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MCLOVIN 02-17-2017 12:51 PM

I didn't say stock sounded good lol but I do prefer it over aftermarket...


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BC416 02-17-2017 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MCLOVIN (Post 3617144)
I didn't say stock sounded good lol but I do prefer it over aftermarket...


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Touche :tup:

TopgunZ 02-17-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MCLOVIN (Post 3617144)
I didn't say stock sounded good lol but I do prefer it over aftermarket...


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If you prefer the sound of a stock exhaust over aftermarket then you just havent heard the right aftermarket.

Fast Intentions with stock cats and 18" resonators is an aphrodisiac. Zero rasp, zero drone, exotic, zero reason to not love it.

cooltoy 02-17-2017 01:17 PM

:iagree::yum:

bcfromfl 02-17-2017 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ MFG (Post 3617103)
If you daily this on the stage 1 and 1.5 kits you will have zero heatsoak issues. We have over built the cooling in this system to support sustained 1000whp pulls over and over. This is going to be an extremely reliable kit. Remember your getting an oversized Heat exchanger and its twin pass. Meaning that the coolant stays in the heat exchanger longer for more cooling efficiency. In addition to that the Intercooler itself is over sized for the 1 and 1.5 kits. as well as the supercharger will not be maxing out its capabilities meaning the whole unit will stay super cool.:tup:

I didn't mean cooling issues with respect to the unit itself, or the intercooler -- just the general buildup of heat within the engine compartment that gets into everything when running a FI system...raising overall temps.

An active venting arrangement could pull cool air up and out through the hood, which would help when sitting idling. Small high-speed fans could be mounted in the hood, with electrical wiring running up the back near the hinges. Perhaps this might offer a good compromise slightly narrowing the differences between water and A2A.

Just a thought.

Bruce

RJ MFG 02-17-2017 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by zer099 (Post 3617142)
I know it's been mentioned a few times but I didn't find a definitive answer (as you guys also might not have one yet) but what is the plans for the belt layout? What about those of use with an ATI dampener already. And how will this effect upgrading from stages? Additionally, you mentioned use of the 70mm TBs, what about the the 72mm shaftless TBs?

We have designed a cog belt system that is direct drive off of the Crank Pulley assembly. We have an adapter for the Stock crank pulley assembly and we are already working on a unit for the ATI unit as well. We are making two different versions as stated above. The choice is your which one you want to run. We can also supply the ATI dampener for anyone wanting to upgrade as well.

For those wanting to run larger than 70mm we can port the intake tubes to match. It would be a custom order at that point. just send us the Throttle bodies and we will send them back fully ported and setup for your application.

RJ MFG 02-17-2017 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bcfromfl (Post 3617169)
I didn't mean cooling issues with respect to the unit itself, or the intercooler -- just the general buildup of heat within the engine compartment that gets into everything when running a FI system...raising overall temps.

An active venting arrangement could pull cool air up and out through the hood, which would help when sitting idling. Small high-speed fans could be mounted in the hood, with electrical wiring running up the back near the hinges. Perhaps this might offer a good compromise slightly narrowing the differences between water and A2A.

Just a thought.

Bruce

That is the reason we are using a vented hood as a base. The hood bump will be vented in the back to allow airflow out the back in the low pressure areas. You will also have vents either side of the hump to concentrate on relieving heat above the header area. There will be plenty of heat extraction with this hood. We have bullitt designing this hood for us and he has a firm grasp of what is needed. He has a good vision of the design and the capabilities to put together a sick product. Adding any more electrical or mechanical complexity just drives up cost and reduces reliability over a well designed hood.

WillVHR 02-17-2017 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3584301)
California guy here, not going to deal with non-CARB vehicle again.

Needs to be a CARB kit
Needs to have A2A cooler
Needs to have MAF and temp sensors in the right place
Needs to be quiet, get rid of the rattly pulley/bearing noise
Avoid needing a $1000 ECU Tuning package
Avoid needing a bunch of misc upgrades to support kit
Produce a real 500WHP with stock Cat and aftermarket exhaust

Yes to all of the above. **** water-to-air.

