KillerBee's been runnin on 2.5.... wtf?

tjlazer · 02-27-2012, 04:30 PM

No, you can switch. I think Mobile 1 is a great oil, but I would just get an Ester based oil like Redline. If you're going to do it, do it right.

wstar · 02-27-2012, 04:36 PM

Most of everything you and Mossy are talking about is just standard oil myths, don't sweat it. M1 EP is a very good synthetic, and any good synthetic is probably *better* for the car than the dino/ester mix in Nissan Ester oil. You can switch brands anytime you want. If you want to be anal about it, you can do a very short change interval when you first switch.

Personally, I run Motul 300V, and some others use Redline's Synthetic, both of which are also good synthetics and happen to contain significant ester content. I suspect the 300V formulation is a really ideal oil for our engine, but it comes with caveats: on top of being pricey per quart to begin with, it doesn't deal well with long change intervals and/or high humidity, making it even more expensive to use it properly (it's more hygroscopic than competitors, meaning it will suck humidity out of the air and ruin itself via acidification over time faster than competitors). It's totally not worth the $$ in general, especially on a street-mostly car, but I use it anyways.

Trips · 02-27-2012, 05:02 PM

Alright folks this thread was not to be discussing what oil is bad or good.

Lets keep it to the topic Killer had originally opened it for.

And if it can't be done? I'll just close it.

Thanks

wstar · 02-27-2012, 05:16 PM

Whether oil choice is a contributor to consumption is pretty on-topic IMHO :P I don't think it is, given a reasonably good quality synthetic oil, but it's certainly a valid thing to ask about.

Huan'z · 02-27-2012, 06:09 PM

Anyway will going to place a order from hyperfuel.com n they got special for feb. free shipping for all redline product. 137+tax per case equal of 12 quarts. Whoever need redline oil. Should take advantage of free shipping. That's good enough for me for next 3k miles or 3 months. Thanks to all the inputs guys!!

ryan0 · 02-28-2012, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar

Whether oil choice is a contributor to consumption is pretty on-topic IMHO :P I don't think it is, given a reasonably good quality synthetic oil, but it's certainly a valid thing to ask about.

switching to a thicker oil because your car has bad rings really isn't a solution, it will just make different problems.

do the consumption test by the book, then go get a new short block under warranty..

what i've heard... these motors had bad rings... 350 did, then they fixed it... 370 did, then they THINK they fixed it. any factory that has a TSB about engines eating oil and replaces blocks without argument, is pretty much admitting there is a problem.

Huan'z · 02-27-2012, 06:10 PM

Let's back to topic about bee's!!!

Ztoon · 02-27-2012, 06:48 PM

I ran on Mobil1 for the first year, and was burning 2 to 3 qts. between changes. No visible leaks on engine, and no spots on ground.
Switched to Nissans Ester the second year, and was exactly the same.
I did the TSB consumption test. It failed, and the dealer replaced the short block, and no issues with all my mods.
I've gone back to Mobil1. Completed the break-in period on the new block, did an oil change, and it hasn't lost a drop.

As there never was any visible signs of oil loss, I'm guessing the rings never seated properly with the first block, for whatever reason, and the oil likely burnt off and went out the tailpipe.
Seems this was mainly an issue with us guys anxious to get out in the first 370's in '09.

Synack · 02-27-2012, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ztoon

I ran on Mobil1 for the first year, and was burning 2 to 3 qts. between changes. No visible leaks on engine, and no spots on ground.
Switched to Nissans Ester the second year, and was exactly the same.
I did the TSB consumption test. It failed, and the dealer replaced the short block, and no issues with all my mods.
I've gone back to Mobil1. Completed the break-in period on the new block, did an oil change, and it hasn't lost a drop.

As there never was any visible signs of oil loss, I'm guessing the rings never seated properly with the first block, for whatever reason, and the oil likely burnt off and went out the tailpipe.
Seems this was mainly an issue with us guys anxious to get out in the first 370's in '09.

This sounds like the most sense I've heard all night!

sonic370 · 02-27-2012, 08:24 PM

I'm not a gear head no insult meant but imho our cars or at least the small percentage that is have these burning issues just doesn't sound right.......

iv'e got an 09 with 37,000 never has burned a drop as i knock on wood....
but i do still check it at every fillup........

does anyone know if the motors nissan puts in the v8 altima's and maxima's
which i think were the ones used in the 350's have this oil burning problem.
just wondering..

Red__Zed · 02-27-2012, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370

I'm not a gear head no insult meant but imho our cars or at least the small percentage that is have these burning issues just doesn't sound right.......

iv'e got an 09 with 37,000 never has burned a drop as i knock on wood....
but i do still check it at every fillup........

does anyone know if the motors nissan puts in the v8 altima's and maxima's
which i think were the ones used in the 350's have this oil burning problem.
just wondering..

the VQ has been notorious for burning oil since at least the DE

sonic370 · 02-27-2012, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

the VQ has been notorious for burning oil since at least the DE

makes one wonder how the VQ keeps winning award after award each year.

