Why does first gear in every other car feel and seem faster than the Z?

marrim · 01-24-2012, 05:16 PM

I find that the Z has a issue of shifting between 1st and 2nd if not timed perfectly. My 6 speed manual accord had issuses from 2nd to 3rd. Each transmission has it quirks. Its just learning how to deal with it.

m4a1mustang · 01-24-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

geez... i was cutting 1.90 60's on stock 19s/tires, completely BALD, when my car was stock, on a 95 degree day, with the added neg camber from lowering without alignment!!@ pretty easy car to launch (at stock power) if you ask me!

You know how it is.

m4a1mustang · 01-24-2012, 05:24 PM

Anyways, since the problem at hand is beating an MS3 off the line, the only solution is to hit up the track and practice.

Z_Girl · 01-24-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE

Your Z will absolutely beat a MS3 off the line and all the way down the track... trust me

what is your launch RPM?

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

ALSO, since we know where this is taking place... anything can happen. You both need to get to the track and see what happens there.

keb370z · 01-24-2012, 08:04 PM

My husband would never drag race me on a track. He knows his precious Speed would lose, and he's not interested in proving it. And he's a big fan of the Z, too, so there's really no need. But I can't deny that when I drive his Speed, it just feels crazy fast. Almost hard to keep on the road fast.

But, let's go back a little. Forget about a launch.

Say you're on the track next to a brand new stock automatic Chevy Malibu. Say, rule is you can't touch the gas until the flag comes down. Theoretically, the Malibu driver is going to stomp that pedal and you hit the gas and let out the clutch. Even if you're really good, it's going to be him off the line first, easy, and then it will be neck and neck, probably him ahead, until you're in high RMPs in 2nd. Then you win.

That's what I'm saying.

FL 4Motion · 01-24-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keb370z

My husband would never drag race me on a track. He knows his precious Speed would lose, and he's not interested in proving it. And he's a big fan of the Z, too, so there's really no need. But I can't deny that when I drive his Speed, it just feels crazy fast. Almost hard to keep on the road fast.

But, let's go back a little. Forget about a launch.

Say you're on the track next to a brand new stock automatic Chevy Malibu. Say, rule is you can't touch the gas until the flag comes down. Theoretically, the Malibu driver is going to stomp that pedal and you hit the gas and let out the clutch. Even if you're really good, it's going to be him off the line first, easy, and then it will be neck and neck, probably him ahead, until you're in high RMPs in 2nd. Then you win.

That's what I'm saying.

In the race for fastest 0-6, prius owns all, jsut sayin.

m4a1mustang · 01-24-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

In the race for fastest 0-6, prius owns all, jsut sayin.

Truth.

Red__Zed · 01-24-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

In the race for fastest 0-6, prius owns all, jsut sayin.

m4a1mustang · 01-24-2012, 08:09 PM

Anyways, if someone gets the jump on you, then yeah, you're playing catch up.

However, if you're planning on getting a move on at launch your foot should be on the gas while you're sitting still.

Hold your launch RPM, prepare to slip the clutch and modulate throttle.

Skeeterbop · 01-24-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

In the race for fastest 0-6, prius owns all, jsut sayin.

I thought the Leaf pwns all. We've already seen a video of it beating the Z in a drag race

TopElement · 01-24-2012, 09:48 PM

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Nissan could have very well programmed the ecu to soften power delivery at low speeds or in first gear.
The car definitely lacks power at low rpm's on the street, but pulls good at 2000 rpm in fifth or sixth gear.

keb370z · 01-24-2012, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

...prepare to slip the clutch...

Not my baby!!!

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Originally Posted by TopElement

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Nissan could have very well programmed the ecu to soften power delivery at low speeds or in first gear.
The car definitely lacks power at low rpm's on the street, but pulls good at 2000 rpm in fifth or sixth gear.

m4a1mustang · 01-24-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by keb370z

Not my baby!!!

You've got to launch the car if you wanna go fast!

keb370z · 01-24-2012, 10:28 PM

And you know what people? I think m4a1mustang figured this whole thing out. I never slip the clutch. Ever. My entire life up until a few years ago was spent being poor and driving used cars with an almost used up clutch I was trying to squeeze as many miles out of as I could. So I have myself trained to never slip the clutch.

So. Guess I just need to slip the clutch more?

Not that it's going to happen. Just theoretically.

keb370z · 01-24-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

In the race for fastest 0-6, prius owns all, jsut sayin.

And we all know Prius beats us in the Style category, too, so let's just not go there.

01-24-2012, 05:24 PM	#33 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Anyways, since the problem at hand is beating an MS3 off the line, the only solution is to hit up the track and practice. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-24-2012, 08:09 PM	#39 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Anyways, if someone gets the jump on you, then yeah, you're playing catch up. However, if you're planning on getting a move on at launch your foot should be on the gas while you're sitting still. Hold your launch RPM, prepare to slip the clutch and modulate throttle. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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01-24-2012, 05:16 PM	#31 (permalink)
marrim Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 183 Drives: 2011 370z White Man Rep Power: 14	I find that the Z has a issue of shifting between 1st and 2nd if not timed perfectly. My 6 speed manual accord had issuses from 2nd to 3rd. Each transmission has it quirks. Its just learning how to deal with it.

01-24-2012, 08:04 PM	#35 (permalink)
keb370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 214 Drives: '11 M6 Sport in Blue Rep Power: 13	My husband would never drag race me on a track. He knows his precious Speed would lose, and he's not interested in proving it. And he's a big fan of the Z, too, so there's really no need. But I can't deny that when I drive his Speed, it just feels crazy fast. Almost hard to keep on the road fast. But, let's go back a little. Forget about a launch. Say you're on the track next to a brand new stock automatic Chevy Malibu. Say, rule is you can't touch the gas until the flag comes down. Theoretically, the Malibu driver is going to stomp that pedal and you hit the gas and let out the clutch. Even if you're really good, it's going to be him off the line first, easy, and then it will be neck and neck, probably him ahead, until you're in high RMPs in 2nd. Then you win. That's what I'm saying.

01-24-2012, 09:48 PM	#41 (permalink)
TopElement Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: So Cal Posts: 201 Drives: Nismo, STi, Max, M3 Rep Power: 13	One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that Nissan could have very well programmed the ecu to soften power delivery at low speeds or in first gear. The car definitely lacks power at low rpm's on the street, but pulls good at 2000 rpm in fifth or sixth gear.

01-24-2012, 10:28 PM	#44 (permalink)
keb370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 214 Drives: '11 M6 Sport in Blue Rep Power: 13	And you know what people? I think m4a1mustang figured this whole thing out. I never slip the clutch. Ever. My entire life up until a few years ago was spent being poor and driving used cars with an almost used up clutch I was trying to squeeze as many miles out of as I could. So I have myself trained to never slip the clutch. So. Guess I just need to slip the clutch more? Not that it's going to happen. Just theoretically.