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bullitt5897 02-04-2017 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Senna-F1 (Post 3611780)
Why is the person logged into the RJ MFG account referring to RJ MFG as "he" and "they" and not "me" or "us"?

Who are "you" ?

Since you don't talk to the guys in the company you would know they have different people handling the forum and their Facebook from there actual support staff. Hence the use of they... I talk to the guys on a weekly basis and bobby on a daily basis. Also bobby is the he in that statement... it's reading comprehension brother.

Senna-F1 02-04-2017 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3612012)
Since you don't talk to the guys in the company you would know they have different people handling the forum and their Facebook from there actual support staff. Hence the use of they... I talk to the guys on a weekly basis and bobby on a daily basis. Also bobby is the he in that statement... it's reading comprehension brother.

And who are you? A customer with lots of positive things to say about RJ? Or their support staff?

cooltoy 02-04-2017 08:54 PM

:wtf2:

:inoutroflpuke:

Don't even answer that Bullit.

bullitt5897 02-04-2017 09:48 PM

Yeah I'm not even going to dignify that with a response... just not worth the hassle or off topic conversation. I am just glad we are finally going to get the supercharger kit we deserve. The more I talk to their engineers the better it gets!

Ape Factory 02-05-2017 08:38 PM

Man this looks really interesting. Too bad about the hood, otherwise you'd have another market in G37 owners.

bcfromfl 02-05-2017 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ape Factory (Post 3612309)
Too bad about the hood, otherwise you'd have another market in G37 owners.

...or for particular Z owners...

James10694 02-06-2017 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bcfromfl (Post 3612332)
...or for pansy Z owners...

Fixed

TechnicZ 02-06-2017 10:05 AM

Really looking forward to the completion of this kit. A little confused about the part of the community that are concerned about a different strut bar and a different hood. It's a new design for forced induction on our engine, throw conventional out of the window.

Is CARB legal really important? I know it costs a company a lot of overhead to get the certification and it'll limit the potential of the kit. In my opinion, that's the equivalent of penis reduction surgery.

I'm going to buy this with the notion that it's going to be for "Off-Road use only."

Keep up the balls to the wall research RJM!

zer099 02-06-2017 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ape Factory (Post 3612309)
Man this looks really interesting. Too bad about the hood, otherwise you'd have another market in G37 owners.

As a G37 owner, I changed my mind from a N/A build to using this setup. F the hood, I am sure I can find many options for something to make the hole look fancy that will easily still make me more happy then a crazy N/A build or expensive turbo headache (AWD here, a little bit more of a bitch to deal with the exhaust setup). I'm pretty sure those in the G community that understand what this setup would bring would have close to the same mindset if they really wanted to go this route.

Ape Factory 02-06-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by zer099 (Post 3612438)
As a G37 owner, I changed my mind from a N/A build to using this setup. F the hood, I am sure I can find many options for something to make the hole look fancy that will easily still make me more happy then a crazy N/A build or expensive turbo headache (AWD here, a little bit more of a bitch to deal with the exhaust setup). I'm pretty sure those in the G community that understand what this setup would bring would have close to the same mindset if they really wanted to go this route.

I get it and yeah I could see this being a much more simple, cost-effective route vs a N/A build. If someone decides to offer a decent-looking hood, I'd consider the kit too. I'm just not in to the home-brew look (especially on a 50K+ car) and I no longer have time to engineer my own solution (yes, I used to make hoods). Given I also have a 7AT and not a manual, it'd actually be less expensive for me to just "upgrade" to a Q60RS and transfer my wheel, brake and suspension package over to it, add a few choice exhaust components and call it a day. Or wait two+ years for the new Z.

But I do look forward to the first G slapping this kit on. I'm just not willing to drive around with a half-assed hood after spending north of 10K on this kit and transmission upgrades. No compromise.

But I absolutely think this is a killer idea and cannot wait to see a few customer cars rocking this kit.

cooltoy 02-06-2017 11:32 AM

Pretty sure they can develop a hood for the G as well.

zer099 02-06-2017 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ape Factory (Post 3612443)
I get it and yeah I could see this being a much more simple, cost-effective route vs a N/A build. If someone decides to offer a decent-looking hood, I'd consider the kit too. I'm just not in to the home-brew look (especially on a 50K+ car) and I no longer have time to engineer my own solution (yes, I used to make hoods). Given I also have a 7AT and not a manual, it'd actually be less expensive for me to just "upgrade" to a Q60RS and transfer my wheel, brake and suspension package over to it, add a few choice exhaust components and call it a day. Or wait two+ years for the new Z.

But I do look forward to the first G slapping this kit on. I'm just not willing to drive around with a half-assed hood after spending north of 10K on this kit and transmission upgrades. No compromise.

