the guys with 350z's that i know with the kit say the biggest worry was the oil pump failures. something about lack of any indication if the pump stops/instant destruction.

If you have a fitting with a oil pressure guage before the turbo but after the pump you will know how its performing.... I wouldnt worry about that at all....

You wouldn't even need a gauge you would just need a idiot light. If the light is on stop... If the light is off the pump is working.

Road Race Engineering did an STS setup on a 4th Gen Eclipse GT, heres a link to the vid, this car smokes some cars you wouldnt expect it to....

There is a real good shot of the turbo setup a few seconds in.

YouTube - Turbo Eclipse - no music

Do you think the long oil line run would be beneficial to the oil temperature issue our car has?

That actually looked great! Great way to display how well the system can be integrated!

I think beside it being 'too' loud - if you can find that perfectly sized turbo to come off with a strong linear powerband, this is definitly a great solution.

Thats not where the pump goes... It is a SCAVENGE pump like 5 psi at most it is after the turbo and pumps the oil back up to the engine so the turbo can drain and receive oil flow to cool it. Idiot light is what they have done but it doesn't come with the kit so if nobody warned you about it you would just have to now that it is something extra you need to buy for the kit.

or just make a good pump to go with the kit that doesnt die quickly.

Yeah but if we are talking strictly STS kits as the thread states you don't get any of that and need to add it, all i'm sayin. YOu can build w/e the hell type of rear mount kit you wan't and you are on your own with that one. Personally i allways wanted to try putting them inside the hatch of the car under the rear glass with ventelation/thermal blankets/bitchin chrome heatshields, to get around the water issue. I have seen turbo's in the trunk already on a 5.0 drag mustang.

Ive seen the STS first hand on some of the newer mustangs and Im not impressed at all by the build quality. Some people swear by them though bc its a cheaper alternative.

You lost me there. Isn't reliability a reflection of build quality? It might not be a bunch of chrome piping or whatever you're speaking of (please enlighten me), but it gets the job done and it gets it done right. Like I said earlier, my friend has had his STS kit on his newer mustang for 1 & 1/2 years and hasn't had a single problem. None.

I owned the red sts 350 that alot of you guys have probably seen on youtube. It was a great power adder that was reliable for me for two years and 27,000 miles boosted at 8psi (350whp/wtq on an auto). The sound is not bad at all, and the lag is comprarable to other single turbos (should be less on a 370z with that extra displacement). Anyone in the charlotte area check out cin motorsports, they do great work and have worked closely with sts in the 350z kit development.

^^^ very interesting. Someone be the guinea pig and build an STS 370 already!

Did you have any trouble hitting the rev limiter during auto shifts under power? I've read about a lot of people haing this issue using F.I. with the 5AT due to slightly slower shift speeds.

I'm glad to see a post about this. I have looked at these guys forever and now I have the vehicle that I want to put it on. In Indiana I have found that there are not a ton of tuners nearby.

I live an hour north of Indianapolis and there is a guy there who I talked with that sells and installs STS Turbos. He wants me to come down so he can take a look at my car and run it on the dyno with all of the upgrades that I have added before we do anything. I don't believe anyone has posted this yet but it shows that there isn't much turbo lag. I hope its accurate, but looks good to me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdjh3EY6shU

Can't decide what the hell to do. As I said before there isn't a whole lot of tuning going on around these parts so it seems like it makes since to go with a kit that a guy works with. (He is also one of the dealers mentioned on the STS website.)---Its a tough call with all the other topics I am reading on the different turbos coming out and even the superchargers have me excited...damn!!

I'm in the same boat, only thing is I bought mine to drive on a daily basis and not a weekend car so I'm just a little worried that this will put it over the top.

I'd love to have the turbo system but 15K or so installed is just more then I can handle... The STS system is MUCH cheaper.

Just do it...be the guinea pig for all of us!!!

Lets go up there together! I'm down for a remote turbo kit! My cars not a dd so Im not scared about water or anything. I'm in noblesville, where you at?

When I spoke to the guys at STS they told me the universal kit was available for the 370z. I let them know I would only be interested in a kit made specifically for the 370. I would suggest you guys wait until they make one for us.

I am with you on the whole "put it over the top" idea. After watching "Two Guys and a Garage" the horsepower difference was crazy with just one turbo and no tuning.... I was thinking about twins but I don't know if I'm quite ready for building the engine up to take it... I am just thinking 450 rwhp... I wish someone would hurry up and drop a supercharger that isn't freakin silent so I can compare some pricing and some dynos... (I'm pretty sure we've all seen the price tag on the twin turbos...for that kind of money I want something that is 100% reliable, no problems.)


Hell ya man, I'm in Muncie.... Mine is a DD except for rain and snow lol, unless its for some reason dirty, then I drive it in the rain. Pretty nice to feel like I'm not burning up my tires as bad as dry pave when those turns get a little slippery and my foot gets a little heavy. I definitely want to go down there and see what this guy has to say and see if he is knowledgeable with the STS stuff.

