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bullitt5897 03-23-2015 09:52 AM

So i took my dad for a ride on saturday since the weather was nice. It was his first time seeing the car since I shipped it out. His impression on the car was:

"This is a freaking rocket ship... no its a star ship! Once you hit the gas I was pinned to the seat and couldn't even move! It just ungodly fast! even my race bikes wouldn't stand a chance against this! I felt like i was seeing stars and thought the car was going to do a wheelie!"

Needless to say he had a blast and it was only a short ride. we hit 25psi which is in the 900+rwhp range on a couple of runs. :D

Japanjay 03-23-2015 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tturbo370z (Post 3144227)
Lmao ok that translates into you don't know what the F u are doing and yoir gonna break your high dollar toy :roflpuke2: I have white line bushings. I know tony at fast intentions welded something on terrible ones car that broke on launch. Sorry I'm not enuf of a car guy to articulate but I'm always up for learning. Thank you phunk for clarifying about preloading the drive train, I though only autos could do this depending on the tire u are running.

ok now back to talking about how badass bullets car is :icon17:

He is actually right. I skip the water, square up and reverse a little, the spank the grit and **** off the tires. I try to get second light staged first and as fast as possible, once the other driver gets first stage, ebrake at full yank, start slipping the clutch ever so slightly while doing my best to hold revs at 3.2-5k. When they get second stage, slip even harder, the *** starts to squat really hard at this point, can only do this for a few seconds because it takes a serious toll on the clutch, I have glazed it over a few times already. Lights drop, side step the clutch, feather the throttle a little trying to maintain traction, bang rev limiter at 7.8k while stabbing the clutch and no lift on throttle pedal, snag second. Miss that and just might as well coast to the end.

But yes you can load up the car really well in a manual, but requires a lot of hand and foot work. Also, like he said smaller brakes on the rear, 15-16" wheel, zero to a degree positive camber on the rear, air down tires. I haven't gone as far as smaller brakes, but I am finally going to a 18" wedsport TC105n with MT street slicks in the rear this year. Even dropping the tire pressure on a 19 to around 25psi makes a world of difference. If you kill the motor, not launching at a high enough RPM and try again.

luigi90210 03-25-2015 04:23 PM

i am glad to see this unicorn running, i remember seeing this car on youtube a couple years ago when i first got my nismo 370z

you should go to TX2K15 and race for some dough, I'm sure you'll make some big bucks eating some of those cars out there

bullitt5897 03-25-2015 04:54 PM

I won't have a chance against 1800+ whp cars hahaha they have way more money than me and that's a pay to play kind of event!

bullitt5897 03-25-2015 04:55 PM

Lol maybe one day... Still sorting through stuff and needing Jon to get the z1 dyno ready...

luigi90210 03-26-2015 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3149124)
I won't have a chance against 1800+ whp cars hahaha they have way more money than me and that's a pay to play kind of event!

thats why you pick on the 700-900hp corrvettes XD

either way i can't wait to see what your car makes fully tuned

KratikosG37 03-26-2015 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3149124)
I won't have a chance against 1800+ whp cars hahaha they have way more money than me and that's a pay to play kind of event!

Need AWD like the GTR or Lambo.

victorofhavoc 03-26-2015 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KratikosG37 (Post 3150374)
Need AWD like the GTR or Lambo.

And a soft rear suspension. Changing rear geometry a bit to have no camber, taller tires, super soft drag radials, and some meaty balls and you'd have a drag car to compete with the best of them...That's a ton of freakin power man!! nice job for sure

roplusbee 03-26-2015 09:48 PM

I think he can go after a lot of cars with 200-300 more HP. The Z is "light" in comparison to a lot of cars out there. If it's a rolling start, lookout!

whiteZ34 03-28-2015 08:02 PM

:iagree: the Z is pretty light, you could hang with many of the cars there. And who cares if you can't win, it's the whole experience of it all and plus when you got a 1000whp car, that's the competition you got to go against. Lol.

But anyways, when's the next dyno run? I wanna see the real powa of that monster!

phunk 03-28-2015 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3149124)
I won't have a chance against 1800+ whp cars hahaha they have way more money than me and that's a pay to play kind of event!

The way you can beat those 1500+ hp GT-Rs is by actually enjoying your car and driving it! They dont have that luxury.

bullitt5897 03-28-2015 11:38 PM

So true! Driving 2 hours one way to a car show tomorrow ;)

KratikosG37 03-29-2015 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3152669)
The way you can beat those 1500+ hp GT-Rs is by actually enjoying your car and driving it! They dont have that luxury.

