370Z/Black/Swirls

kenchan · 10-25-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA

there is no such thing as self healing paint. factory paint is a very thin single stage. aftermarket paint jobs are usually a sealer/color(basecoat)/clearcoat which is far superior.

also there is no such things as UFO's....

KaienZ34 · 10-25-2011, 10:55 AM

Wait don't tell me after we had to put up with his crap all this time he's thinking about getting a z now. For the love of all that is good and holy please please don't get a z.

christian370z · 10-25-2011, 11:33 AM

There's a reason Infiniti is stopping the use of self healing paint. When it gets a scratch or swirl, the paint will self heal the first time but one is has healed at that one place, it can never heal there again. It is also a detailer's worst nightmare to polish, ask me how I know.

ImportConvert · 10-25-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

Wait don't tell me after we had to put up with his crap all this time he's thinking about getting a z now. For the love of all that is good and holy please please don't get a z.

Don't worry, you're safe until the loaded Touring/Sport/NAV's hit US soil, then I do fully intend on trading into one.

Jeffblue · 10-25-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The black is not much worse than the other colors if you take care of it, at least from what I've seen.

I know jeffblue and zcarman have/had pretty much swirl free cars.

And if you want persimmon, black is the way to go.

happy halloween!

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Black is fine if you are OCD and have a garage.

word, black (or any other dark color) isnt any more easily damaged than any other color, its just that other colors hide it better. especially if its a pearl color, like the PW on the 370z, you can swirl the sh1t out of it and unless you really look close you wont notice it.

one nice good clay/polish per year along with proper (2 bucket, grit guards, multiple wash mits, lots of microfiber towels) washing technique will yield a pretty much swirl free car. By the time you do your annual polishing, there will be a few minor swirls that will be easily removed with a fairly light polish and a porter cable and you're back in action with a swirl free car.

Black 2010 370z

Black 1994 300zx TT (original, 17 year old paint)

Blue 2008 BMW 335 (Original 3 year old paint)

ImportConvert · 10-25-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

happy halloween!

word, black (or any other dark color) isnt any more easily damaged than any other color, its just that other colors hide it better. especially if its a pearl color, like the PW on the 370z, you can swirl the sh1t out of it and unless you really look close you wont notice it.

one nice good clay/polish per year along with proper (2 bucket, grit guards, multiple wash mits, lots of microfiber towels) washing technique will yield a pretty much swirl free car. By the time you do your annual polishing, there will be a few minor swirls that will be easily removed with a fairly light polish and a porter cable and you're back in action with a swirl free car.

Black 2010 370z

Black 1994 300zx TT (original, 17 year old paint)

Blue 2008 BMW 335 (Original 3 year old paint)

Not sure I want to dedicate that much to it. How does Gunmetal Gray do at hiding a swirl, in comparison? Sick color combo though. I love me the camel fur! (which I will insist on calling it)

More interior shots?

m4a1mustang · 10-25-2011, 11:49 AM

Gunmetal has enough flake in it to help hide swirls.

ImportConvert · 10-25-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Gunmetal has enough flake in it to help hide swirls.

That's what I was thinking. I WISH! I could buy a 40th with NAV, but does not/did not exist. Black interior is just "meh". It's all I've ever owned. Want something different, but not gray.

m4a1mustang · 10-25-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

That's what I was thinking. I WISH! I could buy a 40th with NAV, but does not/did not exist. Black interior is just "meh". It's all I've ever owned. Want something different, but not gray.

You racist.

Jeffblue · 10-25-2011, 11:51 AM

Not much better. I've seen some really swirled up gunmetal cars. a few hours once a year, as well as an extra 15-20 mins to take your time each wash to do it properly isn't really that much in order to keep your car looking nice IMO. once you get into it you start to enjoy it.

KaienZ34 · 10-25-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Don't worry, you're safe until the loaded Touring/Sport/NAV's hit US soil, then I do fully intend on trading into one.

god help us all

ImportConvert · 10-25-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

Not much better. I've seen some really swirled up gunmetal cars. a few hours once a year, as well as an extra 15-20 mins to take your time each wash to do it properly isn't really that much in order to keep your car looking nice IMO. once you get into it you start to enjoy it.

You're convincing me.
I guess I'm just a weenie after seeing some dumbass at my old dealership shred some clearcoat in 3 seconds flat with a buffer (he was being a 'tard and turned it up on high when he wasn't getting the results in the time he wanted). I have heard the portercable is foolproof, and seen videos of that guy mashing it into his blue 'vette, but I'm skeptical.

Can I really just buff the whole car out with it using a fine polish and it be okay? Do I need to buff in a certain pattern.direction to avoid "tracks" or anything, or just buff the whole thing however I want, as long as it all gets done?

b1adesofcha0s · 10-25-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

That's what I was thinking. I WISH! I could buy a 40th with NAV, but does not/did not exist. Black interior is just "meh". It's all I've ever owned. Want something different, but not gray.

You can always get an aftermarket head unit

ImportConvert · 10-25-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

god help us all

I guess you missed the whole fiasco of me saying over and over I didn't have a problem with the Z, it just had a few fatal flaws for me, one was the oil-cooler (fixed), and one is power (I went to spring mountain and learned a little something about power vs. skill, and I am moving to a place with much more corners and many fewer straightaways).

ImportConvert · 10-25-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

You can always get an aftermarket head unit

I'm a whore for stock + tint + radar detector + wrap.

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christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 431	There's a reason Infiniti is stopping the use of self healing paint. When it gets a scratch or swirl, the paint will self heal the first time but one is has healed at that one place, it can never heal there again. It is also a detailer's worst nightmare to polish, ask me how I know. __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

10-25-2011, 11:49 AM	#22 (permalink)
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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	Not much better. I've seen some really swirled up gunmetal cars. a few hours once a year, as well as an extra 15-20 mins to take your time each wash to do it properly isn't really that much in order to keep your car looking nice IMO. once you get into it you start to enjoy it.