Transmission won't shift if . . . .

ktmmike · 02-18-2014, 08:19 PM

Help please. Has anyone experienced this:

I have a new 2014 370Z with automatic transmission that will go through ALL the gears just fine if:

1. I put the shift lever into D and just go, OR

2. I put the shift lever into the manual gate (left track), and use the paddle shifters to go through all the gears.

BUT if I put the shift lever into manual, and then try to shift to the next gear (up or down), USING THE SHIFT LEVER, the transmission position indicator light jumps from the gear number to D,
and transmission goes through the REST of the gears just fine in D, even though the shift lever is still in the manual track.

The car has less than 800 miles on it so it's under warranty.
There's obviously nothing wrong with the transmission itself.
So if this is caused by something simple, I'd rather correct it myself if possible.

Have any of you experienced or corrected this problem before???

Is there a thread on this problem somewhere???

Rockhound · 02-18-2014, 08:54 PM

I haven't experienced anything like this. I know there's a TSB on the 7AT from 2013 (13-001A) - it includes reprogramming the transmission control module, but centers around a specific error code (P0710).

2013 z service bulletin 13-001a

My '13 7AT had an unrelated ECU error code last fall, and I had the dealer apply this TSB while I was there. I haven't experienced any issues with manual mode as you describe, though. Your '14 might have this transmission update installed from the factory, though; probably worth a dealer visit.

ktmmike · 02-19-2014, 06:16 AM

. . . and another possibly related question:

On the console, about 1/4 inch forward of the P for park, is some sort of a little round keyhole or receiver for a special tool or something.

1. What is it for?

2. Is it on models previous to 2014 as well?

I can't find it in the owner's manual.

DEpointfive0 · 02-19-2014, 06:19 AM

That is for unlocking your car out of park if let's say you need to tow the car and you lost the keys

DEpointfive0 · 02-19-2014, 06:26 AM

No need to make 2 threads

ktmmike · 02-19-2014, 06:28 AM

That is for unlocking your car out of park if let's say you need to tow the car and you lost the keys[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="Blue"][FONT="Arial Black"]Thanx DE.50

Should that key or tool be in the car somewhere I hope???

SouthArk370Z · 02-19-2014, 06:32 AM

It sounds like the switches in the shifter are bad or misadjusted. If you want to try to tackle it yourself, download the FSM (link in my sig). Personally, I'd let the dealer handle it under warranty.

Datsun240Z71 · 02-19-2014, 06:32 AM

Read the owners manual regarding issue #1. The transmission will revert to DRIVE while in manual mode after a short period of time if it is not shifted manually with the handle. This is normal operation.

The " little round keyhole" comes off so the shifter mechanism can be shifted out of gear without a key in the event the car needs to be towed or if the mechanism becomes "jammed". A small screwdrver or similar tool is pushed down through the opening to release the shifter so it can be moved.

All is well.

G37Sam · 02-19-2014, 06:42 AM

A tip for the future as well, please don't type in that font style if you want people to read your posts and help you out. I couldn't get myself to read through the whole thing.

ktmmike · 02-19-2014, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

It sounds like the switches in the shifter are bad or misadjusted. If you want to try to tackle it yourself, download the FSM (link in my sig). Personally, I'd let the dealer handle it under warranty.

Thanx S Ark

ktmmike · 02-19-2014, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

No need to make 2 threads

Sorry. New member. I wasn't quite sure where the question belonged since it is drivetrain and warranty related.

Which choice would have been better please?

ktmmike · 02-19-2014, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Datsun240Z71

Read the owners manual regarding issue #1. The transmission will revert to DRIVE while in manual mode after a short period of time if it is not shifted manually with the handle. This is normal operation.

The " little round keyhole" comes off so the shifter mechanism can be shifted out of gear without a key in the event the car needs to be towed or if the mechanism becomes "jammed". A small screwdrver or similar tool is pushed down through the opening to release the shifter so it can be moved.

All is well.

Thanx Datsun,
But it WAS shifted manually with the handle, and the light INSTANTLY jumps back to D the moment you shift, no short period of time involved (the light SHOULD go to the next number the moment you shift).

What you are describing happens just as it is supposed to, when using the PADDLES.

Datsun240Z71 · 02-19-2014, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktmmike

Thanx Datsun,
But it WAS shifted manually with the handle, and the light INSTANTLY jumps back to D the moment you shift, no short period of time involved (the light SHOULD go to the next number the moment you shift).

What you are describing happens just as it is supposed to, when using the PADDLES.

You're correct. I guess I had it backwards. Sorry! Too early in the morning.

critical · 02-19-2014, 08:50 AM

never had that happen. that's funny.

SouthArk370Z · 02-19-2014, 08:59 AM

As G37Sam has pointed out, you might get more help if your posts were more readable. The small, blue text can be difficult to read, especially on a smaller monitor (or one of less-than-stellar performance). Stick with the default font/color or use something dark and not small.

