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bullitt5897 02-20-2015 11:09 AM

Bolt In Cage
 
Hey Guys and Gals,

I am in talks with the shop that built Wiggins roll cage to make me a Bolt in NASA legal cage. This would also meet all SCCA standards as well.

I would like to thank Wiggins for being a crucial part in making this possible! He is a great guy and has allowed the shop to use his cage for the basis of the build. THANKS BROTHER!

If he doesn't mind I will post up some pics of his to give people a visual of what we are working with.

http://www.the370z.com/members/wiggi...eet-style.jpeg
http://www.the370z.com/members/wiggi...eet-style.html
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To be NASA Legal we will be installing "Bolt In" Door Bars as well.

All mounting plates will be welded and bolted in the floor and the rear shock towers.

all piping will be 1.75" diameter as well.

I will let people know the pricing but from what I have gathered so far this will be fairly affordable!

THANKS AGAIN WIGGINS!

p.s. They will be looking at what will have to be done to make an adapter for the top secret strut tower brace!

JWillis72 02-20-2015 11:40 AM

Very cool!

Wiggins3377 02-20-2015 11:40 AM

Happy to help in any way I can. I've been talking to the shop about reproducing mine for awhile and with spring quickly approaching now is the perfect time. Right now its a 4 point cage, but im looking into making it a 6 point. If anyone is interested in further details send Bullitt or myself a message.

ZeroZeta 02-20-2015 11:42 AM

Very cool bullitt. Keep us posted on the progress.

Also it was great that Wiggins could help out. Be sure to rep the man for being cool (and having a sick car!)

TerribleONE 02-20-2015 11:51 AM

I'd want one...

bullitt5897 02-20-2015 12:02 PM

Wiggins and I are looking to get these in a reproduce able package. I am looking to have them in both my cars... And I drive on the Street.

In street mode there wont be door bars but on the track they will bolt right in.

JARblue 02-20-2015 12:04 PM

:tup:

Wiggins3377 02-20-2015 01:53 PM

terribleone would you be interested in a 4 or 6 point?

zefaulter 02-20-2015 01:59 PM

Good stuff! What is install cost usually for these?

JWillis72 02-20-2015 02:00 PM

I'm in if they build it! I would like to see the 6 point before I say if I want a 4 or 6,most likely the 6 point.

bullitt5897 02-20-2015 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zefaulter (Post 3117859)
Good stuff! What is install cost usually for these?

You will only need 4-6 plates welded in and then you can install it yourself.

The plates will be 3/16" thick according to the NASA standards. and the rear towers if bolted will have to be done so in a sandwich manner and I think you have to use grade 5 (5/16 sized) bolts if I remember correctly. The floor plates I believe can be just welded in (1 behind each seat and 1 in each floorboard)...

dP3NGU1N 02-20-2015 02:33 PM

I'd be very interested in a 4 point to run a harness. 6 point is a bit too hard core for me at the moment. Also interested in the price.

DR_ 02-20-2015 02:35 PM

A diagonal bar is needed to be legal in SCCA or NASA for club racing.

bullitt5897 02-20-2015 02:53 PM

It will have a Diagonal bar

Rusty 02-20-2015 10:58 PM

6 point with the front bolted in. I'm in. :tup: I want to be able to unbolt the front bars for the street.

DPE G 02-21-2015 07:35 AM

Interested. But would it interfere with the seats in the 15? They already touch the roof, and I have to sit all the way back as is, can't afford to loose any more legroom.

Wiggins3377 02-21-2015 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPE G (Post 3118429)
Interested. But would it interfere with the seats in the 15? They already touch the roof, and I have to sit all the way back as is, can't afford to loose any more legroom.


I've had my brides ever since I've had the cage. That being said, I can slide the seat all the way back on the Bride sliders. I'm sure that wasn't too helpful. Just my experience.


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Kenwoodturbo 02-21-2015 10:49 AM

Wiggins, is the shop local, curious who it is. Pm me. I'veused 2 different shops in Cincinnati area to build sfi cert cages for Nhra. But was curious who you guys were using for these.

dP3NGU1N 02-21-2015 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 3117903)
A diagonal bar is needed to be legal in SCCA or NASA for club racing.

Do these not count as diagonal bars or do they need to be located somewhere else?

http://www.the370z.com/members/wiggi...eet-style.jpeg

BGTV8 02-21-2015 02:42 PM

The diagonal under discussion is in the main hoop. This diagonal is in the rear brace legs

RyanWest 02-21-2015 02:43 PM

Wonder how much this would be to the masses??

Id be interested in buying one :)

cdoxp800 02-21-2015 02:49 PM

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AntiVenom 02-21-2015 02:51 PM

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Wiggins3377 02-21-2015 03:54 PM

Now this is subject to change as I haven't talked to Endurance about pricing since last October, but at that point in time they had come up with two pricing options.

1) raw un-powdercoated 4 point bolt in cage - $900 plus S&H
2) Powdercoated 4 point bolt in cage - $1300 plus S&H, buyer to supply powdercoat of their choosing.

I'm trying to get an idea of pricing to turn my 4 point into a 6 point. Once we hammer out those details pricing on 6 point will be posted.

dkznyc 02-21-2015 04:13 PM

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kenchan 02-21-2015 04:17 PM

op- wow that looks great :tup:

RyanWest 02-21-2015 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggins3377 (Post 3118649)
Now this is subject to change as I haven't talked to Endurance about pricing since last October, but at that point in time they had come up with two pricing options.

1) raw un-powdercoated 4 point bolt in cage - $900 plus S&H
2) Powdercoated 4 point bolt in cage - $1300 plus S&H, buyer to supply powdercoat of their choosing.

I'm trying to get an idea of pricing to turn my 4 point into a 6 point. Once we hammer out those details pricing on 6 point will be posted.

