My clearcoat is blistering!!!

chuckd05 · 10-30-2009, 11:29 PM

Ill give my .02 here...

IMO if you put any significant amount of miles on your car.. lets say over 1,000. I do not think you will end up with a new car.

Secondly, I took delivery on my car on a sunny afternoon, excited to get the car i took pictures, while not realizing my bumper color was significantly off in the rear, and certainly not perfect in the front. I first realized the problem while looking at the pictures that night, Upon further inspection on my car the next day it was clearly WAY off in the rear.. I have only asked my service manager about painting the rear bumper, he took pictures sent them to Nissan , and they agreed to paint my rear bumper (only thing i really pushed for) with out question. He agreed 100% that it was not acceptable and was as helpful as he could of been. My dealership does have a body shop located directly behind the dealership and they had me drop off my car on a Monday, and it was done Tuesday..

Nissan will do the right thing for you. You may have to agree to repainting the car though. Yes it sucks but its not the worst thing that could happen, as long as it's warrantied and you are happy with the result. I had my old g35 repainted in the front and rear, once to install newer front bumper and i got rear ended and got me a much needed rear 1/4 re finishing, lol. It came out awesome. The Infiniti paint was not all the greatest. The Red faided and the bumpers definatly didn't hold up too well to rocks/bugs, the repaint came out better than factory without question.

My girlfiends audi paint is without question far superior in quailty to Nissan Paint, it just holds up ridiculously well.. its a 1999 with 154k miles and it's rarely washed. It is Pearl White and when you clean it the paint looks mint on the entire car. The clear is amazingly strong and resistant to chips and scratches.

it is what it is, just get it fixed asap

The paint quality on the 370z seems very good to me, but in my case, my front and rear bumper color was way off and someone had to stamp this car as good to go when it had obvious blemishes.

Before:

After:

clear is as strong as factory in the rear, and the paint matches 99%. I have zero issues with this outcome and it was repainted.

kenchan · 10-31-2009, 01:00 PM

it's also possible the paint got tampered with while in transit or while parked at the dealer/at your house.

ive seen some chemicals that can bubble your paint. in no chemist so dont know
details but you can get paint strippers and stuff pretty easily.

NXTAZEE · 10-31-2009, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

it's also possible the paint got tampered with while in transit or while parked at the dealer/at your house.

ive seen some chemicals that can bubble your paint. in no chemist so dont know
details but you can get paint strippers and stuff pretty easily.

This does happen. I bought a new 2001 Jetta that was damaged during transit and repainted without anyone knowing, including the dealer. The paint started to look funny after a month or so, so I had the dealer look at it and they said they would pay to have it repainted. When the paint shop took off the front bumper it was damaged inside. They told me it was in an accident, but when I asked the dealer to look it up they said, and showed me as well, there was nothing reported. I was told by the paint shop that this happens all the time. Not very comforting is it.

Daishi · 10-31-2009, 02:20 PM

The problem with repainting your car is that it lowers the value of a car.. no matter how good the job is when you go to trade in your car if your even going to trade it in for a while the dealer knows whether the car has been painted or not.

Modshack · 10-31-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Daishi

The problem with repainting your car is that it lowers the value of a car.. no matter how good the job is when you go to trade in your car if your even going to trade it in for a while the dealer knows whether the car has been painted or not.

Which is one reason I got several thousand $$ for "diminished value" because of my accident repair. It would take an anal retentive expert to ever tell my car has had paintwork and he'd have to look really hard. The thing that will eventually hurt my cars value will be the Carfax, not the quality of the repair.

The OP can't get any dimished value of course, but these days it's not unusual at all to have plastic bumpers front or rear repainted from minor damage. It really doesn't diminish the value of the car if done professionally..

flashburn · 10-31-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

The OP can't get any dimished value of course, but these days it's not unusual at all to have plastic bumpers front or rear repainted from minor damage. It really doesn't diminish the value of the car if done professionally..

From what I understand the difficulty between painting the plastic parts and the metal parts is pretty much night and day, so that is why repainting a bumper is no big deal.

Modshack · 11-01-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

From what I understand the difficulty between painting the plastic parts and the metal parts is pretty much night and day, so that is why repainting a bumper is no big deal.

It's no big deal because it's done all the time. Most minor fender benders are front/rear. Plastic takes no more prep than metal...in fact, usually less because it is a new, unblemished part being put on and painted off the car so no extensive masking time needed.. Smooth, Prime, Paint, Install. There is a flex additive added to the paint but that's about it..

flashburn · 11-04-2009, 03:46 PM

Engineers have my pictures that the service manager took when he came over to my house. Nissan Corporate will be calling me back by Friday once they finish reviewing them.

370Zsteve · 01-05-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Engineers have my pictures that the service manager took when he came over to my house. Nissan Corporate will be calling me back by Friday once they finish reviewing them.

Interesting that the OP never updated this thread after all the noise.

j.arnaldo · 01-05-2010, 09:14 AM

Update, please! We wanna hear the last of it. Did the dealer respond properly?!

