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BOLIO 671 10-14-2016 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3565807)
RRTC is traction control I think, but I didn't know ecutek has the ability to add the brake and throttle feature for burnouts!!? Was that just a tuning thing or something you had to purchase equipment wise as well? I believe Hojin actually purchased something for that.

No...nothing additional....It can be programmed into your Map. It's referred to as a Throttle Hijack. This is how the guys at Fast Intentions are able to do a stand burnout at the 1/4 mile prior to staging.

Here's a short vid of the Throttle Hijack enabled via EcuTek. I had this done after my run with the GTR. Big thanks to Seb at Specialty Z. I shot him an email after my runs the night I raced the GTR regarding my issues of properly doing a stand burnout in order to warm up my drag radials. As you can see during my GTR burnout I could not do a standing burnout due to the ECU killing the throttle once it sensed the brake pedal. I also tried pulling the brake fuse like others had suggested but that didn't get me anywhere either as I ended up with the same issue of power to the motor being cut everytime I applied the brake. Seb responded back with the Throttle Hijack option as a solution. Here's a vid of it enabled into one of my maps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvvRwtmww8c

GeauxTigers1 10-24-2016 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671 (Post 3566164)
No...nothing additional....It can be programmed into your Map. It's referred to as a Throttle Hijack. This is how the guys at Fast Intentions are able to do a stand burnout at the 1/4 mile prior to staging.

Here's a short vid of the Throttle Hijack enabled via EcuTek. I had this done after my run with the GTR. Big thanks to Seb at Specialty Z. I shot him an email after my runs the night I raced the GTR regarding my issues of properly doing a stand burnout in order to warm up my drag radials. As you can see during my GTR burnout I could not do a standing burnout due to the ECU killing the throttle once it sensed the brake pedal. I also tried pulling the brake fuse like others had suggested but that didn't get me anywhere either as I ended up with the same issue of power to the motor being cut everytime I applied the brake. Seb responded back with the Throttle Hijack option as a solution. Here's a vid of it enabled into one of my maps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvvRwtmww8c

VERY nice dude! So this is essentially another option other than the line lock. Did you have to add any sort of mod or just an update from Ecutek?

BOLIO 671 10-25-2016 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3569453)
VERY nice dude! So this is essentially another option other than the line lock. Did you have to add any sort of mod or just an update from Ecutek?

Just an update. All u need to do is get with ur tuner and have them enable the throttle Hijack into ur maps

GeauxTigers1 11-28-2016 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671 (Post 3569989)
Just an update. All u need to do is get with ur tuner and have them enable the throttle Hijack into ur maps

aaaand here comes the call to my tuner! LOL Ty sir! repped!

GeauxTigers1 11-28-2016 10:35 PM

Can't believe I forgot to post this! Had an absolutely blast at NoFlyZone on the 1/2 mile airstrip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thJYO714eX4

^why does the forum not create the thumbnail anymore :(

jax4557 11-30-2016 01:24 AM

I figured I would share some videos until I get her back on the road. All video filmed in Mexico and no racing involved.

BP Kit with precision 6766 1.15AR
1150cc injectors
cjm-s1-e fuel return kit
E85 flex fuel sensor
Ecutek
13 PSI on E85
hp/tq unknown as I didn't hit dyno ( Any guesses? )





30 to 140 mph pull while logging for tuner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa7xOTwxlNs



Seeing how my new RE11's worked with TC completely disabled...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwuA6RpZlMY



Testing ecutek launch control and traction control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAyaED47xBg



A quick pull after installation with only 8psi wastegate pressure and open dumps before installing recirculation tubes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT5SvJIarb8



Just playing around to catch spool and open dump noise. I miss it and may put dumps back on..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX2TYKGrCsY

solidus 11-30-2016 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jax4557 (Post 3584014)
I figured I would share some videos until I get her back on the road. All video filmed in Mexico and no racing involved.

