10k gets you a tune, upgrades are as you need them, oil cooler is right away along with some gauges. 3k for shipping? WTF, no.

Lets break it down
-TT kit: 8-10k for kit, 3k for install, 3k for needed upgrades - Total of 14k-16k
That is about what most have been paying to do a good clean install and be safe with proper upgrades.

-STS kit: 6.5k, 3k for install, 3k for needed upgrades, does the kit come with a tune if not a possible 1k there for tuning, unknown kit design with possible problems we will throw in another 1k - Total of 12500-14500
This is a untested kit on our car and clearly no support on the forum yet from the makers of this kit. Also, unwated low pipes on the underside of the car may cause issues down the road.

You are about right with your estimate, the 15k-17k number is thrown around because the first TT installs were about that. Though those guys all had shops do the work and did 'extras' that may not be required. Such as replace the stock gauges with aftermarket, a lot of labor to tear that down.


I am not putting this kit down or anything, but from the pictures I see, you get savings of around 2k for a single turbo setup that is under the car. I would spend the extra 2k on piece of mind and knowing I have good vendors here that support the current TT kits and will jump in to help in anyways possible.

Lmao.. 1k-1.5k to ship the car one way. Multiply that x2 = what? 2-3k, but yea driving it back might be better, but still gotta pay for gas.. right?
Brings your total to 19k+ lil shy under 20k right? Just a rough estimate.
Wasn't really an exact figure, but I was trying to say..
If this kit cost 3k for the universal + labor (should be lower since it's easier to install?) so around let's say 3k max for install and fabrication that's 6k spent. You can use the stock exhaust with this kit. still @ 6k.. + tune + upgrades.
If it's under 7-8k then why the hell would I spend 20k on the other one XD
Might as well buy another car with that 20k or make a down payment on a decent house.

Sounds like a high revving race car!!! :D

This STS kit is $6500 where did you get 3k?
1k to ship, you are over paying, also you are in Texas, plenty of good shops around that you can drive to easily. Also, you said 6k total (assuming 3k for the kit :rofl2:) and then tune plus upgrades is 7-8k. Upgrades are standard between the two kits, it is 3-5k for upgrades you might or will need.

The differences between these two kits are:
-Price for kit (6500 v. 8000): Also, what comes with this kit besides the piping and turbo? Do you get bigger injectors, fuel upgrades, etc.? If not, that is more you have to add to the STS price.
-Install (Unknown difference)

With either kit you are going to spend a minimum of $12,000 to get it on and running, after that you are on your own for upgrades or other items you need.

lol doesnt cost 1k for shipping. Its 6400 shipped to your front door. Install 3k for an install then you getting screwed. Average rate for labor is $99 an hour. So your saying 30 hours for install? idk. The kit comes with injectors and an upgraded fuel system. The only items you need is a camp hks 2 and a oil cooler.

30 hours of install sounds about right, since no need to drop the motor I would think, but I have never seen an STS system put together fully so not sure how easy/hard it is to route all the piping.

nope dont need 30 hours. They said its about 14-18 hours depending on the knowledge of the installer.

Interesting, even a SC install is 30 hours and that is pretty damn drop in place for our car as it can be.
Redo my numbers:
-6500 kit
-2500 install & tune
-500 ship
-2000 - first set of upgrades
_______
11,500

That will get you on the street with the it and be safe, you might be able to knock some off the install/tune section as it will be done all at once.

Squires Turbo Systems - Universal
I was talking about the Universal turbo :)
$1995.00
Anyways, sure 20k probably was an over-exaggeration, but from the other threads I've seen 18k+ xD
If this can be built for under 8k. I'd get it.
http://pi.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/i/zpipecenter.jpg
basically what the kit's gonna look like. Doesn't look too bad..

I do not think you can get away with the Universal system.
Even if you do, you still have to purchase many other items.

Emailed Outperformance shop. I showed the vid to my friend yesterday and funny thing is he knew the street where the video was taken from the Nismo STS.
Said that was in Plfugerville, TX but the shop is @ Grand Prairie. :) not bad.
If the price is reasonable being not over 8k.. Then basically gonna drive up there and drop my car off mwuahaa, but first it's gotta come out of the collision center first from it's recent fender bender lmao.

It's a rear mount turbo. If you can follow instructions, you shouldn't have any problems installing this kit. Should be much easier than GTM TT.

The bolt on cost 6500
The universal cost 2000

Just an FYI, outperformanceshop was banned from this site due to shady dealings...I wouldn't trust them with my Z if my life depended on it.

