2010 02:20 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2