BP Kit with precision 6766 1.15AR
1150cc injectors
cjm-s1-e fuel return kit
E85 flex fuel sensor
Ecutek
13 PSI on E85
hp/tq unknown as I didn't hit dyno ( Any guesses? )





30 to 140 mph pull while logging for tuner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa7xOTwxlNs



Seeing how my new RE11's worked with TC completely disabled...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwuA6RpZlMY



Testing ecutek launch control and traction control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAyaED47xBg



A quick pull after installation with only 8psi wastegate pressure and open dumps before installing recirculation tubes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT5SvJIarb8



Just playing around to catch spool and open dump noise. I miss it and may put dumps back on..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX2TYKGrCsY

Those are some nice gauges you got there.:shakes head:

xnick101 11-30-2016 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jax4557 (Post 3584014)
I figured I would share some videos until I get her back on the road. All video filmed in Mexico and no racing involved.

BP Kit with precision 6766 1.15AR
1150cc injectors
cjm-s1-e fuel return kit
E85 flex fuel sensor
Ecutek
13 PSI on E85
hp/tq unknown as I didn't hit dyno ( Any guesses? )



who tuned the car?

jax4557 11-30-2016 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3584087)
Those are some nice gauges you got there.:shakes head:

You know what, I actually got a hell of a deal on them and man do they look sweet. The sucker who sold them is probably regretting it so bad... :rofl2:

+1 for second guessing

jax4557 11-30-2016 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xnick101 (Post 3584434)
who tuned the car?

Seb with specialty Z did the remote tune on it. I have flex fuel, speed density, AFR and overboost protection, launch control, throttle hijack, and the list goes on. I recommend him hands down.

squid267 12-01-2016 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jax4557 (Post 3584451)
Seb with specialty Z did the remote tune on it. I have flex fuel, speed density, AFR and overboost protection, launch control, throttle hijack, and the list goes on. I recommend him hands down.

what kit you got!?

sounds sick man

edit: missed where you said you have bp kit

jax4557 12-01-2016 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by squid267 (Post 3584701)
what kit you got!?

sounds sick man

edit: missed where you said you have bp kit

Yeah its the BP kit with a precision 6766 and I have the recirculation pipes and also dumps for when I want to go dirtnastyloud....


https://s13.postimg.org/8ehxdpthj/20160604_191617.jpg


https://s15.postimg.org/de2bqnna3/20160609_161216.jpg


https://s3.postimg.org/pt4xi8bur/0725161508a_HDR.jpg

blueranger 12-08-2016 09:09 PM

10 second club pass (10.92et 133mph)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AtMDGsCing

Thanks for your AZ hospitality Ryan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AtMDGsCing

1cleanZ 12-09-2016 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blueranger (Post 3587844)

10.9? Hella nice pass! Just shitty being lined up against that vette, ish!

blueranger 12-09-2016 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1cleanZ (Post 3588041)
10.9? Hella nice pass! Just shitty being lined up against that vette, ish!



Yeah that ZR1 was a Beast... Check out our times (his 60ft is a dream for me).

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jwick 12-09-2016 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blueranger (Post 3588049)
Yeah that ZR1 was a Beast... Check out our times (his 60ft is a dream for me).

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...3d570271db.jpg


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We'll never compete with GMs in the 60' the suspension just aren't set up for it.

YzGyz 12-10-2016 02:38 PM

Damn good launch blue! I want to be like that one day but I'll settle on mid 11's.

YzGyz

GeauxTigers1 02-16-2021 03:35 AM

Back from the dead bc I FINALLY am done (for now) building her. Well, also took some time to not feel like I'm killing myself. Here's the first in years, can't wait for next 1/2 mile races!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX4b5lbKyC4

Spooler 02-16-2021 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3985872)
Back from the dead bc I FINALLY am done (for now) building her. Well, also took some time to not feel like I'm killing myself. Here's the first in years, can't wait for next 1/2 mile races!


LOL, I know exactly what your are talking about.

Elmo370z 02-16-2021 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3985872)
Back from the dead bc I FINALLY am done (for now) building her. Well, also took some time to not feel like I'm killing myself. Here's the first in years, can't wait for next 1/2 mile races!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX4b5lbKyC4

It rips.

Elmo370z 02-16-2021 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3985872)
Back from the dead bc I FINALLY am done (for now) building her. Well, also took some time to not feel like I'm killing myself. Here's the first in years, can't wait for next 1/2 mile races!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX4b5lbKyC4

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3588051)
We'll never compete with GMs in the 60' the suspension just aren't set up for it.

