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SPOHN 06-03-2013 03:01 PM

Coolest Oil Catch Can
 
I received a email from AAM regurding there new oil catch can for the GTR. This is perhaps the coolest catch can I've seen. Single can instead of two. Yes it's expensive but serves a great purpose and the filtration system is sweet.

I called AAM Friday about this and they do plan to make them for the 370 and 350. The only difference is the mounting bracket. I think I'm going to buy.

AAM Competition - Nissan GT-R, 370Z Turbo Performance Specialists

DEpointfive0 06-03-2013 03:56 PM

For $500, no thanks, I'll make my own

SPOHN 06-03-2013 04:01 PM

You can make one smilier externally wise but not internally. But it does give me some good ideas besides the silly two can setups I see.

DEpointfive0 06-03-2013 04:08 PM

I think it's over engineered to be honest. A lot ghettoer and jenky setups work perfectly fine, so why overdo it?

That's my thinking

Red__Zed 06-03-2013 04:10 PM

I love how "CAD designed" is listed as if it's some sort of feature.

olddudesrule 06-03-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2346181)
I think it's over engineered to be honest. A lot ghettoer and jenky setups work perfectly fine, so why overdo it?

That's my thinking

I would agree. It's a common add-on in the Corvette community, especially on LS7's. I paid $80 for mine. Simply set up with a drain at the bottom. $500 is waaaayyy too much unless it's turning the oil in my intake into Maker's Mark.

DEpointfive0 06-03-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by olddudesrule (Post 2346252)
I would agree. It's a common add-on in the Corvette community, especially on LS7's. I paid $80 for mine. Simply set up with a drain at the bottom. $500 is waaaayyy too much unless it's turning the oil in my intake into Maker's Mark.

It better turn my oil into Louis XIII for $500, and then I wouldn't drive and just run my oil through it

G37sHKS 06-03-2013 05:11 PM

Saw this on FB, im going to buy it

GaleForce 06-03-2013 05:22 PM

I'm interested. Did AAM give an ETA for the 370z specific one?

SPOHN 06-03-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2346333)
I'm interested. Did AAM give an ETA for the 370z specific one?

His working on the bracket to mount this week. He told me to call him

GaleForce 06-07-2013 04:18 PM

Any updates?

SPOHN 06-07-2013 04:24 PM

Sorry. I'm so busy with moving into a new house. Ill call them.

GaleForce 06-07-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2353120)
Sorry. I'm so busy with moving into a new house. Ill call them.

Ok, but don't blame me if you don't get all your stuff moved in. :p

synolimit 06-07-2013 04:38 PM

No way that keeps oil back. The baffling system doesn't look good enough. It's just a plate with holes drilled in it. Air will still bring oil with it up through the holes and into the manifold. A better design is needed.

XwChriswX 06-07-2013 04:45 PM

It looks very pretty = Expensive.


For an N/A Z, what are the realistic benefits of this to justify buying one? I've seen them on junkier cars (civics, RSXs, integras, fords :p ), but what are the real benefits vs not having one? (Like 99% of cars are OEM)

Mandingo 06-07-2013 04:59 PM

That can looks like it should work pretty well actually. I have this one Elite Engineering Catch Can. Recommended in Wstar's write up. It catches about a tablespoon of sludgy oil every 1500 miles. It has some stainless steel media stuffed inside the cap to condense the oil out.

I thought a catch can on a N/A Z was a silly idea.. then one day I took the stock manifold off and saw oil literally pour out of it!

SPOHN 06-07-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2353150)
No way that keeps oil back. The baffling system doesn't look good enough. It's just a plate with holes drilled in it. Air will still bring oil with it up through the holes and into the manifold. A better design is needed.

Seriously! Not sure you understand the principle. Oil weighs more than air. So gravity allows the oil to fall to the bottom portion of the can while the intake side pulls back in threw the upper chambers. Yes, it's that simple.

Even if you had a simple catch can with the in/ out hoses a inch apart/ across from each other the oil would still fall to the bottom. Simple physics.

XwChriswX 06-07-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2353199)
Seriously! Not sure you understand the principle. Oil weighs more than air. So gravity allows the oil to fall to the bottom portion of the can while the intake side pulls back in threw the upper chambers. Yes, it's that simple.

Even if you had a simple catch can with the in/ out hoses a inch apart/ across from each other the oil would still fall to the bottom. Simple physics.

I think having some direction arrows on the picture depicting which are the IN/OUT hoses might help aleviate this misconception.


I'm assuming when routing the hoses you place the OUT hose higher than the IN hose, so Air freely flows, but as you say Gravity keeps the Oil in the bottom?

SPOHN 06-07-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2353214)
I think having some direction arrows on the picture depicting which are the IN/OUT hoses might help aleviate this misconception.


I'm assuming when routing the hoses you place the OUT hose higher than the IN hose, so Air freely flows, but as you say Gravity keeps the Oil in the bottom?

There's a pic somewhere on there site. The bottom hoses are the in hoses and and the out hose are on top. But reguardless with the in/ out hoses where directly across from each other it would still work properly. I used to run a small air compressor filter ( filter was gutted) type on my 350 and it worked flawless. If you know what I'm talking about.

XwChriswX 06-07-2013 05:50 PM

I'd be curious to see where they plan on mounting this in the engine bay... It's crammed enough as it is, foregoing the use of tubing for your TT kit. That's also gonna be an interesting Hose routing job.