02-18-2014, 08:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
ktmmike Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NC/TN Mountains Posts: 36 Drives: '14 370Z Sport Coupe Rep Power: 11	Transmission won't shift if . . . . Help please. Has anyone experienced this: I have a new 2014 370Z with automatic transmission that will go through ALL the gears just fine if: 1. I put the shift lever into D and just go, OR 2. I put the shift lever into the manual gate (left track), and use the paddle shifters to go through all the gears. BUT if I put the shift lever into manual, and then try to shift to the next gear (up or down), USING THE SHIFT LEVER, the transmission position indicator light jumps from the gear number to D, and transmission goes through the REST of the gears just fine in D, even though the shift lever is still in the manual track. The car has less than 800 miles on it so it's under warranty. There's obviously nothing wrong with the transmission itself. So if this is caused by something simple, I'd rather correct it myself if possible. Have any of you experienced or corrected this problem before??? Is there a thread on this problem somewhere??? __________________ 3 KTM SUPERMOTOS & a 2014 370Z Last edited by ktmmike; 02-19-2014 at 07:38 PM.

02-19-2014, 06:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
ktmmike Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NC/TN Mountains Posts: 36 Drives: '14 370Z Sport Coupe Rep Power: 11	. . . and another possibly related question: On the console, about 1/4 inch forward of the P for park, is some sort of a little round keyhole or receiver for a special tool or something. 1. What is it for? 2. Is it on models previous to 2014 as well? I can't find it in the owner's manual. __________________ 3 KTM SUPERMOTOS & a 2014 370Z Last edited by ktmmike; 02-19-2014 at 07:47 PM.

02-19-2014, 06:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	That is for unlocking your car out of park if let's say you need to tow the car and you lost the keys __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

02-19-2014, 06:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
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02-19-2014, 06:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
ktmmike Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NC/TN Mountains Posts: 36 Drives: '14 370Z Sport Coupe Rep Power: 11	That is for unlocking your car out of park if let's say you need to tow the car and you lost the keys[/QUOTE] [COLOR="Blue"][FONT="Arial Black"]Thanx DE.50 Should that key or tool be in the car somewhere I hope??? __________________ 3 KTM SUPERMOTOS & a 2014 370Z Last edited by ktmmike; 02-19-2014 at 07:40 PM.

02-18-2014, 08:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rockhound Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 86 Drives: '13 Z Touring Rep Power: 13	I haven't experienced anything like this. I know there's a TSB on the 7AT from 2013 (13-001A) - it includes reprogramming the transmission control module, but centers around a specific error code (P0710). 2013 z service bulletin 13-001a My '13 7AT had an unrelated ECU error code last fall, and I had the dealer apply this TSB while I was there. I haven't experienced any issues with manual mode as you describe, though. Your '14 might have this transmission update installed from the factory, though; probably worth a dealer visit.

02-19-2014, 06:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324197	It sounds like the switches in the shifter are bad or misadjusted. If you want to try to tackle it yourself, download the FSM (link in my sig). Personally, I'd let the dealer handle it under warranty. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

02-19-2014, 06:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
Datsun240Z71 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Nashville Posts: 177 Drives: '71 240Z Rep Power: 13	Read the owners manual regarding issue #1. The transmission will revert to DRIVE while in manual mode after a short period of time if it is not shifted manually with the handle. This is normal operation. The " little round keyhole" comes off so the shifter mechanism can be shifted out of gear without a key in the event the car needs to be towed or if the mechanism becomes "jammed". A small screwdrver or similar tool is pushed down through the opening to release the shifter so it can be moved. All is well. __________________ Randy in Nashville Middle Tennnessee Z Club 1971 240Z

02-19-2014, 06:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
G37Sam A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dubai, UAE Posts: 1,507 Drives: RB'd G37 Rep Power: 20	A tip for the future as well, please don't type in that font style if you want people to read your posts and help you out. I couldn't get myself to read through the whole thing. __________________ '14 Viper GTS '08 RB'd G37S - Sold

02-19-2014, 08:50 AM	#14 (permalink)
critical A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Washington Posts: 1,252 Drives: 09' 370z 7AT Rep Power: 15	never had that happen. that's funny. __________________ Quaife w/ gears \|Stillen Gen 3\|SOLD FI Resonated Test Pipes \|SOLD FI 18'' \| 25row Stillen Race \| Progress 35mm/25mm sways \| Swifts/Koni\|Volk G25's\| Stoptech SS lines\|\|SPL Front/Rear Arms\|

02-19-2014, 08:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324197	As G37Sam has pointed out, you might get more help if your posts were more readable. The small, blue text can be difficult to read, especially on a smaller monitor (or one of less-than-stellar performance). Stick with the default font/color or use something dark and not small. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

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