Scubasubikers build thread

Jasonle · 03-11-2013, 05:44 AM

wow you know your stuff. Nice front bumper!

italy3541 · 03-11-2013, 06:14 AM

im in for updates. your build looks interesting. i had a similar idea with the 2013 fron bumber. i was gonna add the fangs to it. i have not yet gotten my next z but am in the process of finding another one.. my brother acutaly came up with the idea of adding the fangs to the 2013 when he first saw it and kinda got the idea planted in my head a few months ago...lol.. its cool to see someone else trying it first.. it will give me a good idea of how the end result will come out.. keep up the good work!!!

Scubasubiker · 03-11-2013, 08:30 AM

Form follows function! Catching some serious s**t from friends for taking a perfectly good new car with less than 500 miles and tearing it all apart.

AlexRaymond19 · 03-11-2013, 11:59 AM

Screw em' Its your car, make yourself happy with it! Looking good :-)

Scubasubiker · 03-11-2013, 02:00 PM

Anyone here know anyone who has experience with repair, mounding and the best way to get things to stick to urethene? I'm used to fiberglass. I can make moulds and bulild just about any curve or part with that but urethene is new to me.

italy3541 · 03-11-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scubasubiker

Anyone here know anyone who has experience with repair, mounding and the best way to get things to stick to urethene? I'm used to fiberglass. I can make moulds and bulild just about any curve or part with that but urethene is new to me.

the tricky part is gonna be keeping it from cracking. once you get the bumper cut to fit the fangs there is many different types of industrial adhesive you can use to atach.. being that u have done body work before im sure you should have some around.. i would use one with a slow set so this way the fiberglass doesnt heat up to much and become brittle. once it hard then use duraglass to smoth out the area where it attaches, it will also help with the bonding being that there is fiberglass mixed into the durglass.. after that use body filler to smooth and fill any imperfections.. i always use rage gold, but everyone has their preferance on body filler.. after that prep/prime/paint.. the only issue i see in the long run is cracking being that urathane has a lot more flex to it. the fiberglass part will be more rigid but i think if you mount some type if support beam on the underside of where you put the fangs to make it a little more stiff you could cut down on some of the flex and vibration..

hope this helps..

Scubasubiker · 03-11-2013, 06:00 PM

Agreed! You are sharp! cracking is the issue. I'm thinking 1 ounce fabric layered over the crack from where the fiberglass meets the urethane, sanded thinly. Maybe if it's thin enough it won't crack the paint later. It will have to be a resin, not a paste. The other issue is shrinkage from heat and time, all these compounds/ materials have diff shrinkage rates..and aging is not an option for me. Going to start with a mold of the original led area on the OEM bumper...build a FG part. THIS is going to be time consuming! Will consider your support beam idea.

italy3541 · 03-11-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Scubasubiker

Agreed! You are sharp! cracking is the issue. I'm thinking 1 ounce fabric layered over the crack from where the fiberglass meets the urethane, sanded thinly. Maybe if it's thin enough it won't crack the paint later. It will have to be a resin, not a paste. The other issue is shrinkage from heat and time, all these compounds/ materials have diff shrinkage rates..and aging is not an option for me. Going to start with a mold of the original led area on the OEM bumper...build a FG part. THIS is going to be time consuming! Will consider your support beam idea.

i would use the mat instead if fabric. the crisscros randomness of the strands tends to be better for strength. when u mix ur resin i would use minimal MEK it will harden slower but wont get as hot and not shrink as much. plus the mat is easier to stuff into cracks saving you time once you start to apply the resin. the fabric likes to move around once you start to put the resin on.. i cant count the times iv had to hold the fabric with one hand while trying to put the resin on with the other...lol.. so frustrating.

Mike · 03-11-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scubasubiker

Form follows function! Catching some serious s**t from friends for taking a perfectly good new car with less than 500 miles and tearing it all apart.

I had two weeks after I bought mine for it to be delivered, as it was in transit, so I already had new springs, sways and wheels for it when it got here.

I drove it home from the dealership and immediately put it on jackstands and ripped it apart.

Scubasubiker · 03-11-2013, 07:56 PM

Italy--- SI...so many techniques, hard to decide. What's you're experience with FG and how did u obtain it... If u dont mind me asking? Work, play, both...

Mike---it's likely I'll get to drive my 13 in 14! LOL!

italy3541 · 03-11-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Scubasubiker

Italy--- SI...so many techniques, hard to decide. What's you're experience with FG and how did u obtain it... If u dont mind me asking? Work, play, both...

