Nissan Motorsports Oil Cooler vs. Stillen Oil Cooler

christian370z · 11-09-2010, 05:22 PM

Definately go for the 25 row cooler; there would be nothing worse than discovering you could use the larger Setrab core AFTER you already installed the 19 row version.

Endgame · 11-09-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

Definately go for the 25 row cooler; there would be nothing worse than discovering you could use the larger Setrab core AFTER you already installed the 19 row version.

agreed...

spearfish25 · 11-09-2010, 09:07 PM

25 is just right for a street/track combo. On the street, I've never seen over 220F with my 25 row Setrab. On the track, max temp was 240F on a hot day and it drops rapidly when you stop pushing the car.

Endgame · 11-09-2010, 11:07 PM

and that is about where I would want them...

christian370z · 11-09-2010, 11:14 PM

One of the most amazing things about running that sized cooler is definately how quickly the temperatures drop once you relax for a few minutes at speed. I have seen it go from 200 to under 180 degrees in less than 5 minutes, but I have yet to see anything over 200 degrees, and that was only sitting in traffic. Once the car is moving, the thing stays very cool.

Dustin@Z1 · 11-11-2010, 10:36 AM

+1 for 25 Row especially if you are on a budget.

If you were doing planning on doing alot of agressive driving and extensive road racing. I might suggest the 34 Row. But a 25 should work just fine given your intended use.

christian370z · 11-11-2010, 01:18 PM

I can only imagine how well the 34 row must cool, I can't even get my temps to go above 200 degrees pushing the car as hard I could in 80 degree ambient temperature with my 25r cooler.

ChrisSlicks · 11-11-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

I can only imagine how well the 34 row must cool, I can't even get my temps to go above 200 degrees pushing the car as hard I could in 80 degree ambient temperature with my 25r cooler.

It's all relative. I have the 72 row series 1 setrab which is the same surface area as the 34 row Setrab. Driving flat out on the track on a hot day I can still get the temp up to 260 and even beyond, but as soon as I back off a little it does drop. On the street it won't go above 200.

lastblueprint · 11-13-2010, 10:54 PM

Can someone maybe do a DIY oil change including an oil cooler? I would like to completely remove all the oil and replace it with the new stuff every time I change it. What would you guys recommend? I have the Nissan Oil Cooler, well getting it install this week. So just trying to get a heads up. Also If I remove all of the oil will I have to add the 6 quarts or stick to the 5 quarts as normal?

lastblueprint · 11-13-2010, 11:00 PM

Also should I worry about Nissan installing my Nissan Oil Cooler? This is my situation, Nissan bought mine, will install it and will not affect my warranty. I guess I’m a little paranoid.

spearfish25 · 11-13-2010, 11:08 PM

If Nissan is installing it and guaranteeing your warranty, you're fine.

As for an oil change, it will make no difference in terms of car care and engine longevity if you empty the cooler as well or not. If you choose to empty the cooler, you just unscrew one of the cooler hoses at the sandwich adapter by the oil filter during your oil change. If you do that, you'll add the extra quart when you replace the oil. If you don't unscrew a hose (empty the cooler), you'll just add the 5 quarts. Make sure you measure using the dipstick as '5' and '6' are ballparks.

lastblueprint · 11-13-2010, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

If Nissan is installing it and guaranteeing your warranty, you're fine.

As for an oil change, it will make no difference in terms of car care and engine longevity if you empty the cooler as well or not. If you choose to empty the cooler, you just unscrew one of the cooler hoses at the sandwich adapter by the oil filter during your oil change. If you do that, you'll add the extra quart when you replace the oil. If you don't unscrew a hose (empty the cooler), you'll just add the 5 quarts. Make sure you measure using the dipstick as '5' and '6' are ballparks.

Wow, Hey man, thanks for the info. That really helps. Now I can start taking my car to the track at Button Willow. This past week when I went to Sema, on the way there my car went on safe mode, that heat killed me. I’m glad my cooler is going to be installed this week.

BOLIO 671 · 11-14-2010, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ZForce

Also from GTM's website.

GTM Motorsports*::*ENGINE EXTERNALS*::*Oil Coolers*::*GTM HD OIL COOLER FOR VQ

Price $380.