I know I'm writing little novels here but 1 question: If I get the rear mounted turbo then get the itch to drive it in the rain, would it be damn near impossible for me not to get the turbo wet? lol this one might be dumb, sorry (I was just thinking I could avoid puddles really well, because I already do)

Yes. Although I can't tell you how much the oil temperature will decrease, it certainly helps.

TurboByGarrett.com - Catalog

I'm looking at putting something togather. Starting to look at turbos now.. what do you think of a single GT37 fast spool and should get to 500whp (I think) was looking at the GT40 but i think that will spool to late. I want to hit full boost by 3500rpm

Have you mapped out a plumbing scheme? Routing the inlet plumbing from the turbo to the TBs looks difficult...splitting them off into two, etc.

I was thinking about a vertical flow intercooler with 2 inlets at the top going into 1 on the bottom. Using the routing that the stillen Gen3 intakes use to get infront of the radiator.
Kinda like this pic. but turn it upside down and add another outlet for the 2nd TB.

Well I am following your posts from now on Brazil cause' I'm up in Muncie and would love to hear some updates from you if you go through with all of this... I love how your talkin' full boost at 3500..... I'm still somewhat new to the whole turbo world...Do you have any ideas on how much whp you'd be shooting for?

If I went this route or a similar direction (ie..Turbo), would my Stillen headers be useless?

-Might be a dumb question.. my bad if so.

I'm looking for a cheapest way to get 500whp with F.I.

And I'm an hour north of you!!! So my thoughts on this are... I like to be unique therefore getting the same exact turbo as someone else nearby and knowing it would usually tear me up lol, but on the other hand... If one has issues at least there is someone nearby who could possibly relate/troubleshoot/have a fix already...

Don't know what our thinking about all this, but I would definitely like to stay updated on this one... I think I am pretty much down to an idea like this or supercharger...


Edit: LOL, the whole reason I quoted you was because I agree 100% with your comment. I really want some reliability though. I don't want a car that's always in the damn shop.

One reason I like this remote turbo idea also is because of ease to work on.. if there is a problem with a turbo or one of the lines or I/C pipes/clamps. They are all with reach. Everthing can be done with a floor jack. I would hate to blow a turbo and have to pay someone to pull the engine just to change turbos. I also like the idea of being able to switch to n/a again within a few hrs if need be.
If this dont pan out I'll probably go S/C.. Im just not a huge fan of'em

Everything that you just said pretty much wraps up all of my thoughts on this!..

On the STS, they route the oil back up to the front...I've read things about installing a light to go off if oil flow back to the front stops... Do you plan on doing anything like this?

interested :tup: waiting for guinea pig

Stillen headers are a +1 for turbo in the back. Especially stainles and heat wrapped to keep the temps up to the turbo and keep the heat away from the intake tube running to the front of the car. I've seen mid mounts where the turbo is near the transmission and they spool just like a regular TT setup my wan't to think about that. OEM's are starting to run midmounts on newer deisel vehicles now too. GT37 is a nice choice just make sure you map it out and if you're looking for quick spool get the lowest A/R you can. Mid mount would help with turbo drainage too. Then just run 3.5" or 4" all the way back and have it exit out the butthole.

Brazil, any reason you aren't doing twins? Is it a matter of cost?

Thanks for the info on the Stillen headers... I was afraid that a supercharger would be more beneficial. I guess either way I can just try to sell whatever after market parts I dont use.

And BRAZIL... I'm with you all the way buddy, but really want you to answer the guys question on why you chose single instead of twin. I know I have said it a thousand times now but on 2 guys and a garage sts turbo (youtube), they only use one turbo and get some serious hp out of it. Can you tell me your thoughts on single vs twin????

its possible that 2 smaller twins will spool faster.... maybe 2 gt25's .... I think they are good for about 300 or 400 hp each... the single may be spooled up at 3k but the 2 smaller turboes may be spooled at 2700 or so.... thats the theory.

I've thought about twins but I think it would just add more complexity then I would like, more tubing/oil line ect.

Ya I didn't really think about that... but its a good point... there's definitely enough power with a single turbo and if you can get it to spool up at 3500 I would take that for sure. As fast as this car can red line in first gear it doesn't really matter but after that its cake to never go below 3500.


So any guinea pigs yet?

Brazil, I am assuming that your hard at work in your garage right? ready to update? lol I'm very impatient when it comes to this kind of stuff

It's too bad that they can't do internal lubrication like some of the superchargers have gone to. That would make this kit a breeze. I think turbos just get too hot for that.

Ya, I am with you. I have never done an install but it seems like the routing on the oil lines and **** is a pain in the ***... For the billionth time since I became a member I am going to reference the two guys and a garage sts turbo on youtube. (lol, I may have already done this once in this post, but for those of you who missed it lol.. you should watch) They make it seem so easy, but I'm still kind of worried about the oil flow deal, and what happens if it stops etc Seems like if you know what your doing the fix is simple but I don't know... I saw the link Brazil posted today at work but I didn't have time to get into it. Gonna do that now.

The STS oil kit is very simple. The lines goes through your oil cap. You don't need to tap the oil pan. You pump the oil from the turbo, to the engine with a scavenger pump. Their scavenger pump comes with pressure sensors that let off a light and sound when there's a drop in pressure. Shut off the car and figure out what's wrong at that point.