I say this as someone who runs water-to-air and plans on going air-to-air.

F-U-C-K water-to-air. End. Stop. Speaking this from personal experience.

TopgunZ 02-17-2017 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WillVHR (Post 3617368)
Yes to all of the above. **** water-to-air.

I say this as someone who runs water-to-air and plans on going air-to-air.

F-U-C-K water-to-air. End. Stop. Speaking this from personal experience.

Then you will never run a positive displacement blower as they require Water and Water only. Water to air isn't terrible. It only is when it's under engineered for a given amount of horsepower.

PD blowers can make some insane power and keep intake temps under control, when they are designed correctly.

To say they are Crap is saying that cars like the cts-v is Crap. Guys are pushing that setup to over 750whp, on water without issues. It was done right.

Daily driven Whipple vettes and stangs are making 800+ to the wheels on water all day.

Don't count it out, but the design needs to be legit.

JJ's370z 02-18-2017 05:08 AM

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Man cant wait to see the hood Bullitt comes up with, I hope it keeps the smooth rounded modern lines of the Zed intact - Cant say I was a massive fan of the original hood render on the white Nismo, i thought it was a bit boxy and rectangular.

I always liked the e92 m3 v8's subtle powerdome hood. Vorsteiner made a mint with a GTS3 version looks the bizz!

Obviously our dome would be a lot bigger.

WillVHR 02-18-2017 05:24 AM

Is this going to be water-to-air setup?

James10694 02-18-2017 05:34 AM

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Curtis_J 02-18-2017 07:04 PM

Personally, I'd like to see a hood that has styling elements of the 240z in it.

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Ape Factory 02-18-2017 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ's370z (Post 3617463)
Man cant wait to see the hood Bullitt comes up with, I hope it keeps the smooth rounded modern lines of the Zed intact - Cant say I was a massive fan of the original hood render on the white Nismo, i thought it was a bit boxy and rectangular.

I always liked the e92 m3 v8's subtle powerdome hood. Vorsteiner made a mint with a GTS3 version looks the bizz!

Obviously our dome would be a lot bigger.

I'd hit that and I didn't even want vents. Please, someone make a version like this for the G/Q.

JJ's370z 02-19-2017 04:46 AM

What were you thinking - got any pics?










Speaking of 240's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdUk7AzlqhY

JJ's370z 02-19-2017 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Curtis_J (Post 3617657)
Personally, I'd like to see a hood that has styling elements of the 240z in it.

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What were you thinking - got any pics?










Speaking of 240's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdUk7AzlqhY

Curtis_J 02-19-2017 05:24 AM

No specific pics, but I always liked the dome in the 240z hood. Maybe something like that with a some scoop or venting added in.
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jchammond 02-19-2017 05:37 AM

I've always liked the cowl induction style hood scoops....unsure exactly how many inches of rise is needed.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...49bc34ae03.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...91c0af6fab.jpg


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James10694 02-19-2017 05:31 PM

I think we could rock that with the stock lines that are in the OEM hood

cooltoy 02-19-2017 05:46 PM

Unfortunately, or fortunately (depending on the design), the success of this kit will be determined by the hood design. The hardcore guys won't care, but the majority will judge it by the esthetics.

Curtis_J 02-19-2017 05:50 PM

Agreed. I'd really love to see something that is as subtle as possible, while remaining muscular in profile, and it's gotta look like it's meant to be there, as opposed to an afterthought.

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MCLOVIN 02-19-2017 05:55 PM

I want some more concepts


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Ape Factory 02-19-2017 09:58 PM

If you have a good body shop, the other option would be to simply add a bulge, in metal, and repaint the hood. Cut, weld, paint. Honestly, it should be offered as an option for both the 370z and the G37/Q60. Wouldn't cost a whole lot to produce in quantity either. We'd have the option of using our original hood or purchasing a second hood and modifying it.