Too bad it took 10+ years to finally figure out the oem suspenion was good enough to cut a damn near 1.3 60’

Mr.Squeeze 02-17-2021 10:47 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUTuYPAxGrM


This video is from 2012 my old GTM twin turbo setup I was outmatched

solidus 02-18-2021 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3985872)
Back from the dead bc I FINALLY am done (for now) building her. Well, also took some time to not feel like I'm killing myself. Here's the first in years, can't wait for next 1/2 mile races!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX4b5lbKyC4

Your wheels come in yet?

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Elmo370z 02-18-2021 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 3986070)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUTuYPAxGrM


This video is from 2012 my old GTM twin turbo setup I was outmatched

Hard to beat race grade TC. Tech has improved so much in the last few years, it just everyone has left the platform to better things. We now have huge improvements with Ecu tek, motec M1 but no one wants to spend the money on developing the software and now emtron is on board to make a full plug n play stand-alone. Cjm and specialty Z now have the Dct which will be huge and a company pmc I believe is make a awd Dct 370. If there just this crowd need to nut up. I believe myself and a few others don’t have to worry about headlift anymore, questions now is where is the limit of the cast block.

Spooler 02-18-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3986111)
Hard to beat race grade TC. Tech has improved so much in the last few years, it just everyone has left the platform to better things. We now have huge improvements with Ecu tek, motec M1 but no one wants to spend the money on developing the software and now emtron is on board to make a full plug n play stand-alone. Cjm and specialty Z now have the Dct which will be huge and a company pmc I believe is make a awd Dct 370. If there just this crowd need to nut up. I believe myself and a few others don’t have to worry about headlift anymore, questions now is where is the limit of the cast block.

It will be the crank if the block holds together. 1200whp is going to be the limit for the rod bearings also. We will start to see rod bearing wear somewhere around there also. That will mean anything higher will need aluminum rods and will require more maintenance.

EndlessZ 02-18-2021 02:34 PM

https://youtu.be/IycDrrtoQ9k

Runs with some V8 s/c. I'm sitting around 520whp, have to do little break boosting to keep up.

SeeThruHead 02-18-2021 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3986111)
Hard to beat race grade TC. Tech has improved so much in the last few years, it just everyone has left the platform to better things. We now have huge improvements with Ecu tek, motec M1 but no one wants to spend the money on developing the software and now emtron is on board to make a full plug n play stand-alone. Cjm and specialty Z now have the Dct which will be huge and a company pmc I believe is make a awd Dct 370. If there just this crowd need to nut up. I believe myself and a few others don’t have to worry about headlift anymore, questions now is where is the limit of the cast block.

I think i've seen you mention stuff about software before but.
Assuming a harness adaptor for a Haltech or Motec what software still needs to be developed?

When I contact haltech they said that VVEL is full supported and their ECU's are perfectly able to control a 370z with custom harness.

Spooler 02-18-2021 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 3986129)
I think i've seen you mention stuff about software before but.
Assuming a harness adaptor for a Haltech or Motec what software still needs to be developed?

When I contact haltech they said that VVEL is full supported and their ECU's are perfectly able to control a 370z with custom harness.

But will it run all the can bus stuff? Will all the gauges and cruise control work? Probably not.

Elmo370z 02-18-2021 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3986121)
It will be the crank if the block holds together. 1200whp is going to be the limit for the rod bearings also. We will start to see rod bearing wear somewhere around there also. That will mean anything higher will need aluminum rods and will require more maintenance.

That’s all hearsay. Mark based that off the De platform.

Hotrodz 02-18-2021 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 3986129)
I think i've seen you mention stuff about software before but.

Assuming a harness adaptor for a Haltech or Motec what software still needs to be developed?



When I contact haltech they said that VVEL is full supported and their ECU's are perfectly able to control a 370z with custom harness.

It is not a plug and play system like Motec. You don't need another dash display and you lose functionality of the OEM dash. I thought Haltec was looking at doing a plug and play for the Z. Their dash display does plug and play with the Z.

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Elmo370z 02-18-2021 04:39 PM

You have a lot to learn. No one make a plug n play besides motec, vitviper developed the kit. Just as spooler states above.