Sooo... any reputable shops in Austin/Lubbock/Midland/Odessa/Dallas?

Houston - Baker Tuning

Dallas - JoTech ($$$$$$)

not sure on any others to be honest.

Boost Logic is around Austin, but not sure of their rep.
I know they have some great shop cars, but never had any personal experiences from friends use them.

Ah okay thanks guys. Outperformance is saying:

Hi ______,

We're still doing some final road testing on our Nismo 370z.

Are you local to Dallas / Fort Worth? I may have an opportunity for you on this kit. Is your car a base 370z? Non-Nismo?

What style would you like?

Options:
Journal Bearing Turbocharger GT60-1 (standard rated @ 620 crank horsepower / 15psi)
Ball Bearing Turbocharger GT60-1 +$700 (upgrade for quicker spool / rated @ 620 crank horsepower / 15psi)
Ball Bearing Turbocharger GT67 +1000 (upgrade rated @ 750 crank horsepower / 15psi)

What's your phone number?

I won't give my # to him. No point, he can tell me the price via e-mail.
I just want a rough estimate on the total cost.

Update: They are giving a special pricing for a base 370z so if you are interested, I can give you his # and you can discuss it with him.

Dan is full of crap

He would always say "have a deal going for" whatever car you have and he'd talk a lot of BS and never go through with any of it. Some people got screwed over by the shop, so AK removed him from the forum.

Chris, who I believe used to partly own Boost Logic is now working at Uprev. If you go into uprev's shop you can see all the supras back there! :) I know hes built some pretty epic cars, so they definitely have the ability to do whatever build you want.

I saw this car at Uprev getting tuned and it looks like a promising FI alternative, except its grossly way too loud right now in my opinion. (In comparison to my car with longtube headers and FI exhaust.)

Jared mentioned the stock MAF sensors couldn't handle the airflow from the kit, and was telling STS the intake tubes would probably need to be revised to be larger so it wasn't pegging the sensor.

Loud.... I LIKE :rolleyes:

but okay Caravanman. Time to look elsewhere. Yea his e-mails make me "lol"
I mean it wouldn't be hard for them to give me a rough estimate on the labor/parts/tune, but he's being shady about it. :]



Looks like a pretty simple install. I have friends that can help me.
Now just to see if the Universal Kit would be a better buy..

Ah, did not know that.
This weekend is the Texas mile so I am sure they were working hard on the Supras to get them tuned and ready as I know they want to break 250mph this year.

id love to head out there. its in goliad right?

Yep, I will not be there but hope to go next year. I always forget to put it on my calendar and then it pops up and I already have plans.

TEXAS MILE // OFFICIAL SITE // 3 DAYS, 1 MILE: NO SPEED LIMIT

For those wondering what the Texas mile is.

Haha caravan. You were right, that guy is a tool.

u tried calling him, didn't you? haha

No I did not call him, but based on his e-mail responses. Lmao. GG.

Updates? =]

Hey i dunno if anyone is still interested but i have talked to Vernon from STS ( great customer service via email ) about getting the STS as well as Sean at CIN Motorsports ( also great customer service ) in Charlotte, NC about my install. As soon as i get back from Afghanistan ( round Jan ) i'll be getting the install and i'll update everyone on the status, as well as try to answer any questions if anyone is still interested that far from now.

you're in good hands with cin motorsports. I was one of the first testers in the country to get this kit through cin on the 350 and I was totally happy with my experience their.

Yea man i have heard nothing but good things about CIN. So how do you like the kit? I'm pretty excited about getting mine when i get back! I see ur in NC you know any good Z or even just performance car clubs? Haven't had much luck finding any. Come on January!! :happydance:

dont die thread lol!

nobody answer the questions.... no more pics... i call b.s.

The kit is working and a video has been found of it on the track: http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...70z-turbo.html
I think those who want to get this kit need to talk to the company who is building it and get them on the forum so more information can be shared and answer questions.

has anyone attempted to get anyone from the company on the forums?

Called them and they dont want to.

So basically they made a product for a specific car and do not want to share it with the community? :facepalm:

they said they want to just keep it on there website. When I talked to them At SEMA they were pretty excited about sales of the kit. The numbers look damn good. Its just a case of them selling the kit for 6300

The problem I see is, we have a couple videos, but no real information on the kit.
I would love to have them on the forum and answer question, especially if it helps clear the air on boost lag (if any), build design, why they went with X part, etc.