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Old 10-01-2015, 06:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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He only made good with vendors. A lot of them were also waiting over a year. Sure make good with the vendors why? Cause they have loyal customers to help Gamma grow. Priority. Screw everyone else and the GB people. I would like to know if GB people got their kits or refunds?
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He only made good with vendors. A lot of them were also waiting over a year. Sure make good with the vendors why? Cause they have loyal customers to help Gamma grow. Priority. Screw everyone else and the GB people. I would like to know if GB people got their kits or refunds?
Sam has been trying to make good with us. He sent us the missing parts to the SC kit I've sat on for over a year, he's giving us incentives to sell more TT kits that I am now not allowed to even post as sales thread on here.

If everyone here really took the time to read Bullit's explanation you would realize a couple things. Going after Sam in Bankruptcy court is your only option. Taking matters into your own hands and trying to physically harm someone after announcing it on a public forum..?.. c'mon you're silly and obviously talking from something you sit on. Taking matters into your own hands and try to publicly post his personal information all over the internet so he can be harassed..?.. again, silly, what gain will you get from that? Blaming the investors for bad business created by GTM..?.. Do you think they looked at GTM and ripped their shirts open and said "have no fear, we will save the day" and decided to invest. Or would you think that they look at the product and agree that it's a quality product that there is a demand for which makes it a good investment?

The part about Sam being listed as the owner makes plenty of sense if you take the time to comprehend what Bullit is trying to educate you on.

Oh and vendors act as the advocate for the customer, not the manufacturer. Any time my customers have a problem with a product I answer their calls, I reply to their e-mails and I facilitate the remedy to the situation. So for Sam to choose to make things right with a vendor first while he is tied up in litigation with a bunch of people is the only way Gammas products will leave their shop.

I am in the business of making money and I get that done by selling parts. When a vendor is hindering me from doing so by lying, cheating or stealing, they go away very quickly. When I am filled with false promises, ignored and every transaction becomes a painful mess, they go away quickly. I have vendors I simply wont subject my customers to, if you ask me for it I will tell exactly why I wont sell it to you. We work under the premise that everything is our fault when something goes wrong, that the middle man becomes the manufacturer when something goes wrong and on occasion I have been personally attacked or blamed. I love what I do though and I need all of you to help me put food on my plate.

Gamma has a huge hill to climb and those standing in the way with their problems with GTM have a right to demand answers and get things resolved but it has to be done through the proper channels. It can't be fueled by hate and threats and emotions.

That's just my two cents. I mean no offense because I have lived a life where I have been in situations like this but what really gets under my skin is the people who come on here to just join in on the negative. Stop putting fuel on the fire. Nothing gets accomplished under a hot head, cooler minds will prevail. Work together, get in on the lawsuit and build your case to get your justice.

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Sam has been trying to make good with us. He sent us the missing parts to the SC kit I've sat on for over a year, he's giving us incentives to sell more TT kits that I am now not allowed to even post as sales thread on here.

If everyone here really took the time to read Bullit's explanation you would realize a couple things. Going after Sam in Bankruptcy court is your only option. Taking matters into your own hands and trying to physically harm someone after announcing it on a public forum..?.. c'mon you're silly and obviously talking from something you sit on. Taking matters into your own hands and try to publicly post his personal information all over the internet so he can be harassed..?.. again, silly, what gain will you get from that? Blaming the investors for bad business created by GTM..?.. Do you think they looked at GTM and ripped their shirts open and said "have no fear, we will save the day" and decided to invest. Or would you think that they look at the product and agree that it's a quality product that there is a demand for which makes it a good investment?

The part about Sam being listed as the owner makes plenty of sense if you take the time to comprehend what Bullit is trying to educate you on.

Oh and vendors act as the advocate for the customer, not the manufacturer. Any time my customers have a problem with a product I answer their calls, I reply to their e-mails and I facilitate the remedy to the situation. So for Sam to choose to make things right with a vendor first while he is tied up in litigation with a bunch of people is the only way Gammas products will leave their shop.

I am in the business of making money and I get that done by selling parts. When a vendor is hindering me from doing so by lying, cheating or stealing, they go away very quickly. When I am filled with false promises, ignored and every transaction becomes a painful mess, they go away quickly. I have vendors I simply wont subject my customers to, if you ask me for it I will tell exactly why I wont sell it to you. We work under the premise that everything is our fault when something goes wrong, that the middle man becomes the manufacturer when something goes wrong and on occasion I have been personally attacked or blamed. I love what I do though and I need all of you to help me put food on my plate.

Gamma has a huge hill to climb and those standing in the way with their problems with GTM have a right to demand answers and get things resolved but it has to be done through the proper channels. It can't be fueled by hate and threats and emotions.

That's just my two cents. I mean no offense because I have lived a life where I have been in situations like this but what really gets under my skin is the people who come on here to just join in on the negative. Stop putting fuel on the fire. Nothing gets accomplished under a hot head, cooler minds will prevail. Work together, get in on the lawsuit and build your case to get your justice.

