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James10694 06-20-2017 03:20 PM

Looks good^

James10694 06-20-2017 03:20 PM

What are you guys thoughts on ceramic coating the hot side piping and DEI wrap. I'm Las Vegas and it's EXTREMELY hot

PongSanity 06-20-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by James10694 (Post 3666580)
What are you guys thoughts on ceramic coating the hot side piping and DEI wrap. I'm Las Vegas and it's EXTREMELY hot

Yo do it! Heat management is always a plus

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jwick 06-20-2017 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PongSanity (Post 3666547)
Here's a pic of my engine bay with the admin tuning dual catch can/coolant reservoir. I ran my lines along side the engine towards the pcv valves. My engine bay doesn't look different than a boosted engine bay. My intake piping is 3 inch in size as well.

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That's not a true comparison as you are still routing the lines back into the intake. The BP intakes don't have that plumbed back in but vented to atmosphere. You can't simply route it back in post turbo. The majority of the discussion we had a few years back was to try and eliminate the idle drop when coming to a stop. Most of us believe the reasoning for it is either turbo location or the fact that the ECU is expecting the crankcase vent to be plumbed in and it causes issues since it's vented to atmosphere. Getting a workable solution to route that back in is where we all got stumped and far as I know there is still not a solution.

PongSanity 06-20-2017 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3666677)
That's not a true comparison as you are still routing the lines back into the intake. The BP intakes don't have that plumbed back in but vented to atmosphere. You can't simply route it back in post turbo. The majority of the discussion we had a few years back was to try and eliminate the idle drop when coming to a stop. Most of us believe the reasoning for it is either turbo location or the fact that the ECU is expecting the crankcase vent to be plumbed in and it causes issues since it's vented to atmosphere. Getting a workable solution to route that back in is where we all got stumped and far as I know there is still not a solution.

My catch can is not recirculated though. All four vented to atmosphere. No caps on the inner ones. Similar to a breather filters which come with the kit, just collecting the oil valors into a can.

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PongSanity 06-20-2017 07:15 PM

also there is no inlet on my intake piping.

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jwick 06-20-2017 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PongSanity (Post 3666679)
My catch can is not recirculated though. All four vented to atmosphere. No caps on the inner ones. Similar to a breather filters which come with the kit, just collecting the oil valors into a can.

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Didn't catch that in the photo. How much oil do you collect?

PongSanity 06-20-2017 10:01 PM

Haven't drained the can since installation. But I doubt it's a lot. Barely been getting on it lately

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Jayhovah 06-21-2017 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PongSanity (Post 3666679)
My catch can is not recirculated though. All four vented to atmosphere. No caps on the inner ones. Similar to a breather filters which come with the kit, just collecting the oil valors into a can.

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How do you get air to flow through the separators? I might be confused about the routing.. not much experience with this.

LateShow24 06-21-2017 05:46 PM

Will this BP kit work with Zspeed CMAK slave delete ?? If not could you make an adjustment to the piping not dealing with that slave again??

jwick 06-22-2017 12:35 PM

My vote is no but I'm not positive anyone has actually tried it. Looking at the pictures I'm positive it won't work on my BP setup but I have a V1.0 manifold.

I wouldn't recommend modifying the piping to accommodate it.

James10694 06-25-2017 12:26 AM

Yum
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James10694 06-25-2017 05:55 PM

Any Z BP owners running an exhaust other than fast intentions? I bought a new kit 2nd hand and the exhaust connection was left open. Just looking to see if there any other options I may like while I have the opportunity.

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Ni55anPat 06-26-2017 06:49 PM

I'm running the motordyne exhaust and i love it.

James10694 06-28-2017 12:14 AM

Got any videos? I'd love to hear it

photoguy1 07-01-2017 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ni55anPat (Post 3668484)
I'm running the motordyne exhaust and i love it.

Did it quiet it down a whole lot..? Or is it just as loud with turbo noises mine's going on in mid july and definitely don't wanna lose the motordyne sound.

sirnixalot 07-01-2017 08:46 AM

looking at this and the z fever kit, and where I'd rather not have all that heat right in the bay I also need the intake higher than where the BP kit's filter ends up.

Is there any way in hell to fit a 3" intake tube up the passenger side to get the filter some where in the engine bay? I live where when it rains it RAINS and there is alot of standing water since the island is flat and at sea level.

jwick 07-01-2017 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sirnixalot (Post 3670140)
looking at this and the z fever kit, and where I'd rather not have all that heat right in the bay I also need the intake higher than where the BP kit's filter ends up.

