IRP vs Coolerworx Comparison

redondoaveb · 03-20-2023, 06:32 PM

Here's the IRP and the silicone rubber pad I made for it

NorthStyle · 03-20-2023, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

This updated linkage piece was suppose to be the fix. I didn't use the oem rubber dust guard.

Only difference I can think of is 1) I reused the dust guard which could have an effect on reducing vibrations, and 2) instead of a plastic insert, I used the metal ones but used grease instead (also on the o-ring... pretty much just slathered the isht on everything that touched something else). No clue, but hope the IRP works out better for you.

redondoaveb · 03-20-2023, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NorthStyle

Only difference I can think of is 1) I reused the dust guard which could have an effect on reducing vibrations, and 2) instead of a plastic insert, I used the metal ones but used grease instead (also on the o-ring... pretty much just slathered the isht on everything that touched something else). No clue, but hope the IRP works out better for you.

I greased the crap out of everything too. I had big hopes that it would fix the problem. I think part of the problem could be metal on metal contact between the shifter base and trans tunnel. There's nothing to absorb the body vibration, that's why I going to try the pad on the IRP.

trangalang · 03-21-2023, 01:29 AM

Had it on the car for a while. There is a slight rattle at higher RPM's but I don't think it's coming from the shifter.

After hearing the rattle, I pulled the IRP shifter out and took it almost entirely apart (the only thing I wasn't able to get off was the button - more on that below). Greased everything (grub screws, bolts, bearings, etc) and put the OEM shifter back in so I could still drive the car in the meantime. Still rattles with the OEM shifter at high RPM's, I believe it's coming from my linkage. Crawled underneath the car and shook the linkage by hand and that seems to be it.

The button sits on a bolt that threads into the aluminum body of the shifter. There is a grub screw holding this bolt down to prevent it from vibrating loose. Seems like this grub screw is over-tightened from the factory, because it bent the threads on the bolt that holds the button. I was able to rotate the button a few degrees by hand but with the bent threads, it'll never fully come out. From what I've seen on the FRS forums, the newer revisions of the IRP shifter has an o-ring around the button so I don't think that'll be a source of the rattle.

Putting the IRP shifter back together, I accidentally over-tightened the grub screw that holds the reverse lockout cable in place. This caused the end of that cable to push into the aluminum lever of the shifter and dent it, preventing the reverse lockout button from going down. It was a nice $177 mistake on my part

luckily IRP was able to send me a replacement lever.

Overall, still happy with the shifter. Compared to the Coolerworx, everything just seems to be tighter in terms of tolerances and I prefer the reverse lockout cable being hidden. The piece that redondoaveb posted (replacement Coolerworx part) is a lot more snug on the IRP compared to the Coolerworx - mine had a bit of play when I took the Coolerworx shifter out.

Photo attached, don't over-tighten those 2.5mm and 3mm grub screws if you decide to take the shifter apart!

redondoaveb · 03-21-2023, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by trangalang

Had it on the car for a while. There is a slight rattle at higher RPM's but I don't think it's coming from the shifter.

After hearing the rattle, I pulled the IRP shifter out and took it almost entirely apart (the only thing I wasn't able to get off was the button - more on that below). Greased everything (grub screws, bolts, bearings, etc) and put the OEM shifter back in so I could still drive the car in the meantime. Still rattles with the OEM shifter at high RPM's, I believe it's coming from my linkage. Crawled underneath the car and shook the linkage by hand and that seems to be it.

The button sits on a bolt that threads into the aluminum body of the shifter. There is a grub screw holding this bolt down to prevent it from vibrating loose. Seems like this grub screw is over-tightened from the factory, because it bent the threads on the bolt that holds the button. I was able to rotate the button a few degrees by hand but with the bent threads, it'll never fully come out. From what I've seen on the FRS forums, the newer revisions of the IRP shifter has an o-ring around the button so I don't think that'll be a source of the rattle.

