Wax on carbon fiber question. Post your opinions!

Modshack · 12-31-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

I'm assuming the gelcoat can always be sanded down and reapplied at a good body shop.

There is no Gel coat used in CF lay-up (only used in the mold).. You're dealing with Epoxy or Epoxy with a clear-coat on top... Epoxy discoloration (yellowing) cannot be fixed. Surface defects and dulling can, either by polishing as mentioned, or with a clear coat (paint) application..

kenchan · 12-31-2009, 08:51 PM

^^^ what modshack said. Treat it like any other paint on the car. Use high grade polymer if your car is a dd and keep spraying products like Prima Hydro after each wash.

Endgame · 12-30-2009, 06:29 AM

good info guys. thx!!

Spec Jay · 12-30-2009, 07:54 PM

i did it every other wash just because i had a black car.

azn370z · 12-30-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spec Jay

i did it every other wash just because i had a black car.

I wash my car every 6 months. How often do you wash your car?

nogoodname · 12-30-2009, 09:14 PM

Darren at Bay Speed in Brooklyn?? why not ask him what to do

Z eliminator · 12-31-2009, 08:02 AM

My stillen hood on my 2003 is covered in a white haze in different parts of the hood. It looks terrible and no wax or zanio products takes it out. It looks like it is in the clear coat. The only way i get it to look good from a distance is to spray it with WD 40 and wipe it down . it looks good for 2 days (the wet look) then it goes back to normal.
Has anybody got a cure for this problem?

thanks

NXTAZEE · 12-31-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

My stillen hood on my 2003 is covered in a white haze in different parts of the hood. It looks terrible and no wax or zanio products takes it out. It looks like it is in the clear coat. The only way i get it to look good from a distance is to spray it with WD 40 and wipe it down . it looks good for 2 days (the wet look) then it goes back to normal.
Has anybody got a cure for this problem?

thanks

It needs to be polished.

Modshack · 12-31-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator

My stillen hood on my 2003 is covered in a white haze in different parts of the hood. It looks terrible and no wax or zanio products takes it out. It looks like it is in the clear coat. The only way i get it to look good from a distance is to spray it with WD 40 and wipe it down . it looks good for 2 days (the wet look) then it goes back to normal.
Has anybody got a cure for this problem?

thanks

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE

It needs to be polished.

Or clear-coated..

Spec Jay · 12-31-2009, 01:12 PM

white haze is the fading. you need to sand down and get rid of as much of the gel coat as possible then use a high quality clear.

i used to wash my car weekly

just make sure you wipe down the cf stuff often and wax once a month

Endgame · 05-29-2010, 09:14 AM

So.....

In regards to CF care, I read on one of the Audi boards that putting a clear bra on would protect the CF from fading/discoloring. As I am concerned about my CF front lip and paint chips, would that be a better option? Clear bra it and simply wax over the clear bra monthly??? Two birds, one stone?

Modshack · 05-29-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame

So.....

In regards to CF care, I read on one of the Audi boards that putting a clear bra on would protect the CF from fading/discoloring. As I am concerned about my CF front lip and paint chips, would that be a better option? Clear bra it and simply wax over the clear bra monthly??? Two birds, one stone?

Doubt it..unless you can block the heat and UV I'm pretty sure it will eventually yellow. Chevy bought outrageously expensive epoxy additives to keep the ZR1 roof from suffering this fate. I doubt run of the mill CF parts are going to be made with this care due to the expense...

Daishi · 05-29-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Doubt it..unless you can block the heat and UV I'm pretty sure it will eventually yellow. Chevy bought outrageously expensive epoxy additives to keep the ZR1 roof from suffering this fate. I doubt run of the mill CF parts are going to be made with this care due to the expense...

thats why you need high quality pieces like Mines, Amuse.. they fit better and last longer than the cheap brands in the us

phelan · 05-30-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Daishi

thats why you need high quality pieces like Mines, Amuse.. they fit better and last longer than the cheap brands in the us

but will eventually still be subject to fading / yellowing if left out to suffer in the elements. just because it's jdm doesn't mean it'll be immune to the effects of time and nature.

simota1 · 05-30-2010, 09:54 AM

clear coat it

then u can wax it like regular paint... before i installed all my carbon fiber pieces.. i shot clear on them

no worries about getting yellow or fading

well at least for a while.. nothing lasts forever... but i think adding clear is the best way to prolong carbon

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Spec Jay A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bummerton Posts: 1,510 Drives: MtB 09 370z Rep Power: 20	white haze is the fading. you need to sand down and get rid of as much of the gel coat as possible then use a high quality clear. i used to wash my car weekly just make sure you wipe down the cf stuff often and wax once a month __________________ 09 Monterey Blue Global Time Attack Street Class Build Build Thread:Saber! Instagram:@SpecJay

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12-31-2009, 08:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	^^^ what modshack said. Treat it like any other paint on the car. Use high grade polymer if your car is a dd and keep spraying products like Prima Hydro after each wash.

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Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	good info guys. thx!!

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nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	Darren at Bay Speed in Brooklyn?? why not ask him what to do

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Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	So..... In regards to CF care, I read on one of the Audi boards that putting a clear bra on would protect the CF from fading/discoloring. As I am concerned about my CF front lip and paint chips, would that be a better option? Clear bra it and simply wax over the clear bra monthly??? Two birds, one stone?

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