How far do we expect the supercharger to sit above the outside face of the stock hood?

bullitt5897 02-19-2017 11:26 PM

Guys the supercharger peak is ~6" above the timing cover. The real question is how far forward will it sit and what is the largest pulley being used. Once I have those details I can start making up the hood. I am still awaiting the hood to start doing general mock ups.

Ape Factory 02-19-2017 11:38 PM

So realistically, we're talking 3" above the OEM hood line? Maybe a bit less? (where'd I put that playdough?)

bullitt5897 02-20-2017 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ape Factory (Post 3618027)
So realistically, we're talking 3" above the OEM hood line? Maybe a bit less? (where'd I put that playdough?)

I am thinking 2" - 3" above the hood in the center. But remember the factory hood drops ~1" around the center so a power dome would be at most 2" taller than a factory hood peak height. Again this is all dependent on pulley size.

bcfromfl 02-20-2017 12:30 AM

They don't make OEM hoods like they used to...unfortunately. It would be nice just to add/retrofit the current hood like guys used to be able to do years ago when hoods were basically just a formed flat sheet of steel. Now, with all the framing on the underside to give it rigidity, there just isn't a good way to cut a hole and add something on top.

I agree with a couple of the comments above -- the hood will make or break the project with the majority of possible enthusiasts. "It's gotta look like it's meant to be there" -- perfect comment.

Ape Factory 02-20-2017 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3618034)
I am thinking 2" - 3" above the hood in the center. But remember the factory hood drops ~1" around the center so a power dome would be at most 2" taller than a factory hood peak height. Again this is all dependent on pulley size.

Keep forgetting that pulley...ok thank you very much for the info. Appreciated.

daveb91 02-20-2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ape Factory (Post 3618001)
If you have a good body shop, the other option would be to simply add a bulge, in metal, and repaint the hood. Cut, weld, paint. Honestly, it should be offered as an option for both the 370z and the G37/Q60. Wouldn't cost a whole lot to produce in quantity either. We'd have the option of using our original hood or purchasing a second hood and modifying it.

How far do we expect the supercharger to sit above the outside face of the stock hood?

A lot have problems working with aluminum. Regular shops that is.

Mbreese 02-21-2017 03:35 PM

I like the style of the 350Z HR with the way it had the rise maybe something like that will be possible! Either way can't wait for it to be released definitely going this route when it becomes available, I've been following RJM for several years and all their products have been pretty much game changer's IMPO ! So to say that a hood would make or break the deal for others I suppose I could see that but I'd bet my lunchbox that whatever they come up with will be top shelf !!!!

B&W_Evader 02-22-2017 12:21 PM

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Mad Max Style

scope22 02-22-2017 12:25 PM

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Mad Max Style


cooltoy 02-22-2017 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3619139)
Mad Max Style

No way I could do better then that.

B&W_Evader 02-22-2017 04:01 PM

LOL

First I read...

No way... I could do better than that.

But I think cooltoy meant it as he wrote it...

(there's) No way I could do better than that.

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scope22 02-22-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 3619171)
No way, I could do better then that.


cooltoy 02-22-2017 04:14 PM

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You are both right.:icon23:

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EZT 02-22-2017 05:49 PM

I'd love to modify my VIS hood with this supercharger.

Jordo! 02-22-2017 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3619139)
Mad Max Style

The original Mad Max film is pretty much what first got me into cars (and superchargers) as a kid :tup:

bullitt5897 02-23-2017 12:30 AM

What are people's thoughts on a ZL1 style hood?

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psuxhjxlru.jpg

bcfromfl 02-23-2017 01:12 AM

I think in order to visualize this correctly, you need to start with the OEM bumper/air dam.

Remember the heat Mazda took with their front-end that looked too much like a face? This mock-up strikes me as a bit...awkward. I could be wrong, but I don't think the bulge needs to be this big.

Also, while some guys like open vents, as a practical feature for all-weather conditions, it probably isn't a good idea. Covered vents is maybe better.

Just my two cents...


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