Sanwich Plate Help

SS_Firehawk · 08-10-2013, 12:23 AM

So I sold my oil cooler to a gentleman on the forums, and everything checked out G2G except one thing. I don't know enough about sandwich plates to give an expert opinion, so I thought I'd toss it here. The metal around the ball bearing looks a bit damaged. To me it looks very minor, but I'm not sure what it's purpose is. I don't see any other sandwich plate that has that lip around the ball bearing. I linked a few attachments below to help, but it's hard for me to see without it being in my hands. Also linked the rest of the system just to show it's in very good condition. The attached images below, the first is a pic before it was cleaned, the second is what the buyer sent me to look at.

synolimit · 08-10-2013, 12:44 AM

That's broke yo. And a piece is missing. I hope the filter caught it.

SS_Firehawk · 08-10-2013, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

That's broke yo. And a piece is missing. I hope the filter caught it.

Thanks for the input, are you able to elaborate a bit on what's missing or what it's supposed to look like?

I saw pics of the same sandwich plate here, but I can't see any details.
AE Performance Oil Cooler 370Z

Another but again minimal detail
370ZTUNE.com
AE Performance Oil Cooler Z34 Nissan 370Z 2009+

synolimit · 08-10-2013, 01:01 AM

The link pics looks like a plates missing. But what's the other side look like? In this pic you can see the bearing and a smooth hole, yours isnt smooth and the metals cracked and missing.

synolimit · 08-10-2013, 01:04 AM

Yes you're only seeing one side. One side has a plate, the other is the bearing. I'm sure your plates there but the bearing and sandwich are f'ed. That's a poor design. Who makes it? I'd throw up a red flag for all owners as that could kill a motor! Looks like ill be buying the Mitsmoto one if that's the one off racers warehouse site.

SS_Firehawk · 08-10-2013, 01:10 AM

Well if he decides not to keep it, I'm just gonna upgrade to a thermostatic unit and -10AN lines & fittings, and sell it for a premium. At this point, the headache far outweighs any money made. Only people in fire hot climates and track rats are interested anyways.

SS_Firehawk · 08-10-2013, 01:17 AM

Also unsure who manufactures the sandwich plate. Only thing I know is that it's billet aluminum and supposed to "last"

synolimit · 08-10-2013, 01:37 AM

It isn't hot here but I do plan to run 2 24 row coolers. 36 row still over heats on the track and I just can't swing $700 for a 72 row. Fingers crossed, 48 is enough. I know tru cool makes a 48, but because its so tall I think 50% is blocked by the bumper. 2 24's should see all air like yours does. GL with the whole thing there.

SS_Firehawk · 08-10-2013, 01:45 AM

FML... Can't even spell sandwich. /facepalm

SouthArk370Z · 08-10-2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

FML... Can't even spell sandwich. /facepalm

Anyone that couldn't figure it out probably wouldn't be much help.

Chuck33079 · 08-10-2013, 09:21 AM

So the first pic is how it was when it was shipped to him, and the last ones were what he says he got? Is it the same sandwich plate?

SS_Firehawk · 08-10-2013, 10:20 AM

The first attached picture was the sandwich plate before GTM cleaned it up. It was just another angle, so I used it. The second is the one he sent me. All the linked images are what GTM sent me after they cleaned it up for me.

Chuck33079 · 08-10-2013, 11:20 AM

Ok. That makes more sense.

SS_Firehawk · 08-10-2013, 11:56 AM

Looks like he's gonna upgrade to a Mocal or Mishimoto thermostatic sandwich plate and keep it (smart). I really wish I knew WTF is going on with it though.

synolimit · 08-10-2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Looks like he's gonna upgrade to a Mocal or Mishimoto thermostatic sandwich plate and keep it (smart). I really wish I knew WTF is going on with it though.

Looks like it wore out. That bearing obviously has a spring for pressure, why idk, but it moves and over time steel 1, aluminium 0.

08-10-2013, 12:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3388	That's broke yo. And a piece is missing. I hope the filter caught it. Felix 808 likes this. __________________ 13 370z-

08-10-2013, 01:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3388	The link pics looks like a plates missing. But what's the other side look like? In this pic you can see the bearing and a smooth hole, yours isnt smooth and the metals cracked and missing. __________________ 13 370z-

08-10-2013, 01:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3388	Yes you're only seeing one side. One side has a plate, the other is the bearing. I'm sure your plates there but the bearing and sandwich are f'ed. That's a poor design. Who makes it? I'd throw up a red flag for all owners as that could kill a motor! Looks like ill be buying the Mitsmoto one if that's the one off racers warehouse site. __________________ 13 370z- Last edited by synolimit; 08-10-2013 at 01:11 AM.

08-10-2013, 01:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	Well if he decides not to keep it, I'm just gonna upgrade to a thermostatic unit and -10AN lines & fittings, and sell it for a premium. At this point, the headache far outweighs any money made. Only people in fire hot climates and track rats are interested anyways. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

08-10-2013, 01:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	Also unsure who manufactures the sandwich plate. Only thing I know is that it's billet aluminum and supposed to "last" __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

08-10-2013, 01:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3388	It isn't hot here but I do plan to run 2 24 row coolers. 36 row still over heats on the track and I just can't swing $700 for a 72 row. Fingers crossed, 48 is enough. I know tru cool makes a 48, but because its so tall I think 50% is blocked by the bumper. 2 24's should see all air like yours does. GL with the whole thing there. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 13 370z-

08-10-2013, 01:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	FML... Can't even spell sandwich. /facepalm DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

08-10-2013, 09:21 AM	#11 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	So the first pic is how it was when it was shipped to him, and the last ones were what he says he got? Is it the same sandwich plate? __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-10-2013, 10:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	The first attached picture was the sandwich plate before GTM cleaned it up. It was just another angle, so I used it. The second is the one he sent me. All the linked images are what GTM sent me after they cleaned it up for me. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

08-10-2013, 11:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Ok. That makes more sense. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-10-2013, 11:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	Looks like he's gonna upgrade to a Mocal or Mishimoto thermostatic sandwich plate and keep it (smart). I really wish I knew WTF is going on with it though. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

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