SeeThruHead 02-18-2021 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3986130)
But will it run all the can bus stuff? Will all the gauges and cruise control work? Probably not.

yeah basically replacing or rewiring all the OEM controls and displays (gauges) is a given unless you want to repeat what vitviper did and reverse engineer the entire car CAN bus. which is definitely possible, you can program motec to accept any can spec you want IIRC. High performance academy has a course on can bus that includes reverse engineering if you want to stop waiting for someone else to do it for you guys :D:D:D It's on my list to take.

Aside from that:

You can do cruise control via can keypad (aftermarket ecu controlled). you could also rewire the steering wheel controls to a can transmitter (similar to whats used in can keypads)

I was thinking about the possibility of taking https://www.demon-tweeks.com/no/summ...system-663360/

and wiring the outputs to the the same can transmitter to talk to ECU.

the Motec c1212 is a really nice looking dash I would probably use to replace the OEM one. because reverse engineering all the CAN for the oem system is honestly too much work.

other things related. a bosch motorsport ABS unit is definitely the way to go, it will output CAN codes you can read in the ECU to do traction control (wheel speed)
also you can disable it via CAN keypad if you want an ABS button.

you can see a lot of that coming together via motec here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CT6muKlipU

definitely way easier to rewire the whole car tho than to integrate with oem can. but i've never reverse engineered a CAN before so I don't actually know how long it will take.

Quote:

It is not a plug and play system like Motec. You don't need another dash display and you lose functionality of the OEM dash. I thought Haltec was looking at doing a plug and play for the Z. Their dash display does plug and play with the Z.
It would be great if they would do it but I don't there is enough demand to justify the cost. If I do end up taking mine out in favour of the c1212 I guess I could probably give it a try but at that point there's not much incentive for me to do it, seeing as I'd have replaced my dash already /shrug

Quote:

You have a lot to learn. No one make a plug n play besides motec, vitviper developed the kit. Just as spooler states above.
lol

this is also pretty interesting if anyone has any C++ knowledge. Though I'm sure there are can bus interfaces for most languages. I know there is a nodejs one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soJpG-RFNiM

Another EDIT:

VVEL control kb article is here for anyone interested

https://support.haltech.com/portal/e...lve-lift-elite

when i got my email back from haltech they said

Quote:

We support the 370Z CAN protocol and that has the VVEL control built into it.
I'm not sure if they meant they support the whole CAN protocol or just VVEL, so I've shot them an email to clarify.

Elmo370z 02-18-2021 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 3986142)
yeah basically replacing or rewiring all the OEM controls and displays (gauges) is a given unless you want to repeat what vitviper did and reverse engineer the entire car CAN bus. which is definitely possible, you can program motec to accept any can spec you want IIRC. High performance academy has a course on can bus that includes reverse engineering if you want to stop waiting for someone else to do it for you guys :D:D:D It's on my list to take.

Aside from that:

You can do cruise control via can keypad (aftermarket ecu controlled). you could also rewire the steering wheel controls to a can transmitter (similar to whats used in can keypads)

I was thinking about the possibility of taking https://www.demon-tweeks.com/no/summ...system-663360/

and wiring the outputs to the the same can transmitter to talk to ECU.

the Motec c1212 is a really nice looking dash I would probably use to replace the OEM one. because reverse engineering all the CAN for the oem system is honestly too much work.

other things related. a bosch motorsport ABS unit is definitely the way to go, it will output CAN codes you can read in the ECU to do traction control (wheel speed)
also you can disable it via CAN keypad if you want an ABS button.

you can see a lot of that coming together via motec here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CT6muKlipU

definitely way easier to rewire the whole car tho than to integrate with oem can. but i've never reverse engineered a CAN before so I don't actually know how long it will take.



lol

Let’s us know how that goes.

EndlessZ 02-18-2021 05:27 PM

The stock ecu is pretty good for what most people will ever use it for.

SeeThruHead 02-18-2021 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndlessZ (Post 3986148)
The stock ecu is pretty good for what most people will ever use it for.

yes that is very true. Though we have a couple people here that are intent on being on the "cutting edge" of what's possible with the VQ platform. and IMHO, a custom harness and ecu is what that looks like.

