Is it normal

WShade · 07-07-2009, 10:31 PM

My Subie burned 1qt per 1K and it had perfect compression its entire life. My Accord did not burn a drop, ever. And, my G hardly burns any at all either so I am hoping the same from my Z.

6SPD_FTW · 07-08-2009, 02:33 PM

While we're on the topic of checking oil and such, I have a question.

Has anyone here ever observed some black residue coming off the dipstick whenever you pull the dipstick out and wipe it off the 1st time prior to checking the oil??

Everytime I check the oil, I wipe the dipstick off and noticed black residue (looks like powdered metal to me) on the dipstick. Its not carbon deposits and its not oil...it looks to me like metal stuck to the dipstick. If our dipsticks are magnetized, then that's fine...it's just iron particles and is normal. But if I go a longer span of time between checking the oil, there's a larger buildup of that stuff on the dipstick. Black/dark gray in color, it is. I have 7800 miles and the last oil change was at 4000mi. Engine runs great and I get 28mpg with conservative driving. No bizarre noises or anything else abnormal.

I'm getting ready to switch over to synthetic oil. I ran the factory oil until 1500mi, then ran Mobil 5000 until 4000 mi, and currently have Castrol GTX in there. I think I'm gonna switch to Castrol Syntec 0W-30 in a few hundred miles.

Either way....tell me what yall think bout that.

Late,
Trav

370Z Purist · 07-10-2009, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6SPD_FTW

While we're on the topic of checking oil and such, I have a question.

Has anyone here ever observed some black residue coming off the dipstick whenever you pull the dipstick out and wipe it off the 1st time prior to checking the oil??

Everytime I check the oil, I wipe the dipstick off and noticed black residue (looks like powdered metal to me) on the dipstick. Its not carbon deposits and its not oil...it looks to me like metal stuck to the dipstick. If our dipsticks are magnetized, then that's fine...it's just iron particles and is normal. But if I go a longer span of time between checking the oil, there's a larger buildup of that stuff on the dipstick. Black/dark gray in color, it is. I have 7800 miles and the last oil change was at 4000mi. Engine runs great and I get 28mpg with conservative driving. No bizarre noises or anything else abnormal.

I'm getting ready to switch over to synthetic oil. I ran the factory oil until 1500mi, then ran Mobil 5000 until 4000 mi, and currently have Castrol GTX in there. I think I'm gonna switch to Castrol Syntec 0W-30 in a few hundred miles.

Either way....tell me what yall think bout that.

Late,
Trav

That seems kinda weird... I've had clean oil. When did this start?

need4speed · 07-10-2009, 03:05 PM

Most of you with oil concerns obviously are either in your 1st "TRUE" Sports cars
Or You don't realize that oil consumption differs from your standard 6000rpm redline cars
And/or concerned about how many oil changes u may have to perform meaning cost???.
My advice is switch to synthetic n don't mod your cars till u understand your vehicle fully.
The VQ is not rushed. Its been in production since 2007 and had been in testing since 2005.
In 4 months it will be in its 3rd model year.
VQ engines are high performance motors occasionally retrofitted into normal cars. Not vice vera like many other cars but it is far from a lemon. As the engine breaks in you will see all the quirks disappear.
Like all 1st year cars you will have to see the dealer for an issue here and there. But I guarantee it will mainly be in the computer where problems may lie. Not in the cars parts.
Maintenance takes slightly more effort and certain aspects of the car will vary as this car is technogically unique to other sports cars. There are quirks, and sounds that are unique only to this engine.
Lastly... even Ferrari has 1st year issues. Every company has 1st year quirks.

tbonesteak · 07-11-2009, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by need4speed

Most of you with oil concerns obviously are either in your 1st "TRUE" Sports cars
Or You don't realize that oil consumption differs from your standard 6000rpm redline cars
And/or concerned about how many oil changes u may have to perform meaning cost???.
My advice is switch to synthetic n don't mod your cars till u understand your vehicle fully.
The VQ is not rushed. Its been in production since 2007 and had been in testing since 2005.
In 4 months it will be in its 3rd model year.
VQ engines are high performance motors occasionally retrofitted into normal cars. Not vice vera like many other cars but it is far from a lemon. As the engine breaks in you will see all the quirks disappear.
Like all 1st year cars you will have to see the dealer for an issue here and there. But I guarantee it will mainly be in the computer where problems may lie. Not in the cars parts.
Maintenance takes slightly more effort and certain aspects of the car will vary as this car is technogically unique to other sports cars. There are quirks, and sounds that are unique only to this engine.
Lastly... even Ferrari has 1st year issues. Every company has 1st year quirks.

so because the g sedan has the vq37vhr, it makes it a TRUE SPORTS CAR? Also, consumption has nothing to do with "standard 6000rpm cars". I have a car that revs to 8500 and doesn't burn a single drop. Also if they did so much r&d on the vhr, y does it run so hot? I'm sure the engineers sat down and said "oh gee golly wiz i think we should specifically engineer this engine to run hot for some good apparent reason but we just don't know what it is yet!" Do you also "guarantee" that the problem is in the computer and is not attributable to the physical component design of the car? Dude you make some valid points but geesh, it's so misleading.

370Z Purist · 07-10-2009, 03:47 PM

Don't flame.

EDIT:
You don't have any proof that these are "people's first true sports cars." Also, cars can consume oil regardless of their age or type or use.
Even if cars are different from the Z, you don't even own a Z yourself. Because of this, anything you say is mostly moot, and completely inapplicable to you. The Altima doesn't even run the same engine as the 370.

bigaudiofanat · 07-11-2009, 07:55 AM

As stated in a previous post about hondas. I use to own a 1996 Honda civic that finally died at 329,000 miles on it. Never burned oil at all now we have 3 civics and a element in the drive and none of them burn oil as well. I understand what you are saying some burn more than others BUT should a new car with that low miles even if it is being broke in?