Not only that 1500hp GTR's can't fuel up down the street. Most TX mile cars are c16 or at best E85.

Like the ETS and AMS GTR's. Yea they're 7sec cars, but take one of them on a 6 hour trip tell me if you can find a pumping station on the way back.:bowrofl:

bullitt5897 03-29-2015 03:23 PM

So I drove to and from the car show today... Put 200+ miles on the car ran a few roll races and even with wheels spinning through 4th and into 5th I had a blast!

G37Sam 03-29-2015 03:33 PM

^ Video's or it never happened!!! :D

bullitt5897 03-29-2015 04:09 PM

I'm not going to incriminate myself but Jon parham has some video of a white blur on his phone that's me lol...

KratikosG37 03-30-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3153281)
So I drove to and from the car show today... Put 200+ miles on the car ran a few roll races and even with wheels spinning through 4th and into 5th I had a blast!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwtWn9XkTjg

spinning like this?:stirthepot:

bullitt5897 03-30-2015 02:47 PM

Thank God NO!!! More like a consistent off angle pull then shift then the car would angle the other direction slightly. Granted I am rolling into the throttle... Not mashing the pedal for fear of that happening to me...

DIGItonium 03-30-2015 02:49 PM

Man... how do you keep the car straight without twisting the rear end and spinning out? That's what I worry about when I floor it in 1st and 2nd.

bullitt5897 03-30-2015 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 3154307)
Man... how do you keep the car straight without twisting the rear end and spinning out? That's what I worry about when I floor it in 1st and 2nd.

1st gear is non existent...
2nd gear the car is sideways and your counter steering while on the throttle...
3rd gear it wants to snap back from the shift and you have to roll on...
4th and 5th it is slightly sideways...

Every pull i have done so far in mexico... the car spins the tires through 4th gear... I typically short shift at 5k rpm on some runs depending on the other car to make it even and to keep the car from going too sideways...

ran it over the weekend against my buddies 600whp 300zx and even with him jumping the start (lol on 3)... me short shifting with tire spin I caught him in one gear and was passing him... once i caught him and started to pass him I cut the throttle as it was getting way to fast... that and I was running no hood and plastics in the engine bay started to lift and wave hi to him as I passed him.

victorofhavoc 03-30-2015 03:29 PM

why do you have no hood??

DIGItonium 03-30-2015 03:30 PM

Do you have it setup for boost level per gear, or have Racelogic TCS installed? How about your gearbox, is it built?

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Originally Posted by victorofhavoc (Post 3154365)
why do you have no hood??

Because racecar. :p

bullitt5897 03-30-2015 03:50 PM

Lol true because racecar!

my new hood arrived today or so says Jon from Z1... we will see when I call him in a few...

Only an upgraded clutch and flywheel at the moment. The OEM gears are perfectly fine for these power levels suprisingly... may go down to a lower Final drive to get better top end and improve drive-ability. 1st gear 60mph anyone hehehe

I am still awaiting my traction control unit from GTM. We were missing the wiring harness and Zeliminator was kind enough to loan his for a new one to be made for me!

roplusbee 03-30-2015 10:34 PM

Awesome

Mr.Squeeze 03-31-2015 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3154393)
Lol true because racecar!

my new hood arrived today or so says Jon from Z1... we will see when I call him in a few...

Only an upgraded clutch and flywheel at the moment. The OEM gears are perfectly fine for these power levels suprisingly... may go down to a lower Final drive to get better top end and improve drive-ability. 1st gear 60mph anyone hehehe

I am still awaiting my traction control unit from GTM. We were missing the wiring harness and Zeliminator was kind enough to loan his for a new one to be made for me!

Just go with the lower final drive trust me you wont regret it.:driving:

bullitt5897 03-31-2015 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 3154877)
Just go with the lower final drive trust me you wont regret it.:driving:

What ratio did you go with? Automatic transmission final drive?

victorofhavoc 03-31-2015 09:34 AM

do you have a true LSD? not the viscous BS stuff

bullitt5897 03-31-2015 12:01 PM

It's stock lmfao!!! Ps OS giken I need a diff!

victorofhavoc 03-31-2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3155367)
It's stock lmfao!!! Ps OS giken I need a diff!

lol...explains a lot of traction issues! that stock one barely does anything for stock power. Cusco makes a clutch type diff, and those grab the best usually. I'd do a decent diff before changing out the final drive, though doing both probably won't hurt :driving:

phunk 03-31-2015 02:23 PM

When applying power in a straight line, i havent had any issues with single tire slip with the stock diff. But it definitely gets screwy when turning more than a couple degrees.