Elmo370z 02-18-2021 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 3986142)
yeah basically replacing or rewiring all the OEM controls and displays (gauges) is a given unless you want to repeat what vitviper did and reverse engineer the entire car CAN bus. which is definitely possible, you can program motec to accept any can spec you want IIRC. High performance academy has a course on can bus that includes reverse engineering if you want to stop waiting for someone else to do it for you guys :D:D:D It's on my list to take.

Aside from that:

You can do cruise control via can keypad (aftermarket ecu controlled). you could also rewire the steering wheel controls to a can transmitter (similar to whats used in can keypads)

I was thinking about the possibility of taking https://www.demon-tweeks.com/no/summ...system-663360/

and wiring the outputs to the the same can transmitter to talk to ECU.

the Motec c1212 is a really nice looking dash I would probably use to replace the OEM one. because reverse engineering all the CAN for the oem system is honestly too much work.

other things related. a bosch motorsport ABS unit is definitely the way to go, it will output CAN codes you can read in the ECU to do traction control (wheel speed)
also you can disable it via CAN keypad if you want an ABS button.

you can see a lot of that coming together via motec here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CT6muKlipU

definitely way easier to rewire the whole car tho than to integrate with oem can. but i've never reverse engineered a CAN before so I don't actually know how long it will take.



It would be great if they would do it but I don't there is enough demand to justify the cost. If I do end up taking mine out in favour of the c1212 I guess I could probably give it a try but at that point there's not much incentive for me to do it, seeing as I'd have replaced my dash already /shrug



lol

this is also pretty interesting if anyone has any C++ knowledge. Though I'm sure there are can bus interfaces for most languages. I know there is a nodejs one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soJpG-RFNiM

Another EDIT:

VVEL control kb article is here for anyone interested

https://support.haltech.com/portal/e...lve-lift-elite

when i got my email back from haltech they said



I'm not sure if they meant they support the whole CAN protocol or just VVEL, so I've shot them an email to clarify.

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/t...7ac3eb7c9e.jpg
Save you the trouble on waiting for the email.

Just like you and 98% of the community are content with the stock Ecu. Reason why the VHR and the tuning is so far behind. At the end of the day if you’re just into street driving and mall crawling then yes motorsport grade electronics aren’t for you. For the few us who either want big power with reliability, and traction or who actually want to compete in races or time trails with very little street use, we want change. I’ll spend the money on it.

Hotrodz 02-18-2021 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 3986149)
yes that is very true. Though we have a couple people here that are intent on being on the "cutting edge" of what's possible with the VQ platform. and IMHO, a custom harness and ecu is what that looks like.

LMAO, there is nothing cutting edge about Motec or a Mil-Spec harness. There are a number of people that run Motec and other stand alone ECUs. If you want talk about use the best technology or tool for achieving the extreme goals that some of us have then that is a different story. The journey we are on is getting what is already available for most platforms but may not be available for the Z or the cost to convert or use is extravagant. We are playing catch up with the Z, nothing more.

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SeeThruHead 02-18-2021 05:59 PM

ok thanks for confirming what I said above guys!

Looks like it's perfectly doable even with oem gauges/sensors. Y'all just want someone to do the wiring work for you so it's easy to plug and play. Good luck!

Hotrodz 02-18-2021 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 3986156)
ok thanks for confirming what I said above guys!

Looks like it's perfectly doable even with oem gauges/sensors. Y'all just want someone to do the wiring work for you so it's easy to plug and play. Good luck!

For someone that is just getting into the game with the Z platform your ignorance and smugness will get you nothing. Why shouldn't we want the same as for other platforms and I take it that know just how easy it is to do a Mil-Spec harness. GTFO!

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Spooler 02-18-2021 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3986132)
That’s all hearsay. Mark based that off the De platform.

Yes it is unknown but a dang good guess. GTR's have to go to aluminum rods at 1300whp due to rod bearing wear. We will be in the same range. Just like GTR guys break lots of cranks too. Everything I have read has pointed me to the direction I have stated. My statements were not based off of the DE. It is due to all the research I have done over the last couple of years.


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