ZKindaGuy · 07-11-2009, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

As stated in a previous post about hondas. I use to own a 1996 Honda civic that finally died at 329,000 miles on it. Never burned oil at all now we have 3 civics and a element in the drive and none of them burn oil as well. I understand what you are saying some burn more than others BUT should a new car with that low miles even if it is being broke in?

So when someone informs you that IT IS NORMAL why the hell don't you take their word for it and leave it at that? Not all things in life have to have a Rosetta Stone associated to them so that a simple concept as this can be diciphered and understood.

370Z Purist · 07-11-2009, 02:41 PM

Okay this is starting to turn into a personal feud. We need to stop this.

I suppose a lock would come soon too. We're not here to make personal attacks.

antennahead · 07-11-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z Purist

Okay this is starting to turn into a personal feud. We need to stop this.

I suppose a lock would come soon too. We're not here to make personal attacks.

Don't worry, I am sorry I lowered myself to his level, but I hate to see people here attacking our members. Won't happen again. Now I doubt that he can let it go, I am sure he will call someone a whinner again.

John

370Z Purist · 07-11-2009, 02:46 PM

What's worse is that he doesn't own a 370Z...

People that own 370Zs need to be separated from the pack of wannabes. Sure, maybe you know more about cars, but you can't possibly understand when you don't own it or drive it!

antennahead · 07-11-2009, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z Purist

What's worse is that he doesn't own a 370Z...

People that own 370Zs need to be separated from the pack of wannabes. Sure, maybe you know more about cars, but you can't possibly understand when you don't own it or drive it!

I think the "other" Z site sent him here to stir things up

John

370Z Purist · 07-11-2009, 02:53 PM

Everyone is gonna like the car they own more than cars they can only dream of or not own... in most cases, anyway.

07-07-2009, 10:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
WShade Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 765 Drives: 09 370Z T/S/N Rep Power: 188	My Subie burned 1qt per 1K and it had perfect compression its entire life. My Accord did not burn a drop, ever. And, my G hardly burns any at all either so I am hoping the same from my Z. __________________ Q50S Q60 RS400

07-10-2009, 03:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 20	Don't flame. EDIT: You don't have any proof that these are "people's first true sports cars." Also, cars can consume oil regardless of their age or type or use. Even if cars are different from the Z, you don't even own a Z yourself. Because of this, anything you say is mostly moot, and completely inapplicable to you. The Altima doesn't even run the same engine as the 370. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow." Last edited by 370Z Purist; 07-10-2009 at 04:07 PM.

07-11-2009, 07:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	As stated in a previous post about hondas. I use to own a 1996 Honda civic that finally died at 329,000 miles on it. Never burned oil at all now we have 3 civics and a element in the drive and none of them burn oil as well. I understand what you are saying some burn more than others BUT should a new car with that low miles even if it is being broke in? __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

07-11-2009, 02:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 20	Okay this is starting to turn into a personal feud. We need to stop this. I suppose a lock would come soon too. We're not here to make personal attacks. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

07-11-2009, 02:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 20	What's worse is that he doesn't own a 370Z... People that own 370Zs need to be separated from the pack of wannabes. Sure, maybe you know more about cars, but you can't possibly understand when you don't own it or drive it! __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

07-08-2009, 02:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
6SPD_FTW Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bristol, VA Posts: 59 Drives: 09 370Z Bl 6MT Rep Power: 17	While we're on the topic of checking oil and such, I have a question. Has anyone here ever observed some black residue coming off the dipstick whenever you pull the dipstick out and wipe it off the 1st time prior to checking the oil?? Everytime I check the oil, I wipe the dipstick off and noticed black residue (looks like powdered metal to me) on the dipstick. Its not carbon deposits and its not oil...it looks to me like metal stuck to the dipstick. If our dipsticks are magnetized, then that's fine...it's just iron particles and is normal. But if I go a longer span of time between checking the oil, there's a larger buildup of that stuff on the dipstick. Black/dark gray in color, it is. I have 7800 miles and the last oil change was at 4000mi. Engine runs great and I get 28mpg with conservative driving. No bizarre noises or anything else abnormal. I'm getting ready to switch over to synthetic oil. I ran the factory oil until 1500mi, then ran Mobil 5000 until 4000 mi, and currently have Castrol GTX in there. I think I'm gonna switch to Castrol Syntec 0W-30 in a few hundred miles. Either way....tell me what yall think bout that. Late, Trav

07-10-2009, 03:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
need4speed Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: tx Posts: 199 Drives: 08 altima 3.5se Rep Power: 17	Most of you with oil concerns obviously are either in your 1st "TRUE" Sports cars Or You don't realize that oil consumption differs from your standard 6000rpm redline cars And/or concerned about how many oil changes u may have to perform meaning cost???. My advice is switch to synthetic n don't mod your cars till u understand your vehicle fully. The VQ is not rushed. Its been in production since 2007 and had been in testing since 2005. In 4 months it will be in its 3rd model year. VQ engines are high performance motors occasionally retrofitted into normal cars. Not vice vera like many other cars but it is far from a lemon. As the engine breaks in you will see all the quirks disappear. Like all 1st year cars you will have to see the dealer for an issue here and there. But I guarantee it will mainly be in the computer where problems may lie. Not in the cars parts. Maintenance takes slightly more effort and certain aspects of the car will vary as this car is technogically unique to other sports cars. There are quirks, and sounds that are unique only to this engine. Lastly... even Ferrari has 1st year issues. Every company has 1st year quirks.

07-11-2009, 02:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 20	Everyone is gonna like the car they own more than cars they can only dream of or not own... in most cases, anyway. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

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