in the world of Spoilers / Wings

daisuke149 · 08-04-2011, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TongMan

I'm surprised how popular huge wings are with Z owners. I guess it's the cool thing to do if you have a Z.

your right. the 5 or so people that have a huge wing make it superbly popular

P.S ask someone who tracks alot, aka Mike, if his wing is useless under 140mph..

SPOHN · 08-04-2011, 09:18 AM

^ right on.
And I do believe they create downforce at way lower speeds than 140. At least according to APR. But hey maybe you know more than them? But I will be tracking a couple times left in the year. More so next year. But if you saw me on the street you would still laugh not knowing.

TongMan · 08-04-2011, 09:25 AM

I do not doubt that they create down force. I also agree that huge wings on track cars are fine. But, it's when I see it on the public streets that I cringe. Maximum speed limit is 45mph on a public street and 65mph on freeways. How much down force is really needed to keep the rear from lifting on public streets?

Mike's car is a track car, so it's understandable that he has a huge wing. Most of the time, he'll be moving faster than 80mph. From what I can remember, Mike's car is not a public street car, he tows its to his tracking events.

daisuke149 · 08-04-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TongMan

I do not doubt that they create down force. I also agree that huge wings on track cars are fine. But, it's when I see it on the public streets that I cringe. Maximum speed limit is 45mph on a public street and 65mph on freeways. How much down force is really needed to keep the rear from lifting on public streets?

Mike's car is a track car, so it's understandable that he has a huge wing. Most of the time, he'll be moving faster than 80mph. From what I can remember, Mike's car is not a public street car, he tows its to his tracking events.

see now your back tracking. you said they wont do anything under 140mph. and thats crap.

True they arent "needed" on the street. But then our cars themselves arent needed for the street either. we should all go buy a honda fit or something.

I see, now quoting speed limits, (roads here, non highway go up to 60, and some highways are 70). If you quote speed limits, you better be damn sure you never speed yourself.

Roadster4Us · 08-04-2011, 09:35 AM

Plus you don't need to be going fast enough to lift the rear of the car in order to benefit from downforce.

None of this even matters if someone is adding a wing because they like the way it looks.

SPOHN · 08-04-2011, 09:35 AM

And some drive to the track. But your saying if you saw it on the the street you would cringe. Maybe there headed that way. Point is it's there when you need it. Just like my brake pads. I don't get full use out of then daily but they are there when I need them.

I cringe when I see a wing on a FWD car. Now that's pointless.

Red__Zed · 08-04-2011, 09:37 AM

No need to get so defensive here guys. Functional wings are rice, just deal with it. Installing non matching rims is pure class though.

TongMan · 08-04-2011, 09:44 AM

Last I checked, non matching rims are functional too...am I wrong?

6MT · 08-04-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

see now your back tracking. you said they wont do anything under 140mph. and thats crap.

True they arent "needed" on the street. But then our cars themselves arent needed for the street either. we should all go buy a honda fit or something.

I see, now quoting speed limits, (roads here, non highway go up to 60, and some highways are 70). If you quote speed limits, you better be damn sure you never speed yourself.

SPOHN · 08-04-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

No need to get so defensive here guys. Functional wings are rice, just deal with it. Installing non matching rims is pure class though.

fuct · 08-04-2011, 09:50 AM

i use my nismo spoiler as a shelf! hold all my sh1t before i can get it into my pockets.

theDreamer · 08-04-2011, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Roadster4Us

None of this even matters if someone is adding a wing because they like the way it looks.

Ding, that is what matters.
I agree wings are designed for functional track use, but does not mean they cannot be used elsewhere for style.

SPOHN · 08-04-2011, 09:57 AM

I love the style of them also. Also I love hot wings too.

TongMan · 08-04-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Ding, that is what matters.
I agree wings are designed for functional track use, but does not mean they cannot be used elsewhere for style.

So, that means it's "rice" then, right? Racing Inspired Cosmetic Enhancement? Just like all those Honda Civics with huge down force wings are rice.

theDreamer · 08-04-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TongMan

So, that means it's "rice" then, right? Racing Inspired Cosmetic Enhancement? Just like all those Honda Civics with huge down force wings are rice.

Not even close, I am say a properly built wing is function over form but can add style to a car.
I am not getting in the debate about it being rice or driving it on the street.

08-04-2011, 09:18 AM	#77 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	^ right on. And I do believe they create downforce at way lower speeds than 140. At least according to APR. But hey maybe you know more than them? But I will be tracking a couple times left in the year. More so next year. But if you saw me on the street you would still laugh not knowing. __________________

08-04-2011, 09:35 AM	#80 (permalink)
Roadster4Us A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,328 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Rep Power: 15	Plus you don't need to be going fast enough to lift the rear of the car in order to benefit from downforce. None of this even matters if someone is adding a wing because they like the way it looks. __________________ Greg 2013 Camaro ZL1

08-04-2011, 09:35 AM	#81 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	And some drive to the track. But your saying if you saw it on the the street you would cringe. Maybe there headed that way. Point is it's there when you need it. Just like my brake pads. I don't get full use out of then daily but they are there when I need them. I cringe when I see a wing on a FWD car. Now that's pointless. __________________

08-04-2011, 09:57 AM	#88 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I love the style of them also. Also I love hot wings too. __________________

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08-04-2011, 09:25 AM	#78 (permalink)
TongMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,297 Drives: 2013 Nissan GTR Rep Power: 715	I do not doubt that they create down force. I also agree that huge wings on track cars are fine. But, it's when I see it on the public streets that I cringe. Maximum speed limit is 45mph on a public street and 65mph on freeways. How much down force is really needed to keep the rear from lifting on public streets? Mike's car is a track car, so it's understandable that he has a huge wing. Most of the time, he'll be moving faster than 80mph. From what I can remember, Mike's car is not a public street car, he tows its to his tracking events.

08-04-2011, 09:37 AM	#82 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 119	No need to get so defensive here guys. Functional wings are rice, just deal with it. Installing non matching rims is pure class though.

08-04-2011, 09:44 AM	#83 (permalink)
TongMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,297 Drives: 2013 Nissan GTR Rep Power: 715	Last I checked, non matching rims are functional too...am I wrong?

08-04-2011, 09:50 AM	#86 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 23	i use my nismo spoiler as a shelf! hold all my sh1t before i can get it into my pockets.