Oh snap, Carbon fiber rear hatch dampners...

Vegitto-kun · 05-05-2010, 03:40 AM

These problems are really starting to scare me

kenchan · 05-05-2010, 07:12 AM

Because you're a novice wimp?

We need to change your name to Virgin-kun. Hahaha

Fitment issues is normal for modding cars. Doing work arounds is usual stuff. After I bent that lip ledge thingie down its been a lot better. If you remove the battery cover id be even better. I might just remove the battery cover and surround all together, but keep the rubber seal strip as is.

The damper is very convenient for me cause I pop the hood often to connect my battery manager during the week.

Prosport Gauges · 05-05-2010, 08:06 AM

Kenchan, thanks for the update. we will be looking at this also. I know what you mean we have to work around things. Even if we made the strut part smaller in length i think the silver part of the strut will still hit that fender piece.

I noticed in the last pic in your review the hood looks perfect!

Prosport Gauges · 05-05-2010, 08:27 PM

We can also make the pieces modshack is talking about but we looked at this already...

but looking over kenchan last hood shot, it seems fine

just had to move the cover over a hair

Prosport Gauges · 05-05-2010, 10:14 PM

We tried running it straight and there seems to be no way it will work! it pushed so hard the hood almost wouldnt close!

ZPirate · 05-05-2010, 10:20 PM

Maybe the dampers are too large then for this particular application?

Modshack · 05-05-2010, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan_west06

We tried running it straight and there seems to be no way it will work! it pushed so hard the hood almost wouldnt close!

Ryan...Do you happen to know the spring pressure of those cylinders? They seem to be available in 10 lb force increments....

Not sure how moving the fender side ball an inch to the right/left would affect that much given the very slight change in angularity..

kenchan · 05-06-2010, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack

Ryan...Do you happen to know the spring pressure of those cylinders? They seem to be available in 10 lb force increments....

Not sure how moving the fender side ball an inch to the right/left would affect that much given the very slight change in angularity..

i dont think it's going to change all that much as far as the force... and honestly speaking, these are retail $99... so manufacturing cost is $25 for the pair...that's like less than $10 each for the dampers themselves. i dont expect them to be extremely accurate as far as spring pressure consistency.

cant wait to see how you clear the battery cover side.

Prosport Gauges · 05-05-2010, 10:26 PM

to large meaning the diameter of the strut? any thinner it most likely wont hold the hood up.

but Kenchan figured it out! and our Z has no buldge

ZPirate · 05-06-2010, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan_west06

to large meaning the diameter of the strut? any thinner it most likely wont hold the hood up.

I meant in terms of diameter. But it could also be the spring rate or perhaps both the diameter and the spring rate. For example a smaller diameter strut with the same or a lesser spring rate might work just as well if it's mounting points were more in a straight line. A smaller diameter strut would also have less likelihood of rubbing. I see Modshack has already asked about the spring rates of your struts.

Prosport Gauges · 05-05-2010, 11:14 PM

I will need to check tomorrow. but i dont think it will affect it at all.

off the top of my head i know its about 80+ lb pressure.

Rickey89 · 05-05-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan_west06

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kenchan · 05-06-2010, 09:16 AM

Zpirate- the diameter is 19.6mm for ryan's. this is over the CF part of the housing.

The NRG i have on my G is smaller but only marginally... like 18.0mm. the car needs more like 10mm additional clearance for the dampers if it was not to rub the battery cover surround piece... there is just no room.

the structure of the 370Z is completely different from your 350Z and my G35C... there's really not much room in there~.

Modshack · 05-06-2010, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

Zpirate- the diameter is 196mm for ryan's. this is over the CF part of the housing.

19.6mm (.77")...Correct. Readily available cylinders from my source are 19.1 (.75") without the CF, so little difference there. Spring rate is really not an issue here as Ryan's do the job (I was curious more than anything), but the struts I've found can be spec'd from 20 to 130 lbs in 10 lb. increments so there seems to be some precision in the manufacture of these..

kenchan · 05-06-2010, 11:54 AM

yah, my decimal point is in the wrong area...

05-05-2010, 08:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
Prosport Gauges Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 339 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 0	Kenchan, thanks for the update. we will be looking at this also. I know what you mean we have to work around things. Even if we made the strut part smaller in length i think the silver part of the strut will still hit that fender piece. I noticed in the last pic in your review the hood looks perfect! Last edited by Prosport Gauges; 05-05-2010 at 08:08 AM.

05-05-2010, 10:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
ZPirate Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 792 Drives: 09' 370Z & 03' 350Z Rep Power: 19	Maybe the dampers are too large then for this particular application? __________________ 2003 Daytona Blue 350Z Touring/Nismo 2009 Platinum Graphite 370Z Touring/Sport (Sold) 2009 BMW 135i/Dinan Stage 2 software upgrade/M3 suspension piecies/Koni Sports/ETS FMIC/Alufelgen SF-71 wheels

05-06-2010, 09:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	Zpirate- the diameter is 19.6mm for ryan's. this is over the CF part of the housing. The NRG i have on my G is smaller but only marginally... like 18.0mm. the car needs more like 10mm additional clearance for the dampers if it was not to rub the battery cover surround piece... there is just no room. the structure of the 370Z is completely different from your 350Z and my G35C... there's really not much room in there~. Last edited by kenchan; 05-06-2010 at 11:55 AM. Reason: decimal fixed...

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05-05-2010, 03:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 264	These problems are really starting to scare me

05-05-2010, 07:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	Because you're a novice wimp? We need to change your name to Virgin-kun. Hahaha Fitment issues is normal for modding cars. Doing work arounds is usual stuff. After I bent that lip ledge thingie down its been a lot better. If you remove the battery cover id be even better. I might just remove the battery cover and surround all together, but keep the rubber seal strip as is. The damper is very convenient for me cause I pop the hood often to connect my battery manager during the week.

05-05-2010, 08:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Prosport Gauges Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 339 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 0	We can also make the pieces modshack is talking about but we looked at this already... but looking over kenchan last hood shot, it seems fine just had to move the cover over a hair

05-05-2010, 10:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Prosport Gauges Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 339 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 0	We tried running it straight and there seems to be no way it will work! it pushed so hard the hood almost wouldnt close!

05-05-2010, 10:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
Prosport Gauges Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 339 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 0	to large meaning the diameter of the strut? any thinner it most likely wont hold the hood up. but Kenchan figured it out! and our Z has no buldge

05-05-2010, 11:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
Prosport Gauges Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 339 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 0	I will need to check tomorrow. but i dont think it will affect it at all. off the top of my head i know its about 80+ lb pressure.

05-06-2010, 11:54 AM	#15 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	yah, my decimal point is in the wrong area...