Do you have contact information to this shop?

Wiggins3377 02-21-2015 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanWest (Post 3118674)
Do you have contact information to this shop?


Endurance Motorsports in Florence KY


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PheeNoIVI 02-25-2015 01:23 PM

Is this type of cage street legal?

binary0x01 02-25-2015 01:29 PM

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tibal 02-25-2015 01:45 PM

Definitely Interested in a 4pt Version. Sickness!!

chops 02-25-2015 02:13 PM

remember folks, unless you're wearing a helmet whenever you're driving your car, you dont want to go and run a roll cage. running one on the streets as a daily driver can kill you in an accident even if the entire cage is properly cushioned with foam..etc. you need a full 5 point harness, and proper seats before you go buying a roll cage!

bullitt5897 02-25-2015 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PheeNoIVI (Post 3122020)
Is this type of cage street legal?

Yes it is street legal.

nissan_fan 02-25-2015 02:50 PM

In for final price on these beauties

tturbo370z 02-25-2015 02:55 PM

I have the exact same seats, harnesses and amuse bar as wiggins :tup: I would be interested in one as thats the only reason I have the amsur support bar was to screw u harnesses into it and look bad ***. Being able to keep that piece of shinny and make the car street/track drivable I like. Most likely be interested in a 4 point having not seen a 6 yet. I do recall this process some tie back about producing these and I'm glad it's not gonna die :icon18:

Wiggins3377 02-25-2015 07:37 PM

I had a conversation with Mike at Endurance Motorsports today to discuss some logistics and I know Billet did as well so he can chime in from his discussion. Here's a brief summary. Mike expressed some concern related to those of you looking to install this cage and use it in any sort of "class" racing event, reason being is there are apparently (I can neither confirm or object to this) specific rule sets for cage building when racing in certain classes. When I went to Endurance last spring, the cage was built for show and street use. The cage is built with high quality materials and is more than rigid enough for my purposes, however Mike expressed that if someone wanted to use this cage for class racing he would much rather have the car and build a cage specific to that car.

So that being said, who's looking for a cage for street and show use? Yes, the cage is rigid enough to use with a harness so this option can replace other options of the same variety on the market for just a fraction more in cost.

I would also assume the cost of a raw, un-powdercoated cage will be about $900 plus shipping.

I'm planning on taking my car to Endurance towards the end of March for some other work so, depending on interest these could be ready as soon as late April.

Im not asking for any sort of payment. Right now I just want to gauge interest at a more serious level so here starts a list. Lets see how many we have on board.

1) wiggins3377
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)

tturbo370z 02-25-2015 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggins3377 (Post 3122334)
I had a conversation with Mike at Endurance Motorsports today to discuss some logistics and I know Billet did as well so he can chime in from his discussion. Here's a brief summary. Mike expressed some concern related to those of you looking to install this cage and use it in any sort of "class" racing event, reason being is there are apparently (I can neither confirm or object to this) specific rule sets for cage building when racing in certain classes. When I went to Endurance last spring, the cage was built for show and street use. The cage is built with high quality materials and is more than rigid enough for my purposes, however Mike expressed that if someone wanted to use this cage for class racing he would much rather have the car and build a cage specific to that car.

So that being said, who's looking for a cage for street and show use? Yes, the cage is rigid enough to use with a harness so this option can replace other options of the same variety on the market for just a fraction more in cost.

I would also assume the cost of a raw, un-powdercoated cage will be about $900 plus shipping.

I'm planning on taking my car to Endurance towards the end of March for some other work so, depending on interest these could be ready as soon as late April.

Im not asking for any sort of payment. Right now I just want to gauge interest at a more serious level so here starts a list. Lets see how many we have on board.

1) wiggins3377
2) tturbo370z
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)

Count me as interested. Curious to what makes it class legal depending on scca Or strip

bullitt5897 02-25-2015 09:25 PM

We were looking at NASA standards... I have a question out to nasa in respects to the bolt in aspect of the cage. Nasa is more strict than scca.

tturbo370z 02-25-2015 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 3122414)
We were looking at NASA standards... I have a question out to nasa in respects to the bolt in aspect of the cage. Nasa is more strict than scca.

Being I only use my as street at the moment lol when it's put together, I would prefer the nasa rules then. I believe that's what most guys in my area are doing. Thanks mike! Keep me posted brotha

Rusty 02-25-2015 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Wiggins3377 View Post
I had a conversation with Mike at Endurance Motorsports today to discuss some logistics and I know Billet did as well so he can chime in from his discussion. Here's a brief summary. Mike expressed some concern related to those of you looking to install this cage and use it in any sort of "class" racing event, reason being is there are apparently (I can neither confirm or object to this) specific rule sets for cage building when racing in certain classes. When I went to Endurance last spring, the cage was built for show and street use. The cage is built with high quality materials and is more than rigid enough for my purposes, however Mike expressed that if someone wanted to use this cage for class racing he would much rather have the car and build a cage specific to that car.

So that being said, who's looking for a cage for street and show use? Yes, the cage is rigid enough to use with a harness so this option can replace other options of the same variety on the market for just a fraction more in cost.

I would also assume the cost of a raw, un-powdercoated cage will be about $900 plus shipping.

I'm planning on taking my car to Endurance towards the end of March for some other work so, depending on interest these could be ready as soon as late April.

Im not asking for any sort of payment. Right now I just want to gauge interest at a more serious level so here starts a list. Lets see how many we have on board.

1) wiggins3377
2) tturbo370z
3) Rusty
4)
5)
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)

I do trackdays. The track I go to doesn't have any rules for a cage. But in the future. I'm planning on going to other tracks. And I don't know if they have any rules for cages. So I would like to be safe and not sorry if it was built to someone's spec's.


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