Is there any way in hell to fit a 3" intake tube up the passenger side to get the filter some where in the engine bay? I live where when it rains it RAINS and there is alot of standing water since the island is flat and at sea level.


You could probably fabricate an intake pipe and route the filter wherever you want but I don't think it's required. You would have to drive thru water deeper than the center of your axel hubs before you would get water on the filter. Driving through a puddle won't matter cuz there's enough heat to evaporate it away.

What most people don't realize is some of the TT lots have he filter just as low. The GTM kit route the filter to the bumper where the washer fluid reservoir used to be and it's about the same elevation as my BP filter.

Elmo370z 07-01-2017 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sirnixalot (Post 3670140)
looking at this and the z fever kit, and where I'd rather not have all that heat right in the bay I also need the intake higher than where the BP kit's filter ends up.

Is there any way in hell to fit a 3" intake tube up the passenger side to get the filter some where in the engine bay? I live where when it rains it RAINS and there is alot of standing water since the island is flat and at sea level.

Let me know how to Z fever kit works out for you.:inoutroflpuke:

sirnixalot 07-02-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3670158)
You could probably fabricate an intake pipe and route the filter wherever you want but I don't think it's required. You would have to drive thru water deeper than the center of your axel hubs before you would get water on the filter. Driving through a puddle won't matter cuz there's enough heat to evaporate it away.

What most people don't realize is some of the TT lots have he filter just as low. The GTM kit route the filter to the bumper where the washer fluid reservoir used to be and it's about the same elevation as my BP filter.


It's kind of hard to tell looking at the underside pics of the BP kits but it seemed like the filter was just above the subframe. looks like I should be ok if it's above the hub center. Thanks

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3670366)
Let me know how to Z fever kit works out for you.:inoutroflpuke:

I'll let you know which ever route I take :ughdance:

Perez04 07-03-2017 07:20 PM

Any differences in the kit if its going on a G37?

For those who are running a Motordyne Exhaust, are you running the 2.5 inch or 3 inch turbo version?

Jayhovah 07-05-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sirnixalot (Post 3670140)
looking at this and the z fever kit, and where I'd rather not have all that heat right in the bay I also need the intake higher than where the BP kit's filter ends up.

Is there any way in hell to fit a 3" intake tube up the passenger side to get the filter some where in the engine bay? I live where when it rains it RAINS and there is alot of standing water since the island is flat and at sea level.

Z Fever in Tampa? Do some research first. They do not have the greatest reputation and have put out some hackjobs in the past.

sirnixalot 07-05-2017 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3671434)
Z Fever in Tampa? Do some research first. They do not have the greatest reputation and have put out some hackjobs in the past.

Thanks for clarifying, so far my single turbo search results came up with BP, Z fever and STS.

My main hesitation was the oil less turbo part. I would LOVE to get an BW S362 or EFR8374 in place of the COMP turbo but the COMP's seem pretty damned reliable once the service instructions are followed.

I'll get my self in a position to join in on the BP kit on the next round or 2. :tup:

Jayhovah 07-05-2017 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sirnixalot (Post 3671481)
Thanks for clarifying, so far my single turbo search results came up with BP, Z fever and STS.

My main hesitation was the oil less turbo part. I would LOVE to get an BW S362 or EFR8374 in place of the COMP turbo but the COMP's seem pretty damned reliable once the service instructions are followed.

I'll get my self in a position to join in on the BP kit on the next round or 2. :tup:

No problem. Would hate to see you get jobbed by someone.... I DO wish they were reputable as they are local to me... FYI I don't think Z Fever ships their kit- I think you have to ship them your car so they can hack it on themselves. If that is something you are interested in, there are some great shops that will do a custom top-mount style single turbo job for you - I believe JTRAN in Houston has done it and they have a great rep. Incidentally, they also tuned my car and are great/honest people who have gone above and beyond to ensure my satisfaction.

STS also has a poor reputation, and if you go read a book about turbocharging you will start to realize the flaws inherent to their design.

For our platform, and in kit form, the only real choice for single turbo is the BP kit which has a great reputation. Had I not gotten such a great deal on my TT setup, I'd probably be a BP user myself. Good luck and do a lot of reading in this subforum - there is a ton of knowledge stored here.

jwick 07-05-2017 02:39 PM

JTran is no longer open to the public.

Jayhovah 07-05-2017 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3671490)
JTran is no longer open to the public.

I've heard that elsewhere too... Though it seems they are still taking care of previous customers to some extent. Glad to be "grandfathered" in there.... but sad for the community to lose such an awesome shop.

