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Does anybody else think the 370 manual tranny sucks!

It's notchy as hell, but I don't get how 1st gear is a joke. You can hit 40mph in 1st gear...65 mph in second. What rpm's are you shifting at?

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Old 01-17-2013, 11:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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It's notchy as hell, but I don't get how 1st gear is a joke. You can hit 40mph in 1st gear...65 mph in second. What rpm's are you shifting at?
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It's notchy as hell, but I don't get how 1st gear is a joke. You can hit 40mph in 1st gear...65 mph in second. What rpm's are you shifting at?
The hell? is the one in my 2009 different than yours? I can only go like 20 feet before NEEDing to shift into 2nd. Most of the time if Im on level ground im faced down on a hill I just leave it in second, so Im using 1st for a split second just to get moving.
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The hell? is the one in my 2009 different than yours? I can only go like 20 feet before NEEDing to shift into 2nd. Most of the time if Im on level ground im faced down on a hill I just leave it in second, so Im using 1st for a split second just to get moving.
Heck I can travel 2,000 feet at 5 mph. The purpose of 1st gear, has and always will be just to get the car moving. My car as well as all 370's, NEED to shift at a max 7,500 rpm's...which means 40 mph, irrelevant of distance travelled.
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Heck I can travel 2,000 feet at 5 mph. The purpose of 1st gear, has and always will be just to get the car moving. My car as well as all 370's, NEED to shift at a max 7,500 rpm's...which means 40 mph, irrelevant of distance travelled.
So you shift your car at 7500 rpm redline every time you shift?
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No problems here. I use MT-85 and other than clunky 2nd, every other gear shifts nice and smooth. Maybe some of you guys just need to learn how to drive manual?
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So you shift your car at 7500 rpm redline every time you shift?
Hellz yeah!!

.....but only if I don't feel like shifting in 20 feet

This transmission isn't perfect. It's noisy, clunky........sounds like a cement mixer with rocks or possibly a midget with a hammer. It's far from refined, but it's really not as bad as you make it seem. I think what throws a lot of people off is that they're use to listening to the engine speeds when shifting. The problem with that is the VQ37 is sounds like a can of bees at high rpm's. It's really harsh to say the least once you get past 4,000 rpm's. Coming from an RX-8 that hit 9k rpm's without the drama... the Z took some getting use to. I guess my point is, there are plenty of things to complain about... but complaining about having to shift gear in a car with manual transmission seems kind of silly.
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Heck I can travel 2,000 feet at 5 mph. The purpose of 1st gear, has and always will be just to get the car moving. My car as well as all 370's, NEED to shift at a max 7,500 rpm's...which means 40 mph, irrelevant of distance travelled.
I didnt mean it so literal to the distance traveled. I can creep in 1st at like 5mph for miles if I'd like. I was presenting it in more a stop light on main road senario, where you would be traveling from 0 - 40mph in a hopefully good amount of time.

It was just pointing how very short lived 1st gear is in our cars, and like I said I will barely use it unless Im at an incline or at a total dead stop.

But as my cousin put it when he drove my car..
Me: Ya, the first gear is very short you have to immediatley throw it into 2nd and give it a bit of gas during engagement.
Cousin: cause it's not refined luxury coupe. it's a sportscar. it just wants to go, no compromise. it's not made for going slow around starbucks.

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I know what he is saying. I have had mine for 6 months and of course with any car there is a learning curve but I find that my initial 1st to 2nd is terrible I have tried many different techniques but to keep up with the automatic mini vans next to me from a dead stop at a traffic light I have to go pretty hard in first, engine noise drawing attention from everyone around and shift into 2nd pretty quickly. I don't think it should be that intense to just keep up with "Slow" cars. 2nd gear and beyond the car is Incredible and rockets just that initial start or short distance that can suck. I have noticed it is easier and smoother for me when not in sport mode if shifting is done well.

Maybe a few of us did just get unlucky and our tranny's are not as good as those of you who say that yours great. I am thinking I will go test drive one at a dealership and see if I notice a difference. For a long time I wondered if it was just me but I have read too many similar experiences.

I also picked up a nismo shift knob and surprisingly it makes a world of difference over the oem knob getting into gears smoothly.

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The hell? is the one in my 2009 different than yours? I can only go like 20 feet before NEEDing to shift into 2nd. Most of the time if Im on level ground im faced down on a hill I just leave it in second, so Im using 1st for a split second just to get moving.
Me too! My 1st gear is soooooo short it seems just wrong. I have learned to live with it tho. I just get down from 2nd to 3rd.
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They are not built the same. I had the original, had it replaced, and then replaced again a month later. All 3 felt different. The last one felt so much tighter, has quite a bit more gear whine, but feels like it was built right.
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Hello fellow Z peeps, I have owned my Nismo 370Z for about 5 months now and overall I like the car but in my opinion the manual tranny falls short.
I been a mechanic my whole life and have owned motorcycles and manual shift vehicles and without a doubt this transmission is the worst I have ever encountered. The car has such great potential but the transmission feels sub par. 1st gear is a joke. On take off the car feels like you can only go twenty feet before shifting. It is really easy to miss shifts and the gear box sounds like a box of rocks and the tranny feels as though the design is inadequate to provide proper power transfer.
I wish the car would of come with a automatic because shifting manualy hardly seems to be worth the effort. Kinda bumed really because I do like the car but this manual is a disapointment.
Does anybody honestly like this transmission?
I am right there with you.............I kept test driving the 6mts hoping I would change my mind as I really wanted a Nismo, the last time I spent well over 2 hours driving it. I kept thinking what great shifting trannies my B210, 280ZX and Nissan truck had and wondered why they made such a crappy MT for the Z? I went with the auto and I am actually very glad I did.
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If I comment more than this vague comment I'll get flamed for being a AT enthusiast (on this car at least)
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The beauty of MT is you shift when you damn well please, your fault for shifting at 20MPH and complaining about it.
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