KratikosG37 03-31-2015 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3154304)
Thank God NO!!! More like a consistent off angle pull then shift then the car would angle the other direction slightly. Granted I am rolling into the throttle... Not mashing the pedal for fear of that happening to me...

That's crazy power.

Personally I run a lower tune and make 4/5 gear useable at full throttle.:driving:

Spinning is fun, but if the guy next to you is putting buses on you because of 0 traction then its not so fun.

Mr.Squeeze 03-31-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3155154)
What ratio did you go with? Automatic transmission final drive?

I went with the auto FYI below is comparison of stock vs the 3.3 mine is a little higher because I rev to 7800 Rpm. With the power you are making you're car would be a completely different animal than it is already.

3.69 Final drive 3.3 Final drive
7500 Rpm Redline 7500 Rpm Redline.

First -----41mph First------- MPH46
Second --68mph Second MPH74
Third ----97mph Third MPH107
Forth ----124mph Forth MPH136
Fith------157mph Fith MPH173
Sixth-----198mph Sixth MPH218

bullitt5897 04-04-2015 06:50 PM

So an update for everyone... We made some great progress! On Friday we worked on the fuel mappings to increase the cars daily drivability. In the process we were able to sneak out some more power at lower boost levels. We have set the daily boost levels for 22psi... We made 853rwhp and 671ftlbs at 22psi on 93 octane. I was also able to get a proper alignment on the car and took the rear camber from -3* of camber to -.7*! Woah what difference that made! The car hooks now and the power really gets to the ground! Soo much though that I got to play around with my boy Rob's Nismo GTR last night and I felt really comfortable playing with him with partial throttle runs!!! This car is stupid fast! The car easily can out pace the Nismo gtr and probably any sub 800whp GTR... In a straight line that is and from a roll...

bullitt5897 04-04-2015 08:23 PM

Ohhh and we have a new hood too!

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...pszx5eh0bb.jpg

bullitt5897 04-04-2015 08:25 PM

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psckgcbkin.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psslsxzccd.jpg

tturbo370z 04-04-2015 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 3155578)
I went with the auto FYI below is comparison of stock vs the 3.3 mine is a little higher because I rev to 7800 Rpm. With the power you are making you're car would be a completely different animal than it is already.

3.69 Final drive 3.3 Final drive
7500 Rpm Redline 7500 Rpm Redline.

First -----41mph First------- MPH46
Second --68mph Second MPH74
Third ----97mph Third MPH107
Forth ----124mph Forth MPH136
Fith------157mph Fith MPH173
Sixth-----198mph Sixth MPH218

That's what I'm gonna do on slims recommendation. Thanks for the posting up the chart my bro. That makes me all that more anxious to get mines in :driving:

bullitt5897 04-09-2015 08:40 AM

853rwhp/677ftlbs @22psi on 93 octane:

ENJOY! its loud...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psmhtbfsvv.mp4

bullitt5897 04-09-2015 09:09 AM

on a side note here are the calculations I came up with for gearing:

Based on an 7500RPM redline

Stock 6MT: 3.69 Final Drive
1--44mph
2--71mph
3--102mph
4--131mph
5--166mph
6--210mph

6MT with the 3.3 Final Drive:

1--48mph
2--79mph
3--113mph
4--144mph
5--183mph
6--231mph

victorofhavoc 04-09-2015 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3164000)
on a side note here are the calculations I came up with for gearing:

Based on an 7500RPM redline

Stock 6MT: 3.69 Final Drive
1--44mph
2--71mph
3--102mph
4--131mph
5--166mph
6--210mph

6MT with the 3.3 Final Drive:

1--48mph
2--79mph
3--113mph
4--144mph
5--183mph
6--231mph



Do I sense a desire to insure accuracy and actually hit 231? :)

jwick 04-09-2015 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3164000)
on a side note here are the calculations I came up with for gearing:

Based on an 7500RPM redline

Stock 6MT: 3.69 Final Drive
1--44mph
2--71mph
3--102mph
4--131mph
5--166mph
6--210mph

6MT with the 3.3 Final Drive:

1--48mph
2--79mph
3--113mph
4--144mph
5--183mph
6--231mph

Those stock MT numbers look a little high in each gear. I don't hit 100 in third and top of 4th is more like 125ish. Not that I have any actual experience with that level of speed:ugh2:


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