My clearcoat is blistering!!!

NXTAZEE · 10-29-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

My car has new clear coat from the doors forward. A quality job will be better than factory...

If you have a quality job done it can be better than factory.

flashburn · 10-30-2009, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE

If you have a quality job done it can be better than factory.

Would you expect a quality job to be done at the dealer? Or if I do accept that fix, should I insist that a autobody shop do the job?

I wonder why even the service manager told me that if the car needs to be repainted, that the best paint job I am going to get is from the factory. I'm so torn on what to do!

Modshack · 10-30-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Would you expect a quality job to be done at the dealer? Or if I do accept that fix, should I insist that a autobody shop do the job?

I wonder why even the service manager told me that if the car needs to be repainted, that the best paint job I am going to get is from the factory. I'm so torn on what to do!

It's a rare dealer these days who has their own body shop. Don't worry...They won't paint it back in the wash bay. Usually the work is subbed out to a shop they have had good experience with. I would inquire around town as to which is the best shop in your area. In the end it boils down to the person doing the job. Your service manager is not informed or is not dealing with quality shops..

flashburn · 10-30-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

It's a rare dealer these days who has their own body shop. Don't worry...They won't paint it back in the wash bay. Usually the work is subbed out to a shop they have had good experience with. I would inquire around town as to which is the best shop in your area. In the end it boils down to the person doing the job. Your service manager is not informed or is not dealing with quality shops..

That is good to hear, since they have already said that if they have to repaint it, they will make sure it is local to me. Maybe I will settle with the car being repainted after all.

370Zsteve · 10-30-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

I wonder why even the service manager told me that if the car needs to be repainted, that the best paint job I am going to get is from the factory. I'm so torn on what to do!

The window of opportunity is almost closed. Keep hemming and hawing, pretty soon your new car won't be new, and you will have lost any opportunity you had.

Imagine! The factory will do the best job of repainting! Shocking! You mean all the experts here who state that you'll get a better job at an auto-repair shop are wrong?

Modshack · 10-30-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Imagine! The factory will do the best job of repainting! Shocking! You mean all the experts here who state that you'll get a better job at an auto-repair shop are wrong?

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or just doing a JoeD impersonation..

Lots and lots of incidents reported here concerning Poor paint and clearcoat from the factory....... it's been apparent that paint is not Nissan's strongest area..

kannibul · 10-30-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or just doing a JoeD impersonation..

Lots and lots of incidents reported here concerning Poor paint and clearcoat from the factory....... it's been apparent that paint is not Nissan's strongest area..

It's kind of industry wide...thanks to the EPA regulations...and it's easier to adhere to those regulations and make the paint suck for everyone than to retool with more volitle (ie, good) stuff.

370Zsteve · 10-30-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

It's kind of industry wide...thanks to the EPA regulations...and it's easier to adhere to those regulations and make the paint suck for everyone than to retool with more volitle (ie, good) stuff.

nonsense.

370Zsteve · 10-30-2009, 10:28 AM

370Zsteve · 10-30-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or just doing a JoeD impersonation..

Lots and lots of incidents reported here concerning Poor paint and clearcoat from the factory....... it's been apparent that paint is not Nissan's strongest area..

Not easy to do a JoeD impersonation

The poor paint and clearcoat "from the factory" are damaged in transit. Nissan's only problem is it's shipper. There is no way these cars are leaving QC from a Japanese factory in poor condition. Head of QC would commit hari-kiri if that was the case.

Read this, then tell me your local body shop will do a better job. It's apparent that paint (and QC) is one of Nissan's STRONGEST areas.

http://www.autofieldguide.com/articles/119904.html

kannibul · 10-30-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Not easy to do a JoeD impersonation

The poor paint and clearcoat "from the factory" are damaged in transit. Nissan's only problem is it's shipper. There is no way these cars are leaving QC from a Japanese factory in poor condition. Head of QC would commit hari-kiri if that was the case.

Read this, then tell me your local body shop will do a better job. It's apparent that paint (and QC) is one of Nissan's STRONGEST areas.

Feature Article - Flawless (Nearly) - 11/99

So orange peel is caused by transit?

370Zsteve · 10-30-2009, 12:02 PM

Kannibul, you and Modshack are correct. there is no way a multi-billion dollar major auto manufacturer knows how to properly paint a car. In Mod's own words, "My clearcoat is better than the factory job".

case closed. It is obvious to me that Nissan will be going out of business very soon. In fact, it was a colossal waste of money to put in all those clean rooms and robotics. And those daily QC checks, worthless!

At this point I am seriously thinking of going for a German car rather than anything from this crappy company. These Japanese, what do they know about manufacturing and quality control? They know NOTHING!

Modshack · 10-30-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Read this, then tell me your local body shop will do a better job. It's apparent that paint (and QC) is one of Nissan's STRONGEST areas.

Feature Article - Flawless (Nearly) - 11/99

That's all well and good,(considering it was written 10 years ago) but I continue to be surprised by some of the problems reported here that don't have anything to do with transit damage.. Blemishes in the color coat (under the clear). Clear that is easily damaged or is actually flaking off on some cars.. The original paint on my car was actually very good though so it's not a universal issue....Just reported more here than I'm used to seeing on the typical car forum..

As a side note, I pulled up alongside a Black Jeep Liberty the other day and actually had to do a double take. The factory finish looked like the surface of the moon it had so much orange peel. I was actually amazed at how bad it was. Guess it could always be worse!

370Zsteve · 10-30-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

That's all well and good,(considering it was written 10 years ago) but I continue to be surprised by some of the problems reported here that don't have anything to do with transit damage.. Blemishes in the color coat (under the clear). Clear that is easily damaged or is actually flaking off on some cars.. The original paint on my car was actually very good though so it's not a universal issue....Just reported more here than I'm used to seeing on the typical car forum..

As a side note, I pulled up alongside a Black Jeep Liberty the other day and actually had to do a double take. The factory finish looked like the surface of the moon it had so much orange peel. I was actually amazed at how bad it was. Guess it could always be worse!

eh, y'know I've gotta drop out here. I see none of this sh!t with my own eyes, I can't comment at this point except to say I'd be absolutely shocked if any Japanese auto manufacturer let cars out of the factory with these issues. It goes completely against the grain of everything I have ever read or studied about Japanese manufacturing standards, which are considered to be equal to, if not better than, Germany's.

kannibul · 10-30-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

Would you expect a quality job to be done at the dealer? Or if I do accept that fix, should I insist that a autobody shop do the job?

I wonder why even the service manager told me that if the car needs to be repainted, that the best paint job I am going to get is from the factory. I'm so torn on what to do!

Usually they will contract it out.

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370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 44	Kannibul, you and Modshack are correct. there is no way a multi-billion dollar major auto manufacturer knows how to properly paint a car. In Mod's own words, "My clearcoat is better than the factory job". case closed. It is obvious to me that Nissan will be going out of business very soon. In fact, it was a colossal waste of money to put in all those clean rooms and robotics. And those daily QC checks, worthless! At this point I am seriously thinking of going for a German car rather than anything from this crappy company. These Japanese, what do they know about manufacturing and quality control? They know NOTHING! __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

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