N/A build

bullitt5897 · 02-15-2015, 10:35 AM

He also had a custom intake manifold

synolimit · 02-15-2015, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

1slow370z did it. shoot him a pm, but he also had a custom manifold created to fit the TB's

So I'm right. So spend less on two throttle bodies but spent $3000 on a custom manifold.

Elmo370z · 02-15-2015, 10:59 AM

He wanted to be different. Noone else offers better than his one off. I would do if i had the bank roll to spend countless amounts of money. His car did make more power than any N/A Z in the world and a set-up that noone has dared to try and he succeeded.

synolimit · 02-15-2015, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

He wanted to be different. Noone else offers better than his one off. I would do if i had the bank roll to spend countless amounts of money. His car did make more power than any N/A Z in the world and a set-up that noone has dared to try and he succeeded.

Yeah but look at the amount spent vs what was achieved. If I'm not mistaken is was 371hp but using STD and possibly 5th gear. 4th and SAE were talking around 350hp. I'm not sure I'm down to do into the teens $$,$$$ for 20-30hp. Poly windows and drive train weigh could do the same performance wise.

Chuck33079 · 02-15-2015, 12:06 PM

Not to mention more than a few of those hp came from switching to a dry sump. That alone will rape your wallet.

synolimit · 02-15-2015, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Not to mention more than a few of those hp came from switching to a dry sump. That alone will rape your wallet.

Because of the increased rpm or am I missing something?

Chuck33079 · 02-15-2015, 12:45 PM

That and you're not dragging the crank through the oil.

Elmo370z · 02-15-2015, 07:27 PM

Yea but he stated the cam doesn't really start producing until after 8,000 rpms. Also he wasn't done with building the car up. Plus this is the first of it's kind. I'm sure if more companies follow his set-up they could fine tune for more horsepower. Member when the first TT KIT. Came out, you were lucky to break 500whp.

Elmo370z · 02-15-2015, 07:34 PM

Another note if he wanted 600 or 700 horsepower he definitely had the money for a TT KIT.

SlowZ · 02-17-2015, 02:32 AM

I'm totally aware of the cost needed to do something like I mentioned lol. I'm not trying to argue that. I need to have something done to my lower plenum and TB because I could benefit from having 3 inch charge pipes.

Elmo370z · 02-18-2015, 11:01 PM

He also had velocity stack in the 3 inch charge pipes, i wonder if that gave any benefit in the power band.

synolimit · 02-19-2015, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

That and you're not dragging the crank through the oil.

Really think it's that much oil? When the motors off I know it's soaked obviously but while running I thought the pan was pretty empty. Empty enough the dip stick barley reads anything. Plus with a 5w oil while running that's pretty thin whatever does touch the crank.

DR_ · 02-19-2015, 10:08 AM

The oil level when off doesn't go high enough to touch the crank so when on it surely doesn't.

Chuck33079 · 02-19-2015, 10:17 AM

To clarify, the crank is not submerged in the oil. There are losses due to oil splashing around into the rotating assembly.

One quick link - Technical Description - Dry Sump Systems

Rusty · 02-19-2015, 03:41 PM

The loss is called windage. You got oil whipping around with the crank as it is spinning. The oil puts a drag on the crank. When you eliminate the oil whipping. You pick up hp. Couple of ways you can do it. Use a deep sump oil pan, windage tray, deep sump oil pan with a windage tray, or a dry sump. Listed from the least to the most efficient.

02-15-2015, 10:35 AM	#61 (permalink)
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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Not to mention more than a few of those hp came from switching to a dry sump. That alone will rape your wallet. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

02-15-2015, 12:45 PM	#67 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	That and you're not dragging the crank through the oil. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

02-19-2015, 10:17 AM	#74 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	To clarify, the crank is not submerged in the oil. There are losses due to oil splashing around into the rotating assembly. One quick link - Technical Description - Dry Sump Systems __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,490 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	The loss is called windage. You got oil whipping around with the crank as it is spinning. The oil puts a drag on the crank. When you eliminate the oil whipping. You pick up hp. Couple of ways you can do it. Use a deep sump oil pan, windage tray, deep sump oil pan with a windage tray, or a dry sump. Listed from the least to the most efficient. BGTV8, Chuck33079 and Elmo370z like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html Last edited by Rusty; 02-19-2015 at 03:46 PM.

02-15-2015, 10:59 AM	#63 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,727 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295379	He wanted to be different. Noone else offers better than his one off. I would do if i had the bank roll to spend countless amounts of money. His car did make more power than any N/A Z in the world and a set-up that noone has dared to try and he succeeded.

02-15-2015, 07:27 PM	#68 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,727 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295379	Yea but he stated the cam doesn't really start producing until after 8,000 rpms. Also he wasn't done with building the car up. Plus this is the first of it's kind. I'm sure if more companies follow his set-up they could fine tune for more horsepower. Member when the first TT KIT. Came out, you were lucky to break 500whp.

02-15-2015, 07:34 PM	#69 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,727 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295379	Another note if he wanted 600 or 700 horsepower he definitely had the money for a TT KIT.

02-17-2015, 02:32 AM	#70 (permalink)
SlowZ Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: So cal Posts: 371 Drives: Z Rep Power: 12	I'm totally aware of the cost needed to do something like I mentioned lol. I'm not trying to argue that. I need to have something done to my lower plenum and TB because I could benefit from having 3 inch charge pipes.

02-18-2015, 11:01 PM	#71 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,727 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295379	He also had velocity stack in the 3 inch charge pipes, i wonder if that gave any benefit in the power band.

02-19-2015, 10:08 AM	#73 (permalink)
DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 18	The oil level when off doesn't go high enough to touch the crank so when on it surely doesn't.

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