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Westwood 05-07-2011 09:19 PM

WORST DAY!!!! Possible engine blown???!!!!
 
Worst facking days guys!!! i was cruzin on the freeway (not racing) and all of a sudden i hear a SCARY sound like lifters staring to knock or something so i slow down to listen if its serious and all of a sudden i hear a crazy sound like something snapped under the hood and it died, the engine stopped and all the warning lights went on... i was lucky i had enough speed to move to the side of the road. Now my Z wont start and there is no visual sing of something broken, belts etc... So its definitely internal. It was running perfectly yesterday. :confused: the thing that stresses me the fack out is my minor mods/bolt ons i have im scared they'll say my warranty wont cover it. and my car is at Nissan i got it towed there.

The only thing i did 2 days ago is add a paint of Royal Purple synth cuz i was low on oil a bit.

p.s. the 2x4 was to get my Z on the bed lol looks like a murder scene or something.

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Updated!!! the engine is dead...

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Red__Zed 05-07-2011 09:22 PM

hope everything turns out OK man.

Is that fluid from your car?

SPOHN 05-07-2011 09:24 PM

That baby might have a hole in the block. I wouldn't see why the mods would void the warrenty in this case. In for results. Do you have a oil cooler that might of came loose and cause to leak? Could be several things. How many miles?

Red__Zed 05-07-2011 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1096296)
looks like oil.

looks really thin, but it's hard to tell from pictures.

Westwood 05-07-2011 09:25 PM

11,200 miles and its engine oil from my car you see.

Red__Zed 05-07-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Westwood (Post 1096301)
11,200 miles and its engine oil from my car you see.

yeah, ouch.

SPOHN 05-07-2011 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1096299)
looks really thin, but it's hard to tell from pictures.

Where did my post go? Oh well.

Hope you can get some pics from under the car? If it's on the bottom end I'm leaning towards a rod bearing.

Westwood 05-07-2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1096312)
Where did my post go? Oh well.

Hope you can get some pics from under the car? If it's on the bottom end I'm leaning towards a rod bearing.

Yeah thats what i think cuz at first it sounded light like a lifter and all of a sudden it was really knocking and i didn't even have time to get on the side of the road it snapped hard!

Westwood 05-07-2011 09:32 PM

So if its a rod they'll do a rebuilt or give me a used engine???

SPOHN 05-07-2011 09:34 PM

No reason you shouldn't get a brand new shortblock.

Westwood 05-07-2011 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1096323)
No reason you shouldn't get a brand new shortblock.

I wish man!!! fingers crossed

Lemers 05-07-2011 09:37 PM

Wow hope nothing major. Let us know what Nissan says.

tonybui 05-07-2011 09:45 PM

Holyshit, 11,200 miles?

Good luck with everything man !!!

Staples 05-07-2011 09:49 PM

I don't think your car would have leaned out that bad from your mods. I've seen the Stillen G3s cause the car to lean a little, but not enough to warrant detonation, at least not to the point of the engine going kaboom.

Were you able to look under the car at all? It could be a hole in the block, oil pan, or your oil filter came loose from not correctly tightening. You also said you were low on oil, did you do your own oil change and use a new copper gasket and make sure the drain plug was properly tightened?

Good luck.

Westwood 05-08-2011 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Staples (Post 1096358)
I don't think your car would have leaned out that bad from your mods. I've seen the Stillen G3s cause the car to lean a little, but not enough to warrant detonation, at least not to the point of the engine going kaboom.

Were you able to look under the car at all? It could be a hole in the block, oil pan, or your oil filter came loose from not correctly tightening. You also said you were low on oil, did you do your own oil change and use a new copper gasket and make sure the drain plug was properly tightened?

Good luck.

I didn't look under my Z, and my driveway is dry not one spot of oil nada! and i get my Z serviced at my Nissan dealer and they know i take good care of my baby. really weird

Westwood 05-08-2011 12:22 AM

ill do an update monday with pics on the lift if they let me in the garage.

CrownR426 05-08-2011 12:29 AM

Damn, is this under warranty?
I know most dealer's would void it. lol
That sucks if you have to pay out of your own pockets...
Sorry to hear this, I know how it feels.

B.A.Q 05-08-2011 02:47 AM

don't worry man it should be covered

from what you wrote in your signature nothing should drops the warranty

adampetrasek 05-08-2011 03:51 AM

I am so sorry to see this, and at such low miles!!! But as awful as it sounds, i love the photo and reference to a murder scene.... Victim on the stretcher, lifeblood strewn across the road, what looks like a possible weapon laying a few feet away. Very creative shot in such a horrible moment. I hope Nissan takes care of you!

JTTZR 05-08-2011 04:16 AM

Good luck, buddy. Might not be as bad as it looks. Even if it is I don;t believe Nissan will get away with putting the blame on you.

Keeping my fingers x'd for you.

m4a1mustang 05-08-2011 07:13 AM

Good luck with the warranty service, man. Hopefully they won't hassle you.

Lemers 05-08-2011 07:35 AM

There's always a bright side. If You engine is dead and Nissan won't pay, then you can go for an engine swap. Put the most powerful engine at will fit in you car

W.O.W. 370Z 05-08-2011 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Westwood (Post 1096285)

The only thing i did 2 days ago is add a paint of Royal Purple synth cuz i was low on oil a bit.

This might prove key to determining what the hell happened.

Keep us updated.

Red__Zed 05-08-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 1096592)
Damn, is this under warranty?
I know most dealer's would void it. lol
That sucks if you have to pay out of your own pockets...
Sorry to hear this, I know how it feels.