KillerBee370 · 02-27-2012, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370

makes one wonder how the VQ keeps winning award after award each year.

Because it's single handedly keeping us occupying the middle east and giving beuracrats something to do!

Red__Zed · 02-28-2012, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370

makes one wonder how the VQ keeps winning award after award each year.

They don't factor oil consumption into rankings....

Synack · 02-27-2012, 08:36 PM

I thought it all started with the 2006 VQ uprev.

02-27-2012, 04:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
tjlazer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tacoma Age: 54 Posts: 2,497 Drives: Z34, R35 Rep Power: 21	No, you can switch. I think Mobile 1 is a great oil, but I would just get an Ester based oil like Redline. If you're going to do it, do it right. __________________ 2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV

02-27-2012, 04:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3596	Most of everything you and Mossy are talking about is just standard oil myths, don't sweat it. M1 EP is a very good synthetic, and any good synthetic is probably better for the car than the dino/ester mix in Nissan Ester oil. You can switch brands anytime you want. If you want to be anal about it, you can do a very short change interval when you first switch. Personally, I run Motul 300V, and some others use Redline's Synthetic, both of which are also good synthetics and happen to contain significant ester content. I suspect the 300V formulation is a really ideal oil for our engine, but it comes with caveats: on top of being pricey per quart to begin with, it doesn't deal well with long change intervals and/or high humidity, making it even more expensive to use it properly (it's more hygroscopic than competitors, meaning it will suck humidity out of the air and ruin itself via acidification over time faster than competitors). It's totally not worth the $$ in general, especially on a street-mostly car, but I use it anyways. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details Last edited by wstar; 02-27-2012 at 04:38 PM. Reason: grammar-os

02-27-2012, 05:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,736 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	Alright folks this thread was not to be discussing what oil is bad or good. Lets keep it to the topic Killer had originally opened it for. And if it can't be done? I'll just close it. Thanks __________________

02-27-2012, 05:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3596	Whether oil choice is a contributor to consumption is pretty on-topic IMHO :P I don't think it is, given a reasonably good quality synthetic oil, but it's certainly a valid thing to ask about. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

02-27-2012, 06:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ztoon Track Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: B.C. Posts: 578 Drives: '09 370a7 Rep Power: 26	I ran on Mobil1 for the first year, and was burning 2 to 3 qts. between changes. No visible leaks on engine, and no spots on ground. Switched to Nissans Ester the second year, and was exactly the same. I did the TSB consumption test. It failed, and the dealer replaced the short block, and no issues with all my mods. I've gone back to Mobil1. Completed the break-in period on the new block, did an oil change, and it hasn't lost a drop. As there never was any visible signs of oil loss, I'm guessing the rings never seated properly with the first block, for whatever reason, and the oil likely burnt off and went out the tailpipe. Seems this was mainly an issue with us guys anxious to get out in the first 370's in '09. __________________ Stillen G3\|CBE\|ground kit, F.I. H.F.C., C.F. fangs\|mirrors\|pillars, Hotchkis, SSR Type-F, RE-11, UpRev, BC BR coilovers 15% tint, LED black hdlts, color match handles, Dynamat, tail lt. tint, Mines C.F. frt. lip\|rear spoiler, Amuse rear,skirts, vented fenders, c.f. vented hood, gloss blk. roof Last edited by Ztoon; 02-27-2012 at 06:55 PM.

02-27-2012, 06:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
Huan'z Track Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: houston,texas Posts: 641 Drives: black 370z 7/AT. Rep Power: 18	Anyway will going to place a order from hyperfuel.com n they got special for feb. free shipping for all redline product. 137+tax per case equal of 12 quarts. Whoever need redline oil. Should take advantage of free shipping. That's good enough for me for next 3k miles or 3 months. Thanks to all the inputs guys!!

02-27-2012, 06:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Huan'z Track Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: houston,texas Posts: 641 Drives: black 370z 7/AT. Rep Power: 18	Let's back to topic about bee's!!!

02-27-2012, 08:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 20	I'm not a gear head no insult meant but imho our cars or at least the small percentage that is have these burning issues just doesn't sound right....... iv'e got an 09 with 37,000 never has burned a drop as i knock on wood.... but i do still check it at every fillup........ does anyone know if the motors nissan puts in the v8 altima's and maxima's which i think were the ones used in the 350's have this oil burning problem. just wondering..

02-27-2012, 08:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
Synack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Houston Age: 38 Posts: 1,012 Drives: Sideways Rep Power: 18	I thought it all started with the 2006 VQ uprev. __________________ NO LONGER OWNS A 370 Turbo FR-S

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