FuszNissan · 01-05-2010, 09:36 AM

So what happened, did nissan repaint the car?

pulpz · 01-05-2010, 10:58 AM

Reminds me of when I bought a brand new 1989 S-10 Pickup. Aspen Blue, I think. I was 17 yrs old, in high school, and working to pay for it myself. The paint started delaminating from the primer within a few months of delivery. Dealer first accused me of using the "new high pressure" car washes, and refused to do anything. Had to work with GM directly, and best I could get was multiple repaints over the years after the paint periodically pealed. Local newspaper (small town) wouldn't help me out - the didn't have the might to deal with GM, nor wanted to tick off the local dealership because they were an advertiser.

Turns out this was a problem that ultimately plagued GM and Chrysler and was a result of new govt regulation limiting the use of lead in paint, and paint adhesion.

So to this day, I've never bought another new GM car, and certainly never dealt with that dealer again. Not because the problem occurred, but because of how it was handled.

Hopefully flashburn didn't compromise too much. Personally, after first contact with dealer and Nissan with no quick response, I would have contacted my lawyer asap to understand my rights and best way to proceed.

FuszNissan · 01-05-2010, 11:06 AM

You would have to get nissan to determine the paint as manufactures defect.

Paint is not covered under warranty. If it's environmental hazards you are probably SOL, unless you cause enough stink. (lawyer)

pulpz · 01-05-2010, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan

You would have to get nissan to determine the paint as manufactures defect.

Paint is not covered under warranty. If it's environmental hazards you are probably SOL, unless you cause enough stink. (lawyer)

.....yeah, and at this point I would think it becomes an auto insurance claim, assuming it was not blistered at delivery.

kannibul · 01-05-2010, 01:55 PM

Maybe the Nissan Mafia took him out?

10-30-2009, 11:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 21	Ill give my .02 here... IMO if you put any significant amount of miles on your car.. lets say over 1,000. I do not think you will end up with a new car. Secondly, I took delivery on my car on a sunny afternoon, excited to get the car i took pictures, while not realizing my bumper color was significantly off in the rear, and certainly not perfect in the front. I first realized the problem while looking at the pictures that night, Upon further inspection on my car the next day it was clearly WAY off in the rear.. I have only asked my service manager about painting the rear bumper, he took pictures sent them to Nissan , and they agreed to paint my rear bumper (only thing i really pushed for) with out question. He agreed 100% that it was not acceptable and was as helpful as he could of been. My dealership does have a body shop located directly behind the dealership and they had me drop off my car on a Monday, and it was done Tuesday.. Nissan will do the right thing for you. You may have to agree to repainting the car though. Yes it sucks but its not the worst thing that could happen, as long as it's warrantied and you are happy with the result. I had my old g35 repainted in the front and rear, once to install newer front bumper and i got rear ended and got me a much needed rear 1/4 re finishing, lol. It came out awesome. The Infiniti paint was not all the greatest. The Red faided and the bumpers definatly didn't hold up too well to rocks/bugs, the repaint came out better than factory without question. My girlfiends audi paint is without question far superior in quailty to Nissan Paint, it just holds up ridiculously well.. its a 1999 with 154k miles and it's rarely washed. It is Pearl White and when you clean it the paint looks mint on the entire car. The clear is amazingly strong and resistant to chips and scratches. it is what it is, just get it fixed asap The paint quality on the 370z seems very good to me, but in my case, my front and rear bumper color was way off and someone had to stamp this car as good to go when it had obvious blemishes. Before: After: clear is as strong as factory in the rear, and the paint matches 99%. I have zero issues with this outcome and it was repainted. __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-) Last edited by chuckd05; 10-30-2009 at 11:53 PM.

01-05-2010, 09:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 544	So what happened, did nissan repaint the car? __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

01-05-2010, 10:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
pulpz Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 281 Drives: 09 PG 370Z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 17	Reminds me of when I bought a brand new 1989 S-10 Pickup. Aspen Blue, I think. I was 17 yrs old, in high school, and working to pay for it myself. The paint started delaminating from the primer within a few months of delivery. Dealer first accused me of using the "new high pressure" car washes, and refused to do anything. Had to work with GM directly, and best I could get was multiple repaints over the years after the paint periodically pealed. Local newspaper (small town) wouldn't help me out - the didn't have the might to deal with GM, nor wanted to tick off the local dealership because they were an advertiser. Turns out this was a problem that ultimately plagued GM and Chrysler and was a result of new govt regulation limiting the use of lead in paint, and paint adhesion. So to this day, I've never bought another new GM car, and certainly never dealt with that dealer again. Not because the problem occurred, but because of how it was handled. Hopefully flashburn didn't compromise too much. Personally, after first contact with dealer and Nissan with no quick response, I would have contacted my lawyer asap to understand my rights and best way to proceed. __________________ 2016 Cayman GTS 6MT / 2017 Q60 Sport / 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD / 2015 Lexus IS 350 AWD F-Sport (Sold) / 2009 PG 370Z Sport 6MT, (Sold) / 2003 SS 350Z Enthusiast 6MT (Sold)

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FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 544	You would have to get nissan to determine the paint as manufactures defect. Paint is not covered under warranty. If it's environmental hazards you are probably SOL, unless you cause enough stink. (lawyer) __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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