I don't think most dealers would refuse service for bolt ons.

fairladyZ34 05-08-2011 09:16 AM

I hope everything works out for you bro, sucks to have stuff like this happen

Mike 05-08-2011 10:00 AM

good luck man, sorry to see it.

flashburn 05-08-2011 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1096743)
There's always a bright side. If You engine is dead and Nissan won't pay, then you can go for an engine swap. Put the most powerful engine at will fit in you car

Yeah, because it's just that easy to swap engines in our car. :ugh2:

Lemers 05-08-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1096862)
Yeah, because it's just that easy to swap engines in our car. :ugh2:

I'm sure it can be done

esfourteen 05-08-2011 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1096865)
I'm sure it can be done

with enough time and money any engine could go in there sure. I think his point was it's not very realistic...

V8Killer 05-08-2011 10:29 AM

You need to research the laws in Canada to see what law protects you as a consumer. There is one here in the U.S. I can't think of the name as of right now, but it is to protect the consumer in a situation of this sort. In any case where modifications are put on a vehicle and there is a malfunction of any sort the dealership can not blame it on said added parts. i.e. installing an after market exhaust then all of a sudden you have electrical problems. The two are not connected but some dealers like to push the unknowing consumer around and say your warranty is voided b/c of the mod. If you are that worried about it I would remove said parts and put the factory parts back on.
Also included in this act the company must prove that which exact part did what damage. I haven't had something this severe happen and hopefully I won't but I'm sure like most people here they have had their disputes with Nissan. Keep your head up and you will get a new engine. Worst case scenario if they can salvage your engine they will which isn't a bad thing either.

jran76 05-08-2011 10:29 AM

I think it is pretty safe to say you have some serious damage to the bottom end with the oil coming out like that. I can't see if being something simple.

My concern would be the pulley, and I would have personally removed it before towing the car in (although it sounds like your dealer has probably seen it before). Not a big fan of pulleys due to the fact that they don't produce much power, and it is one mod that is directly connected to the engine that gives the dealers an excuse to not cover the engine if something lets go. From a strictly legal standpoint, it is tough to argue that a breathing mod caused engine damage unless they can somehow show that it caused detonation. I don't think they need evidence like that with the pulley. They could argue the pulley affected anything from the crank, rods, pistons, bearings, etc. In this case, it comes down to what kind of dealer you have. I know one G sedan owner that a dealer refused engine warranty due to a non-OEM pulley.

Lemers 05-08-2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 1096881)
with enough time and money any engine could go in there sure. I think his point was it's not very realistic...

If his engine is a total loss and warranty won't cover it. Then his already in for a lot of time and money. I was just giving him a "outside the box" idea. Y'all shouldn't be afraid to try new things.

I bet nobody though a corvette engine would fit in a 350 until it was done.

jran76 05-08-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 1096883)
You need to research the laws in Canada to see what law protects you as a consumer. There is one here in the U.S. I can't think of the name as of right now, but it is to protect the consumer in a situation of this sort. In any case where modifications are put on a vehicle and there is a malfunction of any sort the dealership can not blame it on said added parts. i.e. installing an after market exhaust then all of a sudden you have electrical problems. The two are not connected but some dealers like to push the unknowing consumer around and say your warranty is voided b/c of the mod. If you are that worried about it I would remove said parts and put the factory parts back on.
Also included in this act the company must prove that which exact part did what damage. I haven't had something this severe happen and hopefully I won't but I'm sure like most people here they have had their disputes with Nissan. Keep your head up and you will get a new engine. Worst case scenario if they can salvage your engine they will which isn't a bad thing either.

That would be the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act in the US. I did not realize the OP was from Canada, and I am not sure what their laws are.... I know in the US, the MM Warranty Act does protect consumers to some degree (although still a PITA in many cases), but with the crank pulley it would likely be a long losing battle if the dealership really wants to be an a$$.... My experience is that breathing mods you can get away with most of the time, but things that directly affect the mechanics of the engine are a roll of the dice.

Magnuson?Moss Warranty Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

RockStarKick 05-08-2011 10:36 AM

Never putting Royal Purple in my car !!!!! :stirthepot:

Red__Zed 05-08-2011 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1096887)
If his engine is a total loss and warranty won't cover it. Then his already in for a lot of time and money. I was just giving him a "outside the box" idea. Y'all shouldn't be afraid to try new things.

I bet nobody though a corvette engine would fit in a 350 until it was done.

Install time would be at least 2x install of a factory engine, and swaps never work 100%.

Zat_Zuma 05-08-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RockStarKick (Post 1096889)
Never putting Royal Purple in my car !!!!! :stirthepot:

:iagree:

V8Killer 05-08-2011 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockStarKick (Post 1096889)
Never putting Royal Purple in my car !!!!! :stirthepot:

Hey now don't knock on RP it's been good to my baby. :happydance:

Kastley85891 05-08-2011 10:43 AM

wow, suckage

hide187 05-08-2011 10:47 AM

Bonkers!! This makes my head hurt.

jran76 05-08-2011 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 1096895)
Hey now don't knock on RP it's been good to my baby. :happydance:

From oil analysis samples on the VQ35DE, it performed pretty badly compared to most other oils. I don't see any real data for the VQ37VHR, but I don't think I would use it based on the way it performed on other VQ motors. With that said, it is a quality motor oil, and it is not going to make a difference for a long time. It definitely won't cause major problems like the OP is reporting unless improperly used.


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