it would be great for them to have then thoughts and input on this forum. It would help them boost sales and answer all questions we might have. All we know is 474whp on 7.5 psi

and we still don't know what size turbo is back there do we?

kinda odd...

Yeah although I have a G37 Coupe, I tried to contact them on details of the kit weeks ago and still have heard nothing.

from my experience with them, sts is hit and miss on communication. Especially with our market group. We are never going to be one of their big cash cows so I feel like that leaves them with less than stellar desire to go back and forth via email with us sometimes. Try contacting rick squires directly via email and you will actually usually get a response.

I am sold on the STS turbo and here is why:

1. Its a bolt on! on in 8 to 10 hours and off and back to stock in 2 hours.
2. No xtra heat under the hood melting stuff ie-Turbonetics (been there done that and never again)
3. No need for expensive exhaust system.
4. Colder air coming into the Turbo due to long pipes and them not being inside the engine bay getting heated up.
5. Awesome sound!
6. STS is within a half days driving distance from me in Denver.
7. Similar in cost to a supercharger but with Twin Turbo Performance

Add the biggest plus would be better weight distrrabution !

Definitly, another advantage. I have read and researched extensively and I dont see much of a downside to the STS system. I have been down the road with the Turbonetics kit on my 2005 350Z and I would never go down that path again. The heat from the Turbo caused me nothing but trouble.

I feel if I have STS tune my car I stand the best chance of getting it tuned to my car correctly. Orem Utah is at a similar elevation to us folks in the mile high city. I don't see that I can have my car accurately tuned on either the west or east coast becasue of the elevation difference.

The rear mount turbo setup is nice and has a lot of benefits. The only thing I do not like is how exposed it is. What if something hits the filter and breaks it? Then you may have trouble with something hitting the turbo blades. Or what if something hits the turbo itself and destroys it?

EDIT: You guys might want to read this as it is pretty informative.

A Remote Mount Turbo For 350z - Page 4 - MY350Z.COM Forums

The filter hitting something would be highly unlikely. The filter is up inside the rear quarter panel behind the rear tire and is completely protected. Not even water will get anywhere near it.

The turbo is in the open but it doesent get really hot back there so if a little water gets splashed on it, it wont hurt it at all. Turbo's only get super hot when they are attached to manifolds at the source of the exhaust. I have seen them get so hot they glow, however this could never happen on an STS system.

I dont know about the rest of you but I dont run over garbage and debris that is on the road and I certainly dont take my Z anywhere where I might even have the possibility of bottoming it out. I also highly doubt someone can remove the turbo in minutes. Not likely!! Anyway that is why we have insurance and that would covered since its bolted and integrated into the car. Even if my car was a DD I would not worry about it.

I read the thread and there is nothing new that I havent read already on related posted hundreds over and over. There is always going to be someone who will tell you to never do it. Some people seem to really know what they are talking about but the vast majority have no clue but think they are experts. I just filter out the later and take it with a grain of salt.

I doubt insurance would cover it as it's not OEM.

The fact that the piping is so low is also a major concern. Sure, you never intend to run over any debris, but if you take your car anywhere, chances are you will.

I am insured with State Farm since I was 16 so I can't speak for other insurance companies.

I have asked my agent on whats covered in a car and everything that is integrated or bolted into the car is covered under comprehensive and collision. It doesent matter if the car came with it or not, if it is an integral part of the car it is covered.

I got rear ended last Spring in my Z and my custom subwoofer enclosure was damaged and my insurance company paid Car Toys to build me a new enclosure exactly like the one I had. This wasnt a problem since they built in in the first place.

As long as it is part of the car (attached) they are supposed to cover it, where you run into a problem is when they decide it's cheaper to just total it rather then replace your parts. Sure they'll give you the value of what the car is worth, but your out for the rest... go ahead, as me how I know. :facepalm:
It's not really to much of a problem unless you start spending a ton of money on it, and apparently I still haven't learned my lesson because it looks like I'll be doing it again with the Z :ughdance:

Yes certain insurance companies will cover it. Mine does.

