Overheating issue with 2013 370z?

XwChriswX · 05-31-2013, 03:36 PM

Up in MD/PA, I can't get mine to budge over 180* without seriously pushing.

I almost feel like my cooler is too much, but I got it when I was in Phoenix, and I plan on TT later on. So figured, it will suffice.

latintrpt · 05-31-2013, 03:36 PM

so does anyone in general experience sluggishness when driving after a while?

03g35coupe6mt · 05-31-2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by latintrpt

so does anyone in general experience sluggishness when driving after a while?

Yes !! even after putting a 25 row cooler on if i drive thru town my oil temp used to be 220 now around 200 by the oil temp gauge and anything over 190 and it does feel sluggish . since i wasnt ready to get an uprev tune i followed what kennys370z did and hooked up a switch so i can turn the damn cooling fans on whenever the hell i want and they run on high not half speed and now have almost virtually no lag in acceleration . finally i can drive in town without coming home disgusted at how slow it is when its hot felt like my car was having an epileptic fit before when i press the gas was so frigging annoying . if you have been tuned already call them up and have them do the fan control mod .

Chuck33079 · 05-31-2013, 03:37 PM

You might want to block off part of the cooler for now. Too cold is as bad as too hot.

XwChriswX · 05-31-2013, 03:37 PM

Tell me about it... I forgot to put it on before winter.

Yeah, 160* was a hard drive.

dAvenue · 05-31-2013, 04:51 PM

My experience post-oil cooler is the oil temp approaches 200 if either: a) heat soak induced city driving, which feels sluggish or b) driving like it's stolen. Other than that, the needle floats between 180 - 195 or lower when cruising on the highway.

However, pre-oil cooler my experience was basically the same as the OP. Oil temps were regularly between 215 - 230 or higher if driving even slightly hard. And I could forget about canyon runs; the temps would skyrocket to the 240 - 260 territory.

tjlazer · 05-31-2013, 05:26 PM

I have the same issue on mine. When i hit 220 I enter limp mode and it bogs down. Known issue. I guess a oil cooler and tune with fan control mod will help.

martin82 · 05-31-2013, 05:39 PM

on a 2012-13 adding the sandwich plate it gets a bit tight in space with the hoses but you can install np. Sometimes the stock cooler or sandwich plate will rotate a bit when doing oil changes and will need to tighten it up...

XwChriswX · 05-31-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by martin82

on a 2012-13 adding the sandwich plate it gets a bit tight in space with the hoses but you can install np. Sometimes the stock cooler or sandwich plate will rotate a bit when doing oil changes and will need to tighten it up...

I'm guessing no one has tried tackling removing the Stock Oil/Water cooler, and just installing an Oil/Air cooler?

olddudesrule · 06-01-2013, 11:23 AM

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I'm guessing no one has tried tackling removing the Stock Oil/Water cooler, and just installing an Oil/Air cooler?

I thought about it for a few minutes when I first got under there and realized how tight things were gonna be. I considered just running a short piece of coolant hose to loop one end to the other (input to output), but it just seemed like a bigger mess than just adding the new plate on top. In the end, if it doesn't leak (and hasn't so far...), I'm happy with the outcome. Temps dropped to 185-195 (city and highway) at 95-97 degrees outside temp, when I was operating at 210-220+ for the same drives.

synolimit · 05-31-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by martin82

on a 2012-13 adding the sandwich plate it gets a bit tight in space with the hoses but you can install np. Sometimes the stock cooler or sandwich plate will rotate a bit when doing oil changes and will need to tighten it up...

Would tapping into the stock lines work to keep room free'd up at the filter? Just Tee off the pre and post factory lines and run to a second core? This was my original idea since hose, two tees and a core cost next to nothing.

Pardon the crude pic

gomer_110 · 05-31-2013, 10:29 PM

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Would tapping into the stock lines work to keep room free'd up at the filter? Just Tee off the pre and post factory lines and run to a second core? This was my original idea since hose, two tees and a core cost next to nothing.

Pardon the crude pic

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The lines that you are referring to are coolant lines. The factory cooler is an oil to coolant, oil cooler.

chrischhorn · 05-31-2013, 10:35 PM

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The lines that you are referring to are coolant lines. The factory cooler is an oil to coolant, oil cooler.

Correct, the factory oil cooler is nothing but a sandwhich plate with coolant that is about 20-30 degrees cooler then normal oil temps. There is actually no extra lines or an actual cooler such as the aftermarket ones. Its just that plate that has coolant running through it at a slightly lower then oil temp.

synolimit · 05-31-2013, 10:39 PM

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The lines that you are referring to are coolant lines. The factory cooler is an oil to coolant, oil cooler.

Just saw that now thanks. Wow, ill be pulling all this off and making my own.

gomer_110 · 05-31-2013, 11:07 PM

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Just saw that now thanks. Wow, ill be pulling all this off and making my own.

If your really daring you could get do a custom coolant to oil cooler. A few of us have considered it but never taken the leap.

Laminova Oil-Water heat exchanger

05-31-2013, 03:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
XwChriswX WFLYIDNNE Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In The Fastlane Posts: 50,648 Drives: 02 GDB WRX Rep Power: 453	Up in MD/PA, I can't get mine to budge over 180* without seriously pushing. I almost feel like my cooler is too much, but I got it when I was in Phoenix, and I plan on TT later on. So figured, it will suffice. __________________ Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall! R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14

05-31-2013, 03:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	You might want to block off part of the cooler for now. Too cold is as bad as too hot. m4a1mustang likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

05-31-2013, 03:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
XwChriswX WFLYIDNNE Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In The Fastlane Posts: 50,648 Drives: 02 GDB WRX Rep Power: 453	Tell me about it... I forgot to put it on before winter. Yeah, 160* was a hard drive. __________________ Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall! R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14

05-31-2013, 04:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
dAvenue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: present Posts: 1,971 Drives: angry Rep Power: 49	My experience post-oil cooler is the oil temp approaches 200 if either: a) heat soak induced city driving, which feels sluggish or b) driving like it's stolen. Other than that, the needle floats between 180 - 195 or lower when cruising on the highway. However, pre-oil cooler my experience was basically the same as the OP. Oil temps were regularly between 215 - 230 or higher if driving even slightly hard. And I could forget about canyon runs; the temps would skyrocket to the 240 - 260 territory. __________________ Takeda \| Stillen \| Z1 \| Invidia \| Mishimoto \| CSF \| Megan Racing \| Koni \| Eibach \| SPC \| Forgestar \| Seibon

05-31-2013, 05:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
tjlazer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tacoma Age: 53 Posts: 2,496 Drives: Z34, R35 Rep Power: 20	I have the same issue on mine. When i hit 220 I enter limp mode and it bogs down. Known issue. I guess a oil cooler and tune with fan control mod will help. __________________ 2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV

05-31-2013, 03:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
latintrpt Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Chicago Posts: 14 Drives: 10 Audi A5 6spd Rep Power: 13	so does anyone in general experience sluggishness when driving after a while?

05-31-2013, 05:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
martin82 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: los angeles Posts: 2,636 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 20	on a 2012-13 adding the sandwich plate it gets a bit tight in space with the hoses but you can install np. Sometimes the stock cooler or sandwich plate will rotate a bit when doing oil changes and will need to tighten it up...

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