Whats needed for TT Install?

alanforn · 10-31-2016, 01:17 PM

Well I dropped my car off this morning at AAM for TT install, very excited needless to say. Likely be there about 2 weeks, their tuner is at SEMA which may add a few additional days. I've asked that they forward me some progress pics which I will share as they come to me.

Alan

alanforn · 10-31-2016, 01:22 PM

Build List

TT Kit
Injectors
Fuel Pump
Oil, Coolant, AC recharge, alignment, Motul RBF 600
Comp Clutch 3 puck ceramic
3" true duals
Heavy Duty CSC

ZOperaMan · 10-31-2016, 01:53 PM

^ Don't see an LSD (Quaife, etc.) on your list. You will really need both back tires to get all that power to the road. That was the FIRST mod I did, along with a better clutch, before the TT.

--ZOM

Chuck33079 · 10-31-2016, 01:55 PM

Plus, you need to install the clutch before the kit, so it can be broken in before dyno tuning.

Hotrodz · 10-31-2016, 03:05 PM

Also needed is a rear differential bushing kit and fuel return system. A LSD is not needed but will improve performance significantly.

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solidus · 10-31-2016, 07:15 PM

The things listed above are on your must have list in the very near future but at a minimum you need to talk to them about what boost controller they're familiar with and prefer and also get some aftermarket motormounts and a trans mount to them while the motor is out. If you don't have the ability then also take them some diff bushings since the car will be sitting anyway.

alanforn · 11-02-2016, 08:46 AM

Thank you all for the additional comments. Yes, lightened flywheel and oil cooler are on the list. Since we're going into cooler weather I'm hoping to get away with stock radiator for a few months until spring. The electronics is another area I have no knowledge base on, for the time being I just want them to set it and forget it..in other words I don't want to tempted by a boost knob right away and do something stupid. Do I really need to have additional gauges, etc. right off the bat?

Chuck33079 · 11-02-2016, 08:55 AM

Absolutely. A boost and afr gauge are crucial to make sure your car is running right. And you might not make the power you're paying for without a boost controller.

And waiting to do the radiator just means you'll pay a good chunk of the labor twice. They have to take off most of the front end to install the kit, so the radiator is an easy add. Once everything is buttoned up, it's not so easy.

solidus · 11-02-2016, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Absolutely. A boost and afr gauge are crucial to make sure your car is running right. And you might not make the power you're paying for without a boost controller.

And waiting to do the radiator just means you'll pay a good chunk of the labor twice. They have to take off most of the front end to install the kit, so the radiator is an easy add. Once everything is buttoned up, it's not so easy.

Yup because then you'll be paying for them to remove the oil cooler and intercooler all over again. It might pinch a bit but just get it done the first time to keep from paying for it twice. As far as the boost controller, I'm that guy. If it can be blown up, I'm gonna blow it up. A good bit of advice is to have them install one for you and just "You" don't touch it. I know this from experience 23psi on a stock block is the most amazing thing you'll ever feel for about 4 seconds.

theDreamer · 11-02-2016, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Absolutely. A boost and afr gauge are crucial to make sure your car is running right. And you might not make the power you're paying for without a boost controller.

And waiting to do the radiator just means you'll pay a good chunk of the labor twice. They have to take off most of the front end to install the kit, so the radiator is an easy add. Once everything is buttoned up, it's not so easy.

Oh it cannot be any worse than the V-band for the SC intake....

alanforn · 11-14-2016, 04:56 PM

I've had the TT setup for a week now, incredible how it transformed the car. I purchased the AAM kit and they installed it since I'm so close. I've asked them a few dumb questions over the last week and they have been very patient answering them. One thing that has occurred twice now is low oil pressure light (on the tach) has briefly lit up, once as I was letting the car cool down after a drive and today as I was braking and turning into my driveway. When the light comes on (second or so at the most) the idle dips briefly with the light almost to the point I think its going to stall. I asked them about the light and they said it happens on occasion because of the spacer plate they use between the block and oil pan to increase oil but mainly to place plumbing, they say the oil sensor is located fairly high in the block and altering the overall height between the bottom of pan and block causes this glitch once in a while. Has anyone experienced this or agree? AAM has been great to work with so I almost hate to ask the question (and doubt what they told me)

ZOperaMan · 11-14-2016, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanforn

I've had the TT setup for a week now, incredible how it transformed the car. I purchased the AAM kit and they installed it since I'm so close. I've asked them a few dumb questions over the last week and they have been very patient answering them. One thing that has occurred twice now is low oil pressure light (on the tach) has briefly lit up, once as I was letting the car cool down after a drive and today as I was braking and turning into my driveway. When the light comes on (second or so at the most) the idle dips briefly with the light almost to the point I think its going to stall. I asked them about the light and they said it happens on occasion because of the spacer plate they use between the block and oil pan to increase oil but mainly to place plumbing, they say the oil sensor is located fairly high in the block and altering the overall height between the bottom of pan and block causes this glitch once in a while. Has anyone experienced this or agree? AAM has been great to work with so I almost hate to ask the question (and doubt what they told me)

Yes, happened to me this week on my new AAM TT build! Took it to the tech, who measured pressure via computer, and it was within the normal ranges.