But I absolutely think this is a killer idea and cannot wait to see a few customer cars rocking this kit.

100% agree. And I didn't mean for my post to sound as snarky as it does when i reread it. I was going to see about picking up a spare hood from a wreaked G and see what might be doable. And by "see" I mean have someone with artist skill and bodywork experience do it for me. I also do not want a half-assed hood, and sadly think most the offered hoods for are cars look like crap still. It's going to be a pain to find a design I think I can live with for the extra that will need to be spent.

TechnicZ 02-06-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ape Factory (Post 3612443)
I get it and yeah I could see this being a much more simple, cost-effective route vs a N/A build. If someone decides to offer a decent-looking hood, I'd consider the kit too. I'm just not in to the home-brew look (especially on a 50K+ car) and I no longer have time to engineer my own solution (yes, I used to make hoods). Given I also have a 7AT and not a manual, it'd actually be less expensive for me to just "upgrade" to a Q60RS and transfer my wheel, brake and suspension package over to it, add a few choice exhaust components and call it a day. Or wait two+ years for the new Z.

But I do look forward to the first G slapping this kit on. I'm just not willing to drive around with a half-assed hood after spending north of 10K on this kit and transmission upgrades. No compromise.

But I absolutely think this is a killer idea and cannot wait to see a few customer cars rocking this kit.

If someone has the money to go this route, they'll massage a budget for a hood modification or purchase the RJM solution if they come out with it. One thing I've noticed about this Z demographic is that we do our best to mod into completion. In my opinion, if you get any forced induction kit you'll be one of the rare owners that doesn't value stance/wheels/poor drive-ability over performance.

photoguy1 02-08-2017 05:02 PM

Have you seen the latest "Z owners" its all about "stance life" poked wheels and assorted gayness that goes with it. I can count on maybe one hand the amount of performance oriented Z's at MD car shows than the show boaters....SMH

Jordo! 02-11-2017 04:32 AM

Looks great!

Any updates on hood/front strut bar options?

Any new details on the capacity of the water pump or the heat exchanger?

Really glad to see this project coming together :tup:

jchammond 02-11-2017 06:34 AM

Same as Jordo.....any up-dates?

LinPark 02-12-2017 06:59 PM

In for updates.

MCLOVIN 02-12-2017 07:05 PM

I'm down for some more hood shots


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bullitt5897 02-12-2017 08:24 PM

I am doing the hood for them. I am waiting on the donor hood. It should be here in the next week or two then it's down to putting together a physical prototype. As for the supercharger progress I sat in on one of their development meetings Friday... the models look great! They are working on the small details now. They plan on doing a crank pulley for stock cranks and for the ati super dampener.it will be an option to choose one or the other. I would highly recommend going with the super dampener! So the crank pulleys and fuel system should be done this week. They have also bought and setup a new 3D printer and are printing everything to test fit in house. Expect to see some pics late next week or the following week of the 3D printed parts.

MCLOVIN 02-12-2017 09:58 PM

Awesome man thanks for the update


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B&W_Evader 02-13-2017 09:58 AM

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Any thoughts on scoop styles. Maybe post some thoughts and see what people think.

2011 Nismo#91 02-13-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3615115)
Any thoughts on scoop styles. Maybe post some thoughts and see what people think.

I think the Camaro SS style would make the most sense. IMO

BlackZeda 02-13-2017 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3615115)
Any thoughts on scoop styles. Maybe post some thoughts and see what people think.

Any hood scoop that tapers back down toward the windshield look terrible on the Z IMO.

Shaggy370Z 02-13-2017 04:10 PM

I am definitely looking forward to seeing how this kit turns out!!

lj909 02-13-2017 04:15 PM

HR/M3 hood bump

Ape Factory 02-14-2017 07:38 PM

I'd totally do a hood bump and forego a non-functioning scoop.

cooltoy 02-14-2017 09:43 PM

Combined with Amuse Vents.

:yum:

bullitt5897 02-14-2017 10:09 PM

I ordered an frp amuse gt type hood to make this. It's going to be killer!

cooltoy 02-14-2017 10:12 PM

Yes!!!!

Jordo! 02-16-2017 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3616004)
I ordered an frp amuse gt type hood to make this. It's going to be killer!

That sounds great! Looking forward to pics when its ready :tup:

RJ MFG 02-16-2017 04:20 PM

Small update:

We have made some great strides this week on the Supercharger design including working out some difficult details. One of the biggest hurdles with this kit is our space constraints. We can fully see why many wouldn't even think to try this. The amount of back and forth we have had between our engineers and contributors has been insane. Everyone has come up with Great ideas on how to solve a lot of space constraint hurdles we have been facing.

for example in the photo below you will notice a few valve cover pry tabs. These tabs extrude into the needed space for our plenums. In addition to that they also interrupt the traditional concept of manufacturing an integrated fuel rail in this tight of space constraint.