Coincidentally, I happened to exchange facebook messages with Johnny today. I scored an Ecutek tuning cable/dongle not long ago and he is going to touch my tune up for a few things dating back to when I got tuned 1.5 years ago.. they never got addressed since I pretty much got tuned and then drove 1000 miles away immediately. Great service still, too bad they aren't taking on new work.

jwick 07-05-2017 02:57 PM

JTran is no longer open to the public.

Ni55anPat 07-17-2017 01:08 PM

Its emission time for me.....i installed mini cats and the P0430 and P0420 has not appeared but i keep getting the P2A00 pending and evantually throwing the CEL.

"o2 sensor circuit range/ performance bank 1 sensor 1"

Anybody else had the issue?

jwick 07-17-2017 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ni55anPat (Post 3675647)
Its emission time for me.....i installed mini cats and the P0430 and P0420 has not appeared but i keep getting the P2A00 pending and evantually throwing the CEL.



"o2 sensor circuit range/ performance bank 1 sensor 1"



Anybody else had the issue?


Sensor 1 is the fuel trim sensor. If I recall properly it's the passenger side that sits directly over the turbo. Mine gave me issues after install. I replaced it and code went away. I also wrapped the sensor wiring and harness with thermo-etc heat sleeve.

Ni55anPat 07-18-2017 08:06 AM

It's the air fuel o2 sensor correct?

jwick 07-18-2017 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ni55anPat (Post 3675890)
It's the air fuel o2 sensor correct?


It's the one the ECU uses to control AFR. Sensor 2 is the one post cat.

James10694 07-31-2017 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3663097)
Sasha makes a Y that specifically fits the FI exhaust , so that's a go but the test pipes go bye bye because the turbo manifold connects direct to the exhaust manifold. Money well spent would be the CJM fuel return, upgrading the injectors to 1000+ and upgrading the fuel pump. The fuel pump and injector upgrade is'nt really necessary if you're satisfied with being in the 500's because you'll make a bit over 500rwhp safely with a stock block.Also invest in a good turbo blanket, titanium heat wrap, heat sleeves for the vacuum lines and transmission wiring harness. Install and break in the clutch before you get the kit and forget buying an oil cooler as Sasha provides a very good one with the kit.

Ill be starting my install in a couple of weeks. Anyone have specifics or links to what they bought for sizing on heat sleeves and turbo bag Ive read about the transmission harness getting crispy so I'm paranoid about that. I saw some stuff by DEI on summits website but I'm not sure what I need.

jwick 07-31-2017 09:56 PM

TAKING ORDERS for winter 2017 turbo kits
 
DEI Titanium is what you want for header wrap and turbo bag. I went with Therm-tec heat sleeve for all wires and hoses. I bought it all on Summit.

Don't buy the bs ties for the header wrap. Invest in a good set of safety tie pliers and learn how to safety tie.

jax4557 07-31-2017 10:08 PM

I have my k-member/motor out and I figured it's a good time as any to go ahead and change out the air filter. Has anyone come up with a direct replacement air filter for the kit? My air filter has become very brittle and appears burnt/melted. Has anyone come up with a way to extend the filter into a more accessible and arguably cooler area up front?

solidus 08-04-2017 08:45 AM

For future ref. the filter for our kits is the custom 4" 20* filter from Buschur racing. I paid 89.00 for it and I've already been through 2. The first one was my fault, the second one bubbled and deformed on the compressor. I gold wrapped the base of #3 to mitigate heat and we'll see how that one goes when I upgrade my turbo.

jwick 08-04-2017 09:17 AM

Are y'all not running a turbo bag?

elperuano 08-04-2017 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3682308)
Are y'all not running a turbo bag?

I'm running my kit with no heat guards in place. 13k miles later no real issue except a hot start issue. Replaced starter and gold wrapped starter and haven't had a problem since. My starter was also 4 years old so maybe it was on its way out.

jwick 08-04-2017 10:18 AM

Starter on the driver or passenger side of tranny?

jwick 08-04-2017 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 3682311)
I'm running my kit with no heat guards in place. 13k miles later no real issue except a hot start issue. Replaced starter and gold wrapped starter and haven't had a problem since. My starter was also 4 years old so maybe it was on its way out.



What were your final numbers?

jax4557 08-04-2017 11:21 AM

My filter was bubbled and crumbling when I took my kit off for engine repairs. I really want to look into aluminum 3" or 4" to the front bumper/fender well. AAM TT kit has an intake pipe right through that area so I would imagine it can work.

I also have a hot start issue but its only on 93 pump gas after some thrashing so I think it is a tune issue, on E85 I have no issues.



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