I have amfam and they've told me that if i turbo or supercharge my car they will drop me so no the don't cover it depends on the company i guess i'd get state farm but my parents have an amfam plan too so it's cheaper for me.

That's a good point, forced induction is probably the exception to the rule. I never asked specifically about that

most insurance companies will cover a certain amount of modifications automatically, mine was up to $1k. The rest you have to report the value to them and they will adjust your rates accordingly. There are a few threads on my350z dealing with this.

My wife had AmFam before we got married and they jerked her around over stupid stuff. I put her on my policy and dumped AmFam. I would only use them if I had no other choice

ya that sucks for you. I have everything covered on my insurance. so its somethings happens I pay a deductible and ill get a check for the new parts. And i believe the total of extra parts on my car add up to over 11k

have you actually tested this out? You could easily have a car with $100k worth of modifications, and with what you're saying the insurance company will cover it for the same rate that someone with a stock Z would pay? Somehow I doubt that.

You're right. I assure you, they will not. If you manage to convince them the car is in fact worth what you say it is, they would want receipts for everything which they will then look up and determine their own value... then they will total your car, give you essentially nothing, and raise your rates. If you were to even get the full value for a Stock car at that point then you should consider your self lucky. If they want to be ******** about it they will Deduct for every aftermarket part unless you can supply the factory originals to replace it with.
Then they will probably raise your rates either way.

If you get the car appraised and then you can have it insured for the value they determine it's worth (or probably whatever you want) but your rates would be adjusted accordingly.

This is not my first rodeo, I've been through this to many times and I am speaking from experience here. If you actually read your insurance policy (most people don't) you'll see a frightening amount of exclusions like pretty much everything. They have them written so they don't have to do anything they don't want to, essentially they are doing you a favor... or at least that's how they see it :facepalm: It's a business and their out to make money not help us.

somehow your wrong. Everything in my car is insured. all 4 sets of my wheels, body kit, stereo and engine parts.
plus theirs something called car show insurance. 70% parts on my car is aftermarket. You have to call your insurance company to inquire about it and not assume ohh no they wont. Dont assume.

your right they wont cover oem its only aftermarket for my insurance company.

Who is your insurance company? How much are you paying for that kind of coverage?

I know you CAN get your aftermarket stuff insured but you made it sound as though a regular insurance company that had no knowledge of your aftermarket parts and didn't adjust your rates accordingly was going to cover an unlimited amount of aftermarket parts. I was the only one who inferred that from your post.

I am paying 1800 a year. I have wawenesa insurance.

My company didnt adjust the rate of my premium. Its included in the insurance.

but it must have been based off of what you told them was on the car in the first place. Again, all I'm saying is that no one is going to insure 50k or 100k worth of modifications for the same price they would insure a stock 270z for.

ugh noooo.

can we stay on topic please =]!

thank you.

well then they're bsing you. Again how is it possible that they can stay in business insuring a car with 11k in mods for the same amount that they would charge someone with $100k in mods. Common sense dude.

I dont have time for petty questions back and forth that isnt related to this topic. . "Common sense" is when you can do your own research so you can sleep better. I have my insurance and i love what is offers. Who cares what you think.


Now please stay on topic regarding STS Turbo. If not please dont add your:twocents:

they cover it as an every day DD, no limitations as to only being driven for shows? If not thats pretty cool.

Wow, talk about off-topic.

Are there any decent quality sound clips of the VHR STS setup? Sounds like my V6 Galant first did when I turbo'd it (i.e. like crap - needed a better muffler and resonator badly).

I see you can't answer my question.

btw I don't care how "off topic" it gets... This guy is in here spreading misinformation on a subject that is extremely important to people with modified cars. The simple truth of the matter is, if an insurance company is going to insure your modifications they are going to need to be able to approximate the value of what they're insuring and set/adjust the rates accordingly. There is absolutely no way any professional underwriting company would say this is your premium for your modified car whether you have $300 worth of modifications or $300,000. Period.

^^well said!

now back to the turbo setup

so, whats going on with the updates on sts?

yeah.... what is going on with the sts? Can we at least get the specs on the turbo itself?