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Dual clutch for the next Z

With so many dual/twin clutch transmissions out with much proven success, their popularity is growing fast. It would only make sense for Nissan to offer dual clutch AMT and traditional

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Old 05-29-2011, 12:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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With so many dual/twin clutch transmissions out with much proven success, their popularity is growing fast. It would only make sense for Nissan to offer dual clutch AMT and traditional MT. If so would you chose AMT over MT?

Launch control, split second shifts, less power loss between shifts, and all the other pluses to a dual clutch would be pretty cool. The only cons to it is the slight clankiness at lower speeds and less fun with shifting. Just my opinion.

Edit: I removed what I said about AT being a free option on the 370z, bc well, it's not. Was thinking of the wrong car..
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I'd still buy MT. The current 7AT is already faster at shifting. It's not really about speed to me. Rather it's about control and involvement. I feel that MT gives me more.
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I don't daily drive my Z and I find the MT to be more fun. Whether or not it's faster doesn't really concern me. I enjoy rowing the gears.
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MT keeps you honest. Plus less things to worry about tearing up. Next thing people will want is voice controled windows.
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MT for me too.
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While a dual clutch AT would be interesting, I'll always be in for the MT. MT FTW!!
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I've always been a MT guy. I got the 7AT and have mixed feelings. If I didn't have my S2000 there would probably be regret. Oh, and I ride motorcycles too so I get plenty of chances to row gears.

I daily both the Z and the S2000. The Z is a lot more relaxing in a commute (or road trip, shopping mall) situation. When I put the Z into manual mode it shifts pretty quick and I get back to that intimate interaction with the car. Is it just like a MT? Well, no. However, all around it's a tough combo to beat. If they offered dual clutch I would probably get it. However, I think for a slushbox the 7AT is amazing and a dual clutch is probably not needed.

What do you mean they offered the 7AT as a free option?
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I actually wouldn't mind an auto z in my future, as long as I had a 'real' car for harder driving.
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Actually if you look at Nissan's website, the 7AT is a $1300 option. I love my 7AT and I think its an amaxig automatic transmission. A dual clutch would be amazing for the next Z. Nissan already has a great one in the GT-R so it shouldn't btoo hard to put it into the next Z. It would help the Z keep up with some of its competitors.
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I don't see Nissan offering a dual clutch for the next z because as you pointed out, the noise, and extra maintenance required. Most people who have autos now would not be used to the noise. Nissan would have to get rid of the auto in order to offer the dual clutch for the g, fx, ex, m, and z to make financial sense. The z won't be the only car to have the dual clutch.
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Id get DCT.
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nissan's current solution for AT is CVT...

i guess perfect for those who cant drive MT cause of the slipping clutch-ish sound the cvt makes.
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I daily both the Z and the S2000.
Correction. You EVERY OTHER daily your Z and S2000 .
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This is pointless. Guys who buy MT will buy MT and AT guys will buy AT...
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