Took a look at GTM's HD oil cooler and. It appears rather small...doesn't specify how many rows it is...has the dimensions listed but can't figure out how many rows their oil cooler is....Anyone with some insight please chime in

ChrisSlicks · 11-14-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

Took a look at GTM's HD oil cooler and. It appears rather small...doesn't specify how many rows it is...has the dimensions listed but can't figure out how many rows their oil cooler is....Anyone with some insight please chime in

That is the 19 row Setrab core.

ZForce · 11-14-2010, 11:45 AM

So the 19 row Stillen is out of the picture for agressive street and light track and the 25 row would be better suited for that type of driving. The 34 row would be for all out track driving or if you can budget the higher cost it would also be suited for agressive street and track.

Was it ever concluded as to which oil cooler? Stillen, Nissan or GTM?

11-09-2010, 05:22 PM	#91 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 431	Definately go for the 25 row cooler; there would be nothing worse than discovering you could use the larger Setrab core AFTER you already installed the 19 row version. __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

11-09-2010, 09:07 PM	#93 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	25 is just right for a street/track combo. On the street, I've never seen over 220F with my 25 row Setrab. On the track, max temp was 240F on a hot day and it drops rapidly when you stop pushing the car. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

11-09-2010, 11:14 PM	#95 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 431	One of the most amazing things about running that sized cooler is definately how quickly the temperatures drop once you relax for a few minutes at speed. I have seen it go from 200 to under 180 degrees in less than 5 minutes, but I have yet to see anything over 200 degrees, and that was only sitting in traffic. Once the car is moving, the thing stays very cool. __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

11-11-2010, 01:18 PM	#97 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 431	I can only imagine how well the 34 row must cool, I can't even get my temps to go above 200 degrees pushing the car as hard I could in 80 degree ambient temperature with my 25r cooler. __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

11-13-2010, 10:54 PM	#99 (permalink)
lastblueprint Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Moreno valley Posts: 273 Drives: 370z 40th ann. Rep Power: 15	Can someone maybe do a DIY oil change including an oil cooler? I would like to completely remove all the oil and replace it with the new stuff every time I change it. What would you guys recommend? I have the Nissan Oil Cooler, well getting it install this week. So just trying to get a heads up. Also If I remove all of the oil will I have to add the 6 quarts or stick to the 5 quarts as normal? __________________ 2010 370z 40th Anniversary

11-09-2010, 11:07 PM	#94 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 223	and that is about where I would want them...

11-11-2010, 10:36 AM	#96 (permalink)
Dustin@Z1 The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NLA Posts: 1,313 Drives: NLA Rep Power: 17	+1 for 25 Row especially if you are on a budget. If you were doing planning on doing alot of agressive driving and extensive road racing. I might suggest the 34 Row. But a 25 should work just fine given your intended use.

11-13-2010, 11:00 PM	#100 (permalink)
lastblueprint Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Moreno valley Posts: 273 Drives: 370z 40th ann. Rep Power: 15	Also should I worry about Nissan installing my Nissan Oil Cooler? This is my situation, Nissan bought mine, will install it and will not affect my warranty. I guess I’m a little paranoid. __________________ 2010 370z 40th Anniversary

11-13-2010, 11:08 PM	#101 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	If Nissan is installing it and guaranteeing your warranty, you're fine. As for an oil change, it will make no difference in terms of car care and engine longevity if you empty the cooler as well or not. If you choose to empty the cooler, you just unscrew one of the cooler hoses at the sandwich adapter by the oil filter during your oil change. If you do that, you'll add the extra quart when you replace the oil. If you don't unscrew a hose (empty the cooler), you'll just add the 5 quarts. Make sure you measure using the dipstick as '5' and '6' are ballparks. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

11-14-2010, 11:45 AM	#105 (permalink)
ZForce A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,359 Drives: 09 370Z Tour + Sport Rep Power: 20	So the 19 row Stillen is out of the picture for agressive street and light track and the 25 row would be better suited for that type of driving. The 34 row would be for all out track driving or if you can budget the higher cost it would also be suited for agressive street and track. Was it ever concluded as to which oil cooler? Stillen, Nissan or GTM?

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