SPOHN 06-07-2013 05:53 PM

I'm going to do mine in front center of the motor. I've moved the rad overflow and also have bought a smaller version.

XwChriswX 06-07-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2353283)
I'm going to do mine in front center of the motor. I've moved the rad overflow and also have bought a smaller version.

Looking forward to pics. :tup:

Where did you move the Rad overflow to? I wanna get this plastic obstruction out myself. It's nothing but an eyesore... :shakes head:

cdoxp800 06-07-2013 05:54 PM

Save some Money. Look at this one

Mishimoto Baffled Oil Catch Can, by Mishimoto

XwChriswX 06-07-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cdoxp800 (Post 2353288)
Save some Money. Look at this one

Mishimoto Baffled Oil Catch Can, by Mishimoto

Looks pretty too... I dig the Red/Black.

diddy535 06-07-2013 06:03 PM

Anyone know of a can that might not be as "cool" but have a better price? I know wstar recommends a corvette one but my concern is with the bracket that comes with it, it'd be hard to mount in our cars (he did a battery relo and put the catch can in the battery box).

XwChriswX 06-07-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by diddy535 (Post 2353297)
Anyone know of a can that might not be as "cool" but have a better price? I know wstar recommends a corvette one but my concern is with the bracket that comes with it, it'd be hard to mount in our cars (he did a battery relo and put the catch can in the battery box).

Ebay prolly sells the cans/hoses cheap. And you can fab up your own bracket from materials purchased at Home Depot/Lowes.

diddy535 06-07-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2353302)
Ebay prolly sells the cans/hoses cheap. And you can fab up your own bracket from materials purchased at Home Depot/Lowes.

Thanks!

synolimit 06-07-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2353199)
Seriously! Not sure you understand the principle. Oil weighs more than air. So gravity allows the oil to fall to the bottom portion of the can while the intake side pulls back in threw the upper chambers. Yes, it's that simple.

Even if you had a simple catch can with the in/ out hoses a inch apart/ across from each other the oil would still fall to the bottom. Simple physics.

I think I do since I make my own. Only baffle system that has every worked for me (SS media, two catch cans where one feeds into the other before the manifold, higher exit vs much lower inlets, etc) is a proper baffle system!!!

My exit hoses are so bone dry its scary. I don't think you understand its oil vapor, not oil. And the vacuum the motor produces under WOT is enough to suck the nips off a chic's chest. A normal can will have the vapor oil exit with the air. I've seen it a million times trying to get it to stop.

This works! Thanks Crawford for the idea! :tup:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...imit/craw3.jpg

SPOHN 06-07-2013 10:37 PM

You make great points. But oil vapors are still oil and its clear from the build up that is drained out when you clean it. Plus there is flat out oil from blow-by.

synolimit 06-07-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2353669)
You make great points. But oil vapors are still oil and its clear from the build up that is drained out when you clean it. Plus there is flat out oil from blow-by.

I don't disagree at all. I'm just saying if you want 100% clear air something betters needed. If you're ok with 70-80-90% filtration go with it. I think I saw you say you had something before like off a air hose? Well my air hose after still has residue in it. So it does work...just not 100%.

Mandingo 06-08-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddy535 (Post 2353297)
Anyone know of a can that might not be as "cool" but have a better price? I know wstar recommends a corvette one but my concern is with the bracket that comes with it, it'd be hard to mount in our cars (he did a battery relo and put the catch can in the battery box).

It's really easy to make your own bracket. You'd have to no matter which can you get. Even if you bought this $500 AAM one.

Edit:
My Elite Engineering can is mounted behind the engine on the passenger side.

diddy535 06-08-2013 03:31 PM

Gotcha sounds like that is what I'll be doing.

SPOHN 06-10-2013 10:12 AM

I just ordered the Mishimoto can. $243 at Summit Racing.

synolimit 06-11-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2356237)
I just ordered the Mishimoto can. $243 at Summit Racing.

Wow I need to get on making these and becoming a vender. I have $12 in parts for each one. I'd make a killing at $100-200 because I'd sell so many for all cars.

SPOHN 06-11-2013 08:00 PM

And the quality and R&D of a Mishimoto is equal to your setup?

sixpax 06-11-2013 08:07 PM

Saikou Michi

Best internal functional design in my humble opinion. Read why before flaming.

diddy535 06-11-2013 09:32 PM

I would have bought theirs but I emailed them and got no response.

synolimit 06-11-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2358619)
And the quality of a Mishimoto is equal to your setup?

custom 1 off GP exhaust on my zx6r...i think i do alright :ughdance::tup:

do you want function or a pretty can with allen screws with a clear plastic tube? a pop bottle works well too and the whole thing is see through hahaha

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps4dab63b2.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps4d26d939.jpg

synolimit 06-11-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sixpax (Post 2358635)
Saikou Michi

Best internal functional design in my humble opinion. Read why before flaming.

am i missing something? i just read they work. doesnt say how or why which means anyone can say anything. my AOS makes 300 added HP, doesnt mean it does you know?

IMWEZL 06-11-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2353120)
Sorry. I'm so busy with moving into a new house. Ill call them.

Off topic but I just realized you're the same Chadbee from srtforums...hell I think we hung out once or twice out at Varsity during an SRT4 meet...god damn I'm old!


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