Putting the IRP shifter back together, I accidentally over-tightened the grub screw that holds the reverse lockout cable in place. This caused the end of that cable to push into the aluminum lever of the shifter and dent it, preventing the reverse lockout button from going down. It was a nice $177 mistake on my part

luckily IRP was able to send me a replacement lever.

Overall, still happy with the shifter. Compared to the Coolerworx, everything just seems to be tighter in terms of tolerances and I prefer the reverse lockout cable being hidden. The piece that redondoaveb posted (replacement Coolerworx part) is a lot more snug on the IRP compared to the Coolerworx - mine had a bit of play when I took the Coolerworx shifter out.

Photo attached, don't over-tighten those 2.5mm and 3mm grub screws if you decide to take the shifter apart!

Hey Alex, glad to hear you got the replacement lever. Did you end up doing the rubber pad between the shifter base and the trans tunnel when you reinstalled it?

trangalang · 03-21-2023, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

Hey Alex, glad to hear you got the replacement lever. Did you end up doing the rubber pad between the shifter base and the trans tunnel when you reinstalled it?

I did, but I ordered 1/16" instead of 1/8". Didn't notice much of a difference with/without it.

redondoaveb · 03-21-2023, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by trangalang

I did, but I ordered 1/16" instead of 1/8". Didn't notice much of a difference with/without it.

At least it didn't negatively affect it

nismoskyz · 09-24-2023, 08:32 PM

Are you all running upgraded engine+transmission mounts? Sounds like a requirement for a chassis-mounted shifter. The relative motion between chassis and trans has to go somewhere.

I've tested CAE and Coolerworx in parked cars though and the direct engagement feels incredible.

redondoaveb · 09-24-2023, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nismoskyz

Are you all running upgraded engine+transmission mounts? Sounds like a requirement for a chassis-mounted shifter. The relative motion between chassis and trans has to go somewhere.

I've tested CAE and Coolerworx in parked cars though and the direct engagement feels incredible.

Trans mount for sure. I have a great deal on a brand new IRP shifter right now

ZoomZ · 09-25-2023, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

While Raceseng makes a lot of different knobs (I have about 8 of them) and has the M12 x 1.50 adapter, you might check out Shift Solutions. His are about a third the cost of Raceseng, are top quality and makes them with the M12 x 1.50 adapter. Here's a picture of mine.

Which Raceseng knob do you like the most? Not on the IRP but on regular OEM shaft? or give me opinion on both.

zz

redondoaveb · 09-25-2023, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoomZ

Which Raceseng knob do you like the most? Not on the IRP but on regular OEM shaft? or give me opinion on both.

zz

The Stratose would be a good one

NorthStyle · 09-25-2023, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nismoskyz

Are you all running upgraded engine+transmission mounts? Sounds like a requirement for a chassis-mounted shifter. The relative motion between chassis and trans has to go somewhere.

I've tested CAE and Coolerworx in parked cars though and the direct engagement feels incredible.

I had the Z1 PU transmission mount, but I'm running the GKTech solid mount currently. Stock engine mounts, Z1 PU differential mounts and subframe collars.

My shifter is still rattle free.

redondoaveb · 09-25-2023, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NorthStyle

I had the Z1 PU transmission mount, but I'm running the GKTech solid mount currently. Stock engine mounts, Z1 PU differential mounts and subframe collars.

My shifter is still rattle free.

I wish mine would have been. I've got the new Pro version I'll be installing when my new motor goes in

NorthStyle · 09-26-2023, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

I wish mine would have been. I've got the new Pro version I'll be installing when my new motor goes in

New motor, was there something wrong with the old (current) one, or just a need for more speed?

redondoaveb · 09-26-2023, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NorthStyle

New motor, was there something wrong with the old (current) one, or just a need for more speed?

Just a rod through the block

Going forged motor now

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nismoskyz Base Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Wild wild West Posts: 7 Drives: Z34 A54 Rep Power: 6	Are you all running upgraded engine+transmission mounts? Sounds like a requirement for a chassis-mounted shifter. The relative motion between chassis and trans has to go somewhere. I've tested CAE and Coolerworx in parked cars though and the direct engagement feels incredible.