Todd
I just want my kit that I ordered and payed in full in November of 2014 with no idea a bankruptcy was happening,I want my kit so I can continue to buy parts from vendors such as vivid and others to build AN AMAZING 370Z
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I just want my kit that I ordered and payed in full in November of 2014 with no idea a bankruptcy was happening,I want my kit so I can continue to buy parts from vendors such as vivid and others to build AN AMAZING 370Z
Amen brother! I really do sympathize with you. Heck I would love for them to refund your money and everyone else's so I can get rid of the G37 kit I have. I just don't know how much you can bleed a rock!
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Amen brother! I really do sympathize with you. Heck I would love for them to refund your money and everyone else's so I can get rid of the G37 kit I have. I just don't know how much you can bleed a rock!
I just want the product I payed for,iam not trying to bleed a rock,I don't see it like that,I wana buy stuff from all vendors and me and the others from our car club make our z's n g's stand out from the rest,its a real shame tho cuz what's happening to me his holding back from alot of business from where iam from that could help put food on everyone's table,right now the foods off my family's table due to certain people,and I will NOT be slowed down,unless u have a deal on vented rotors lol
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Amen brother! I really do sympathize with you. Heck I would love for them to refund your money and everyone else's so I can get rid of the G37 kit I have. I just don't know how much you can bleed a rock!
NO ONE said to go and get physical...i was sharing a personal story about a friend. Like a "you just cant go around screwing people" kind of thing

And as far as a little internet motivation, to light a fire under thier ***? I dont see what the big deal is, Im not on ANY VENDOR'S SIDE, ever..., My loyalty will ALWAYS BE TO MY Z BRETHREN. And if getting the word out of someones shady dealings to save another victim is silly, then i guess im silly as ****
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Amen brother! I really do sympathize with you. Heck I would love for them to refund your money and everyone else's so I can get rid of the G37 kit I have. I just don't know how much you can bleed a rock!
Hmm...I wonder why your buyer backed out. Be honest.

I left a question in your ad regarding the "standard warranty" offered on the kit. Who will honor the warranty now that GTM is completely dissolved?
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Hmm...I wonder why your buyer backed out. Be honest.

I left a question in your ad regarding the "standard warranty" offered on the kit. Who will honor the warranty now that GTM is completely dissolved?
The buyer backed out because he was trying to retrofit a G37 kit to a 350Z and didn't want to spend the added money to modify.

The parts that came over to complete the kit came over long after GTM dissolved and Gamma hadn't officially opened for business. So Sam took care of us on what he owed in good faith and is continuing to make an effort to pay back the rest.

There is no alliance here, there is no loyalty to GTM or Sam. I am simply here to sell parts, which feeds my family and a complete stage 1 kit is what I have. As I said before I am and advocate for my customers, not the manufacturer. If I wasn't, I wouldn't have much business or any food to put on the table. So if the buyer has a problem, he deals with me and I deal with Gamma. Plain and simple.
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The buyer backed out because he was trying to retrofit a G37 kit to a 350Z and didn't want to spend the added money to modify.

The parts that came over to complete the kit came over long after GTM dissolved and Gamma hadn't officially opened for business. So Sam took care of us on what he owed in good faith and is continuing to make an effort to pay back the rest.

There is no alliance here, there is no loyalty to GTM or Sam. I am simply here to sell parts, which feeds my family and a complete stage 1 kit is what I have. As I said before I am and advocate for my customers, not the manufacturer. If I wasn't, I wouldn't have much business or any food to put on the table. So if the buyer has a problem, he deals with me and I deal with Gamma. Plain and simple.
You didn't answer my question. Who is backing the so called "standard warranty" that comes with the kit you're selling?! It's an honest question because I'm curious and I think potential buyers would be as well!
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The buyer backed out because he was trying to retrofit a G37 kit to a 350Z and didn't want to spend the added money to modify.

The parts that came over to complete the kit came over long after GTM dissolved and Gamma hadn't officially opened for business. So Sam took care of us on what he owed in good faith and is continuing to make an effort to pay back the rest.

There is no alliance here, there is no loyalty to GTM or Sam. I am simply here to sell parts, which feeds my family and a complete stage 1 kit is what I have. As I said before I am and advocate for my customers, not the manufacturer. If I wasn't, I wouldn't have much business or any food to put on the table. So if the buyer has a problem, he deals with me and I deal with Gamma. Plain and simple.
I purchased my GTM Stage 1 kit from Vivid Racing in December 2014. . They had 2 kits at the time but only one complete kit, waiting on the SC if I'm not mistaken on the 2nd kit for a G37. My kit came complete ( 370z)with no missing parts. I have a roadster , so not everything line up perfectly, but Todd was very helpful with my questions and concerns. I have since purchased more items from Vivid Racing and will continue to due so. Good company!
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I just want my kit that I ordered and payed in full in November of 2014 with no idea a bankruptcy was happening,I want my kit so I can continue to buy parts from vendors such as vivid and others to build AN AMAZING 370Z
We all definitely understand that and I would too bro but whom did you pay? GTM or Gamma?
You bought the kit from GTM so GTM is who you need to get your kit or money from... Not Gamma... So get in line with the bankruptcy suit.
My parents have a 6000sq ft house that my dad designed himself and the shingles they bought had a 30year warranty... They are crumpled up and practically destroyed after 13-15yrs, not even barely half the warrantied life! So they go to call the company and low and behold noone answers, and with a Google search guess what, companies gone under and they put their lawyer on the case and he pretty much said its a get in line bankruptcy case, if you ever get the money from it it'll be 20years from now!
These sorts of shitty things happen all over the world we just hope we aren't the unlucky ones but sometimes you are.

So I'd say Gamma who has no legal responsibility of setting GTMs issues right are doing a major favor by offering the rest of OPs parts for a deal and you should try to work out some sort of deal yourself with them.


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I am in the business of making money and I get that done by selling parts. When a vendor is hindering me from doing so by lying, cheating or stealing, they go away very quickly. When I am filled with false promises, ignored and every transaction becomes a painful mess, they go away quickly. I have vendors I simply wont subject my customers to, if you ask me for it I will tell exactly why I wont sell it to you.
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So why are you still doing business with them?
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So why are you still doing business with them?
Because, as I mentioned several times he has made good on what he owes us by replenishing the missing parts to the kit I have. Also by offering future kits at an added discount (that will be passed on to the buyer) to pay off the monetary debt that he owes since his funds are obviously depleted.
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