--ZOM

Jayhovah · 11-15-2016, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanforn

I asked them about the light and they said it happens on occasion because of the spacer plate they use between the block and oil pan to increase oil but mainly to place plumbing, they say the oil sensor is located fairly high in the block and altering the overall height between the bottom of pan and block causes this glitch once in a while. Has anyone experienced this or agree? AAM has been great to work with so I almost hate to ask the question (and doubt what they told me)

I don't really understand this. Is this a different sensor than the pressure sensor that is located near the bottom of the front face of the motor?

If it is the same sensor, how could altering the height cause this glitch? My understanding is that the sensor is just a dumb pressure sensor that is after the oil pickup (after all, the oil pan is not pressurized....) so if it is reporting low oil pressure for a second.... it would seem to me that you have low oil pressure for that second.

I have a high capacity oil pan and there is a spacer on my oil pickup. I've never had my oil pressure light come on.

If anyone can shed more light on this, please do so!

Chuck33079 · 11-15-2016, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah

I don't really understand this. Is this a different sensor than the pressure sensor that is located near the bottom of the front face of the motor?

If it is the same sensor, how could altering the height cause this glitch? My understanding is that the sensor is just a dumb pressure sensor that is after the oil pickup (after all, the oil pan is not pressurized....) so if it is reporting low oil pressure for a second.... it would seem to me that you have low oil pressure for that second.

I have a high capacity oil pan and there is a spacer on my oil pickup. I've never had my oil pressure light come on.

If anyone can shed more light on this, please do so!

Doesn't that light come on at ~3ish psi of pressure? That doesn't give me warm fuzzy feelings about the build. Might want to have a local trusted shop give a second opinion.

Chuck33079 · 11-02-2016, 09:07 AM

You can get a manual boost controller and just not mess with it. It's under the hood, not in the cabin where you would mess with it.

10-31-2016, 01:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
alanforn Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Crownsville Maryland Posts: 63 Drives: 2009 370z Brilliant Rep Power: 9	Well I dropped my car off this morning at AAM for TT install, very excited needless to say. Likely be there about 2 weeks, their tuner is at SEMA which may add a few additional days. I've asked that they forward me some progress pics which I will share as they come to me. Alan TechnicZ, YzGyz and EliteXpress like this.

10-31-2016, 01:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Plus, you need to install the clutch before the kit, so it can be broken in before dyno tuning. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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11-02-2016, 08:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Whats needed for TT Install? Absolutely. A boost and afr gauge are crucial to make sure your car is running right. And you might not make the power you're paying for without a boost controller. And waiting to do the radiator just means you'll pay a good chunk of the labor twice. They have to take off most of the front end to install the kit, so the radiator is an easy add. Once everything is buttoned up, it's not so easy. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

11-02-2016, 09:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	You can get a manual boost controller and just not mess with it. It's under the hood, not in the cabin where you would mess with it. blueranger likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

10-31-2016, 01:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
alanforn Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Crownsville Maryland Posts: 63 Drives: 2009 370z Brilliant Rep Power: 9	Build List TT Kit Injectors Fuel Pump Oil, Coolant, AC recharge, alignment, Motul RBF 600 Comp Clutch 3 puck ceramic 3" true duals Heavy Duty CSC

10-31-2016, 01:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
ZOperaMan Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 82 Drives: 09 TT370z Yellow 6MT Rep Power: 16	^ Don't see an LSD (Quaife, etc.) on your list. You will really need both back tires to get all that power to the road. That was the FIRST mod I did, along with a better clutch, before the TT. --ZOM

10-31-2016, 07:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
solidus Track Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 694 Drives: 15' Nismo Black 6MT Rep Power: 10081	The things listed above are on your must have list in the very near future but at a minimum you need to talk to them about what boost controller they're familiar with and prefer and also get some aftermarket motormounts and a trans mount to them while the motor is out. If you don't have the ability then also take them some diff bushings since the car will be sitting anyway.

11-02-2016, 08:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
alanforn Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Crownsville Maryland Posts: 63 Drives: 2009 370z Brilliant Rep Power: 9	Thank you all for the additional comments. Yes, lightened flywheel and oil cooler are on the list. Since we're going into cooler weather I'm hoping to get away with stock radiator for a few months until spring. The electronics is another area I have no knowledge base on, for the time being I just want them to set it and forget it..in other words I don't want to tempted by a boost knob right away and do something stupid. Do I really need to have additional gauges, etc. right off the bat?

11-14-2016, 04:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
alanforn Base Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Crownsville Maryland Posts: 63 Drives: 2009 370z Brilliant Rep Power: 9	I've had the TT setup for a week now, incredible how it transformed the car. I purchased the AAM kit and they installed it since I'm so close. I've asked them a few dumb questions over the last week and they have been very patient answering them. One thing that has occurred twice now is low oil pressure light (on the tach) has briefly lit up, once as I was letting the car cool down after a drive and today as I was braking and turning into my driveway. When the light comes on (second or so at the most) the idle dips briefly with the light almost to the point I think its going to stall. I asked them about the light and they said it happens on occasion because of the spacer plate they use between the block and oil pan to increase oil but mainly to place plumbing, they say the oil sensor is located fairly high in the block and altering the overall height between the bottom of pan and block causes this glitch once in a while. Has anyone experienced this or agree? AAM has been great to work with so I almost hate to ask the question (and doubt what they told me)

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