Mike---it's likely I'll get to drive my 13 in 14! LOL!

well i have been in the automotive industry for about 15 years. i used to build custom show cars and race cars. i started useing fiberglass back in about 1996 doing custom boxes amp racks etc. i have 22 different electronic certifications for automotive electronics.. i do everything from building custom steros full car rewireing stand alone computers, custom ignigtion systems, remote startes navigation etc.. i started out when i was young turning wrenches with my dad, he loved nissan and kinda turned me into a nissan nut. by 1992 i was doing steros etc for my brothers friends, by 1996 i had a little shop out of my garage and did all my buddies cars and most of the people in my school.. by 1998 i got my first job as a installer at a shop and kinda just went from there.. i started to get more and more certifications and got more and more into in depth automotive wireing. this was mostly because of doing a lot of raceing and the cars having issues with fuel delivery and things of that nature.. started to do stand alone ecus and things like that.. so basicly cars have been my life for as long as i can remember. i worked on the to make a living and when i was done with qork i was right back in them for fun. i hurt my leg real bad a few years ago and, and was down for about 2 years. so i stoped installing after that.. recently i have gotten my leg strong enough to go back to being a tec..

sorry i tend to be long winded.. there is a ton more to the story so thats the short version... so to answer ur question iv been working with fiberglass for a long time, for work,fun etc...lol..

Scubasubiker · 03-11-2013, 08:29 PM

Nice! No prob with long winded.... I can respect an opinion more with some back ground. THX for the adVI.

italy3541 · 03-11-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Scubasubiker

Nice! No prob with long winded.... I can respect an opinion more with some back ground. THX for the adVI.

Scubasubiker · 03-13-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasonle

wow you know your stuff. Nice front bumper!

Not really. I'm an amateur... And don't EVEN ask me about engines.. This girl is NO mechanic

that's what men are for !

Scubasubiker · 03-13-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Screw em' Its your car, make yourself happy with it! Looking good :-)

Screw Em and make myself happy has TOTALLY been my motto lately! THX...Ahhhh, don't take that the wrong way boys! LoL!

03-11-2013, 05:44 AM	#16 (permalink)
Jasonle A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 3,509 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 25	wow you know your stuff. Nice front bumper! __________________ 2009 Nissan 370z/2003 Honda Soccer Van Shineauto Amuse Body Kit/UAM Fenders/Bc Br Coilovers/Topspeed Exhaust/Racing Hart Wheels and More My Sexy Beast

03-11-2013, 08:30 AM	#18 (permalink)
Scubasubiker Base Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Joplin, MO Posts: 105 Drives: Like I boosted it! Rep Power: 12	Form follows function! Catching some serious s*t from friends for taking a perfectly good new car with less than 500 miles and tearing it all apart. Mike, gurneyeagle, speedfreek and 1 others like this. Last edited by Scubasubiker; 03-11-2013 at 08:38 AM.*

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03-11-2013, 06:14 AM	#17 (permalink)
italy3541 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: pa Posts: 1,491 Drives: 2014BMW Z4 35isdrive Rep Power: 17	im in for updates. your build looks interesting. i had a similar idea with the 2013 fron bumber. i was gonna add the fangs to it. i have not yet gotten my next z but am in the process of finding another one.. my brother acutaly came up with the idea of adding the fangs to the 2013 when he first saw it and kinda got the idea planted in my head a few months ago...lol.. its cool to see someone else trying it first.. it will give me a good idea of how the end result will come out.. keep up the good work!!!

03-11-2013, 02:00 PM	#20 (permalink)
Scubasubiker Base Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Joplin, MO Posts: 105 Drives: Like I boosted it! Rep Power: 12	Anyone here know anyone who has experience with repair, mounding and the best way to get things to stick to urethene? I'm used to fiberglass. I can make moulds and bulild just about any curve or part with that but urethene is new to me.

03-11-2013, 06:00 PM	#22 (permalink)
Scubasubiker Base Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Joplin, MO Posts: 105 Drives: Like I boosted it! Rep Power: 12	Agreed! You are sharp! cracking is the issue. I'm thinking 1 ounce fabric layered over the crack from where the fiberglass meets the urethane, sanded thinly. Maybe if it's thin enough it won't crack the paint later. It will have to be a resin, not a paste. The other issue is shrinkage from heat and time, all these compounds/ materials have diff shrinkage rates..and aging is not an option for me. Going to start with a mold of the original led area on the OEM bumper...build a FG part. THIS is going to be time consuming! Will consider your support beam idea.

03-11-2013, 07:56 PM	#25 (permalink)
Scubasubiker Base Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Joplin, MO Posts: 105 Drives: Like I boosted it! Rep Power: 12	Italy--- SI...so many techniques, hard to decide. What's you're experience with FG and how did u obtain it... If u dont mind me asking? Work, play, both... Mike---it's likely I'll get to drive my 13 in 14! LOL!

03-11-2013, 08:29 PM	#27 (permalink)
Scubasubiker Base Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Joplin, MO Posts: 105 Drives: Like I boosted it! Rep Power: 12	Nice! No prob with long winded.... I can respect an opinion more with some back ground. THX for the adVI.