We have faced these hurdles over the last few weeks and have successfully addressed them while also focusing on three key objectives:

1. Performance
2. Quality
3. Ease of installation (Goal: less than 12hr install and a stretch goal of less than 7hrs)

We are currently in the process of 3D printing our final revisions and once that has been completed we will share those pictures with the community. We are super excited as we believe we have the best kit on the market coming together.

Some other notable items to add:
We are including in the turnkey kit several fuel components you will need including - a fuel pressure regulator, ID 1050X Injectors (option to upgrade to larger), Fuel lines, and a choice of fuel pump options.

We are also looking at offering several color options including performance coatings to increase cooling efficiency of the intercooler.

We are also going to offer a large twin pass heat exchanger and high pressure pump (22gpm minimum) combo in the base kit!

We are looking at three different levels of the kit initially:

Stage 1: this stage will focus on stock block and transmission cars. ~500whp goal. (future CARB approval?)

Stage 1.5: Simple pulley swap and a few other upgrades targeted for the ~550-650whp crowd

Stage 2: A beefier version of the kit ready to make 700whp+ It will include an even more robust cooling system and a high pressure setup. We are looking at 16+psi on this setup.

There may be other versions that will come to light as we progress including a CARB approved version of the kit. Please also note that there will NOT be a huge price difference between the stage 1 and 1.5 kit. We want people to be able to grow with the kit and we know that once you go 1.5 your going to need a built motor and/or built transmission (7at). These are significant costs and we want to lessen the blow of the upgrade.

As for today we are feverously 3D printing the parts as fast as we can to get you guys the latest updates. Stay tuned and we are hoping your as excited as we are to release the kit! :happydance:

HapaZ 02-16-2017 06:05 PM

If you get that CARB approval, you get my credit card number :)

Mbreese 02-16-2017 07:25 PM

I can't wait it's gonna be epic

NRGz 02-16-2017 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HapaZ (Post 3616856)
If you get that CARB approval, you get my credit card number :)







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bcfromfl 02-17-2017 01:51 AM

There was a discussion a few posts back about possible hood accommodations/alterations. While you're working out the details of space, and since it's going to require a hood of some sort, active vents (w/small electric fans) might be a good option to include, and greatly beneficial for those who may use it as a daily driver. Heatsoak from stop-and-go with FI is a problem!

Just my two cents...

RJ MFG 02-17-2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bcfromfl (Post 3616978)
There was a discussion a few posts back about possible hood accommodations/alterations. While you're working out the details of space, and since it's going to require a hood of some sort, active vents (w/small electric fans) might be a good option to include, and greatly beneficial for those who may use it as a daily driver. Heatsoak from stop-and-go with FI is a problem!

Just my two cents...

If you daily this on the stage 1 and 1.5 kits you will have zero heatsoak issues. We have over built the cooling in this system to support sustained 1000whp pulls over and over. This is going to be an extremely reliable kit. Remember your getting an oversized Heat exchanger and its twin pass. Meaning that the coolant stays in the heat exchanger longer for more cooling efficiency. In addition to that the Intercooler itself is over sized for the 1 and 1.5 kits. as well as the supercharger will not be maxing out its capabilities meaning the whole unit will stay super cool.

:tup:

MCLOVIN 02-17-2017 11:32 AM

Are we thinking 500whp with headers, straight exhaust or can we expect to say bolt it up to a stock 16 NISMO and expect 500whp? I just can't stand the sound our cars opened up with aftermarket exhaust.


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RJ MFG 02-17-2017 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MCLOVIN (Post 3617105)
Are we thinking 500whp with headers, straight exhaust or can we expect to say bolt it up to a stock 16 NISMO and expect 500whp? I just can't stand the sound our cars opened up with aftermarket exhaust.


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Our goal is to make 500whp or close to it on stock exhaust.

BC416 02-17-2017 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MCLOVIN (Post 3617105)
Are we thinking 500whp with headers, straight exhaust or can we expect to say bolt it up to a stock 16 NISMO and expect 500whp? I just can't stand the sound our cars opened up with aftermarket exhaust.


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First time I've heard this - stock exhaust sounds like a vacuum cleaner at high speed :roflpuke2:

zer099 02-17-2017 12:50 PM

I know it's been mentioned a few times but I didn't find a definitive answer (as you guys also might not have one yet) but what is the plans for the belt layout? What about those of use with an ATI dampener already. And how will this effect upgrading from stages? Additionally, you mentioned use of the 70mm TBs, what about the the 72mm shaftless TBs?


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